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Ethnic groups and psychedelics * 1
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I'll just start of with that I have very few friends that do drugs and if I hang out with other people alcohol is the only drug being consumed.

When I watch videos about psychedelics it's dominated by white people, now I'm not saying that this is something negative I just find it interesting. It's particularly interesting since, especially shrooms, were used by shamans and different tribes in the first place.

On the other hand I might be completely off with my assumption. Do you have any inputs? If I'm wrong please debunk, if you agree do you have any idea why this is the case?

Have a good morning/day/night :pipesmoke:
Ethnic groups
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 10/10/18 04:16 PM until the end of time
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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: hejAdig999] * 1
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Racist


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: hejAdig999]
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I'll just start of with that I have very few friends. Those friends are very close though, and don't do drugs but do drink.

For other people I hang out with, such as work colleagues in a social environment, some I know do drugs but most I don't know either way. I know people of all ethnic groups.

I bet there's 100's of people that we know or know of but are not particularly close to that do use some recreational drugs but understandably don't open up to people they aren't close to about it, and the same goes for most of us I suspect. This stance of playing our cards close to our chest so to speak will I imagine and hope will become less prevalent as use of certain substances becomes more accepted, mainstream and eventually de-criminalised.

Anyway, I digress. I've not done any research on the matter surrounding drug use by ethnicity but I'll bet someone has. 'Drug use' is a very broad term as well, are you including the whole spectrum in that such as opioid addiction, occasional marijuana use, misuse of prescription drugs etc?

I imagine religion amongst ethnic groups comes into play quite a bit with the majority of religions having a firm stance on the matter.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: The Other Guy]
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I don't understand the question. I'm white, but I have or have had friends of each of those races who used psychedelics. Do I select white because I'm white or...?

This poll wouldn't so much answer the question of what ethnicities do psychedelics so much as what ethnicities participate on this forum.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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I agree with Krypto that the poll is kinda pointless.
However I love the topic. I hadn't thought about this much, but now that you bring it to my attention. YES! hallucinogens definitely seem to be a predominantly white thing at least in the US. I do know black people who trip, but not many. IDK if I could count the number of white people I know that trip.I can only think of one or two hispanic people and they are hispanics who mostly hang out with white people. same with the few black dudes.

I'm not too surprised with how black culture is in the US that not a ton of black people trip. That's not meant to be offensive, not sure how it would be even, but black people don't seem to have much interest in shrooms and LSD, especially shrooms though. IDK about other races/cultures. I don't think a ton of asians or Hispanics are tripping, but maybe I just haven't socialized with them enough to find out.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: GrowinDaMushies]
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I think you are watching stuff different from me.

If you watch the VICE series 5/6 of those episodes were people of color. Salvia, ayawaska, and the early mushrooms were all known to Central and South American people. Peyote was Native American.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: tathlyn]
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If you are white and do not mostly hang out with black people how could you really judge their demographic? You go to a concert or festival to meet strangers yet those strangers are not totally strange, they share common interests that brought you together outside of the drugs you use. Maybe black people do like to trip but within other circles than white people?

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
If you are white and do not mostly hang out with black people how could you really judge their demographic? You go to a concert or festival to meet strangers yet those strangers are not totally strange, they share common interests that brought you together outside of the drugs you use. Maybe black people do like to trip but within other circles than white people?



IDK man!
That's why this thread excites me. Maybe I have been missing out on a huge portion of tripping. Think about it. If I'm going to concerts and shit and it's just a bunch of white people tripping, but other cultures/races trip just as much than what is their equivalent of a concert? or maybe that's stupid, but the general curiosity remains. How are these cultures/races tripping because in my experience if they are tripping as much, then they are doing it in a different way, they aren't doing it with all the white people. So where and how are they doing it?

@tathlyn, maybe we are watching different documentaries on vice, but a lot of those docs are in south america and stuff. Obviously the rest of the world is the majority of the world, but us Americans tend to get focused on ourselves.

Edited by GrowinDaMushies (10/10/18 07:51 PM)

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: GrowinDaMushies]
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No, that's a great question.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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My observation has been that nowadays, everyone does everything pretty much.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Happinessfeeling]
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Well looking at the current numbers is pretty representative of the racial distribution of the USA. It's dominatly white guys just because the people in Western countries who post here live in places that are majority white.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: UncleTedsCabin]
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Yeah I realize that the poll is kind of pointless but I like polls haha. It could just be that white people are more open with their use and share their experiences more.

This image came mostly from social media which can be extremely misleading. But I agree with UncleTeds, it's probably because I only consume English media. As tallyn wrote colored people are featured in a lot of psychedelics documentaries


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: hejAdig999]
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Vast majority of mush cult is caucasian.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: GrowinDaMushies] * 1
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I feel like this poll is kind of valid I would assume most of the shroomery is white and most of the people who use psychedelics are white. Hence why most of the members here are white. Of course all types of people use psychedelics but I think White's use them more than the rest. I feel like other drug groups like marijuana or alcohol or opiates would have a more ethnically diverse fanbase


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: stuckinwonderland]
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See table 1 in this paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747247/#!po=33.0645

Whites do use psychedelics at a higher rate than any other ethnicity with exception of native americans. Oh that entheogenic church :wink:


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Inflaton]
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It is also interesting that higher education and higher income people also have higher psychedelic usage rates than lower education or income.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Inflaton]
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Inflaton said:
It is also interesting that higher education and higher income people also have higher psychedelic usage rates than lower education or income.




That might be because that's all that's available to us. I dont get piss tested for shrooms like I do for weed or coke.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: RomeoPapa]
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People who use psychedelics tend to be more mentally stable and more intelligent than those who do not, there's a study that actually showed this.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
People who use psychedelics tend to be more mentally stable and more intelligent than those who do not, there's a study that actually showed this.



Strange, LSD induced psychosis in me the two times I used it, and smoking salvia divinorum leaves made me permanently deranged.
I'm naturally intelligent and mentally stable, and strong psychedelics simply ruined my equilibrium, made me anxious, and gave me panic attacks and paranoia.
I don't think that you can make such concrete statements based on a study that was done with a random group of people.
Everyone is different, and to make such general statements as "psychedelic users are more mentally stable and intelligent than those who do not use psychedelics" demonstrates a personal bias, and the statement itself is flat-out incorrect.


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Edited by Happinessfeeling (10/11/18 08:18 AM)

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: hejAdig999] * 3
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considering this as a serious question indicates a racist meme infects you.


please try a salvia enema.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Happinessfeeling] * 1
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Happinessfeeling said:
krypto2000 said:
People who use psychedelics tend to be more mentally stable and more intelligent than those who do not, there's a study that actually showed this.



Strange, LSD induced psychosis in me the two times I used it, and smoking salvia divinorum leaves made me permanently deranged.
I'm naturally intelligent and mentally stable, and strong psychedelics simply ruined my equilibrium, made me anxious, and gave me panic attacks and paranoia.
I don't think that you can make such concrete statements based on a study that was done with a random group of people.
Everyone is different, and to make such general statements as "psychedelic users are more mentally stable and intelligent than those who do not use psychedelics" demonstrates a personal bias, and the statement itself is flat-out incorrect.



This discusses, and links to, the study in question. 135,095 people is quite a sample size, I think it's fair to extrapolate from it. Also you must consider the numerous other studies that looked for yet cannot find any actual mental illnesses associated with psychedelic users in general.

With that said I too have had what you may consider psychotic breaks from psychedelics. I've been hospitalized for it even, yet I still stand by this assessment. The largest psychological break lasted about 2 months (although only 1.5 weeks of such was negative).

When all is said and done though that was a passing experience, I learned from it, and am more mentally sound than ever; what I took away and integrated into myself was by and large positive. I am not psychotic, I experienced psychosis and as a result I am more stable day to day than had I not. I can still go back to that place, I often do intentionally so, but it's no longer a negative. I kind of view it as a mental exercise.

It's like weight training. You can overexert yourself and pull a muscle, and that is a good reason to take a break so that you can heal, but it doesn't mean weight training is unhealthy. It doesn't mean weight training makes one pull muscles, nor does it mean you would be stronger if you did not weight train. It simply means that with additional ability comes additional room for mistakes. By and large however no one would dispute that because you can overexert yourself and cause damage that people who lift weights are not stronger than those who do not. Be mindful, pay attention, and do not overextend yourself either in mind or body and you will grow.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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Thanks for sharing your personal account kryptos.
I appreciate it very much.
I have gained many benefits from some psychedelic use, although what I was trying to say I guess is that overall, in my reckless and unguided use, along with being very young, I might have caused more damage to myself than help.
Cheers.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Happinessfeeling]
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Typical LSD user is a young, educated white male. In my experience, this is more so a cultural thing. People I know who are into the hip-hop scene (white or black) seem afraid of psychedelics but are fine with Percs or xans. One of my friends once said to me, “Oh, so you’re on them white people drugs!”

To comment on the paralleling conversation, psychedelics have made me a better, more stable and integrated person, hands down. Some people can be destabilized by them. I’d imagine certain mental health issues will be amplified (though they’ve worked wonders for my depression). I think they can be more problematic for ppl with a tendency toward psychosis. But then again, this isn’t likely always the case.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CountHTML]
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lsd is not the only psychedelic.
you use what is available, cannabis is psychedelic with a gentle narcosis, or pain relief, nothing to skoff at.


this is more about cultural residue (availability) than an ethnic preference. i.e. it is not in DNA. more territorial.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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Spiritual realms do not subscribe to the material worlds' ethnic differences. A true shroomer knows this.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CatLicker]
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Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CatLicker]
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CatLicker said:
Spiritual realms do not subscribe to the material worlds' ethnic differences. A true shroomer knows this.



Sure, but people asking questions do.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM



I would have liked your high school :lol:


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM



Acid is for people who are not naturally psychedelic, and are rather somewhat stupid and dull, who need to take this stuff to open their eyes to what is already obvious to most people.
So according to you, anyone who enjoys drinking alcohol is a dumbass?
LOL, you are being ignorant and generalizing.
Also, some of the smartest people I've ever known used angel dust and meth, so again you are wrong here.
"Everyone likes weed."
What's your point?
This is one of the stupidest posts I've read in a long time.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM



I actually loved speed and learned about moderation after a scare, so this prejudice lacks Velcro for me. (but I believed it in junior high school)


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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Not calling you a "stupid fuck," but do you think anyone would actually self identify as such?

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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LOL
Now I'm feeling like Inflation. Humor challenged, are we? Do I have to flag a smart-ass goof as a smart-ass goof?

To quote Foghorn Leghorn:
"That's a joke, son. I say,  that's a joke...."

JWM

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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Some people need to learn to laugh a bit.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CountHTML]
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many people are offended when meth gets the bad rap.

the drug is not really that bad in itself, but the people who have been deeply touched by it have really been touched to the bone.

strychnine, well, there is your extreme ethnic indicator if you need one, strychnine users usually pee on their feet while running to the river.


stay way from dat one fer sure.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
considering this as a serious question indicates a racist meme infects you.


please try a salvia enema.



LMAO, what??? seriously, what?

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