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Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going
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I had my temp set too low originally, so I tried to correct and overcorrected a bit as you can see in the pic, but it still seems to be going OK.  I am not actually sure when the proper time to start harvesting is, or if some of these are growing a bit too fast/improperly/whatever.  Just looking for opinions since it's my first time.  Thanks.  (Strain is B+ btw)


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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Room temp is fine, fuzzy feet means you need more FAE

Those are some big guys though.


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Novice mycologist, my first inoculation was 8/1/18.

Edited by Bearded Irishman (09/21/18 05:36 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Bearded Irishman]
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:whathesaid:

Shotgun chamber needs holes for FAE..But good work getting this far:thumbup: Harvest just before the veil breaks ideally


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"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Bearded Irishman]
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Bearded Irishman said:
Room temp is fine, fuzzy feet means you need more FAE

Those are some big guys though.


I have an air pump on a mechanical timer going for 2 hours every day (noon-1 and 12am-1am); should I increase that and if so how much would you recommend?

I'm going to assume that big is good in this case :x

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Shroomspective said:
:whathesaid:

Shotgun chamber needs holes for FAE..But good work getting this far:thumbup: Harvest just before the veil breaks ideally


Can't see it in the pic (it's off to the left a little bit) but there is an air pump setup to go for 2 hours a day.  I'll just up it to a couple more hours I suppose.  Is there some obvious indication of when the veil might break??  I've been reading that's when you harvest but tbh I'm not 100% sure what that means exactly

Edited by travisscott (09/21/18 05:43 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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travisscott said:
Bearded Irishman said:
Room temp is fine, fuzzy feet means you need more FAE

Those are some big guys though.


I have an air pump on a mechanical timer going for 2 hours every day (noon-1 and 12am-1am); should I increase that and if so how much would you recommend?

I'm going to assume that big is good in this case :x


Those fruits are looking great! You could try inverting your lid or adding holes to the box. I only use an air pump in a glass of water to increase RH, but even then you have to worry about bacteria growing.


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Bearded Irishman]
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If you have a proper SGFC with 1/4" holes evenly spaced every 2 inches, and 4 inches of perlite that has been well soaked, then you don't need the pumps etc..Just a daily mist to get evaporation going and promote pinning:thumbup:


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"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Shroomspective]
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Bearded Irishman said:
travisscott said:
Bearded Irishman said:
Room temp is fine, fuzzy feet means you need more FAE

Those are some big guys though.


I have an air pump on a mechanical timer going for 2 hours every day (noon-1 and 12am-1am); should I increase that and if so how much would you recommend?

I'm going to assume that big is good in this case :x


Those fruits are looking great! You could try inverting your lid or adding holes to the box. I only use an air pump in a glass of water to increase RH, but even then you have to worry about bacteria growing.


I'll try inverting the lid, the idea of cutting a bunch of holes in there and jostling the shit out of the cakes makes me nervous for whatever reason, even though these are clearly some hardy boys to survive my noob ass.  Thanks!!


Shroomspective said:
If you have a proper SGFC with 1/4" holes evenly spaced every 2 inches, and 4 inches of perlite that has been well soaked, then you don't need the pumps etc..Just a daily mist to get evaporation going and promote pinning:thumbup:


Yeah I figured that just the pump would be enough.  I'll try out what BI was saying and see what's up

Thanks guys :laugh:

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Shroomspective]
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer but those fruits do NOT look great..  they're so long and skinny because they're suffocating. 

More FAE will give you meatier fruits and most likely and even better yield.

Still, kudos for growing some shrooms!


You really should convert that tub all the way into a Shot Gun Fruiting Chamber.  Look up a tek on this forum via the search bar.  If I were you, I would get to work on that asap.  Just take the cakes out while you modify the tub. Theyll be fine for an hour or 2 out of the chamber.

Also, ditch the hygrometer.  Even the expensive ones are  inaccurate when it comes to surface humidity and they will cause a lot more problems than they will help.  If you dont have the heart to ditch it then just remember it's never correct. Mist and fan according to the conditions on the surface of the cake.

BLiNK


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All my pictures are drawn from imagination.  I don't even know what a mushroom is.

Edited by BLINKfan420 (09/21/18 06:01 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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Also... what are you guys talking about.. inverting the lid on an SGFC??? That is NOT common practice and I wouldn't recommend it.  That is for unmodified monotubs (which this is not). SGFCs work in a completely different way.

Drill quarter inch holes evenly on all six sides (lid included) add some more hydrated perlite (3 - 4 inches) and elevate the tub by the corners 4 inches off what its sitting on so air can flow beneath it.  Then mist and fan as needed (maybe twice a dat)

BLiNK


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All my pictures are drawn from imagination.  I don't even know what a mushroom is.

Edited by BLINKfan420 (09/21/18 06:03 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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:whathesaid:

The Tek is linked in my sig :thumbup:


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"How it should & shouldn't look "      "Recognizing contamination"      "Rye Berry Prep"      "Franks G2G"      "Humidity Chamber"      "Agar Recipes"

"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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BLINKfan420 said:
I hate to be the Debbie Downer but those fruits do NOT look great..  they're so long and skinny because they're suffocating. 

More FAE will give you meatier fruits and most likely and even better yield.

Still, kudos for growing some shrooms!


You really should convert that tub all the way into a Shot Gun Fruiting Chamber.  Look up a tek on this forum via the search bar.  If I were you, I would get to work on that asap.  Just take the cakes out while you modify the tub. Theyll be fine for an hour or 2 out of the chamber.

Also, ditch the hygrometer.  Even the expensive ones are  inaccurate when it comes to surface humidity and they will cause a lot more problems than they will help.  If you dont have the heart to ditch it then just remember it's never correct. Mist and fan according to the conditions on the surface of the cake.

BLiNK


BLINKfan420 said:
Also... what are you guys talking about.. inverting the lid on an SGFC??? That is NOT common practice and I wouldn't recommend it.  That is for unmodified monotubs.  SGFCs work in a completely different way.

Drill those quarter inch holes evenly on all six sides (lid included) add some more hydrated perlite and elevate the tub by the corners 4 inches off what its sitting on.  Then mist and fan as needed (maybe twice a dat)

BLiNK


Thanks, this is the stuff I wanted to hear.  I knew I couldn't be that lucky to not fuck up something somehow :p

question: after converting the SGFC will the next flush come out better, or is it a bit irreversible at this point?

Edited by travisscott (09/21/18 06:04 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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I had some major typos.  I went and corrected them so hopefully that makes just about perfect sense now.

And I forgot to mention, air pumps have been outdated in this hobby since circa 2008.  With a properly built SGFC you won't need the pump. Physics does all the work.  You'll just need to rehydrate the perlite in the tub every 2 - 3 weeks.  You can do that by taking it outside and drenching it with a hose or I like to put the whole tub in my shower for 15 min. :rofl:



BLiNK


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All my pictures are drawn from imagination.  I don't even know what a mushroom is.

Edited by BLINKfan420 (09/21/18 06:07 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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BLINKfan420 said:
I had some major typos.  I went and corrected them so hopefully that makes just about perfect sense now.

And I forgot to mention, air pumps have been outdated in this hobby since circa 2008.  With a properly built SGFC you won't need the pump. Physics does all the work.  You'll just need to rehydrate the perlite in the tub every 2 - 3 weeks.  You can do that by taking it outside and drenching it with a hose or I like to put the whole tub in my shower for 15 min. :rofl:



BLiNK


This is all good info man, thanks.  I made an edit earlier but I imagine you didnt see it; but will the second flush go better after converting the SGFC?  Or is it the mycelium itself that's deprived of o2 at this point?

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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Thanks, this is the stuff I wanted to hear.  I knew I couldn't be that lucky to not fuck up something somehow :p

question: after converting the SGFC will the next flush come out better, or is it a bit irreversible at this point?


If this is your first attempt you've done better than probably 99% of first grows in not getting infected and producing a block of green mold..:thumbup:

For PF Tek once you have finished the first flush you'll need to soak your cakes again, completely submerged, to re-hydrate them. I used t put mine in a bowl with a weight over them to hold it down and then put in the fridge for a day or so, then back into the chamber. You might get 3 or 4 flushes before mould sets in doing that


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"How it should & shouldn't look "      "Recognizing contamination"      "Rye Berry Prep"      "Franks G2G"      "Humidity Chamber"      "Agar Recipes"

"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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Oh.. and this is a broken veil and an intact veil..



Harvest as the veil breaks away or as soon as possible afterwards.

BLiNK


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All my pictures are drawn from imagination.  I don't even know what a mushroom is.

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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This is all good info man, thanks.  I made an edit earlier but I imagine you didnt see it; but will the second flush go better after converting the SGFC?  Or is it the mycelium itself that's deprived of o2 at this point?


The second flush could potentially be better since your fruiting conditions will be better.  But the cakes has already put out its first flush and second and third flushes seem to have less fruits but bigger in size.

Either way a proper SGFC will be an improvement over a hybrid pump set up.

BLiNK

Edited by BLINKfan420 (09/21/18 06:18 PM)

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: BLINKfan420]
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Thanks again my dudes.  I just went out and got a 1/4" drill bit and am about to go to town :rocket:

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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Great work! Just make sure you don't press too hard with the drill, else you'll end up with cracks rather than holes:thumbup: I seem to remember I drilled mine from the inside where I could, so I could have it rest on some wood underneath and reduce the pressure on the plastic


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"How it should & shouldn't look "      "Recognizing contamination"      "Rye Berry Prep"      "Franks G2G"      "Humidity Chamber"      "Agar Recipes"

"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: Shroomspective]
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Just checking in to say I harvested 'em today (they actually perked up really nicely literally the night after I switched to SGFC) and ended up with about 25g dry from the first flush.  Not complaining considering I think I fucked up really bad - I noticed when I went to convert to SGFC that the hose from the air pump had fallen out, and I have no idea how long it'd been like that, so there was probably very, very, very little FAE going on :thumbdown:

Hoping it didn't do anything irreversible for the 2nd/3rd flushes, but I've got the cakes dunkin' right now

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Re: Noob here checking in to see how you guys think my fruiting is going [Re: travisscott]
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Nice work...25g of shrooms you didn't have before:cool:


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"How to dial in your monotubs like a Boss"      "Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek"      "Elementary [Damion5050]Coir Tek"        "SGFC"      "SAB Tek"      "Easy AF Shoeboxes"


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