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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: Tweedledee]
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I use my coolmist for fae do the intake is outside the gh and it runs 24/7, thos alone gets me over 60 % rh snd over 75 once my subs are in.

I then turn on the ultrasonic...this is my muster do i time how long it takes to get the chamber up to 92ish rh, say 10 to 15 minutes this slso puts nice beads of moisture in my subs.

I then time his long it takes for those beads of moisture to evaporate, sometimes this can be say 2 hours.

So now i know i want yo set my timers up so my ultrasonic comes on for 15 minutes every two hours.


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
I use my coolmist for fae do the intake is outside the gh and it runs 24/7, thos alone gets me over 60 % rh snd over 75 once my subs are in.

I then turn on the ultrasonic...this is my muster do i time how long it takes to get the chamber up to 92ish rh, say 10 to 15 minutes this slso puts nice beads of moisture in my subs.

I then time his long it takes for those beads of moisture to evaporate, sometimes this can be say 2 hours.

So now i know i want yo set my timers up so my ultrasonic comes on for 15 minutes every two hours.


When I first did my greenhouse I had the ultrasonic on a timer, every 1 hour on for 15 minutes. The surface on my substrate looked like this:

ComebackKid said:
It's benificial for the pinset to have beads of moisture on the sub surface during its development. You will notice as the pins grow they use up the water supplied by the beads.







I got really worried because it seemed a bit excessive to have all of that water (even though the guy I quoted seems to not have a problem with it). Now I cut it down to every 2 hours on for 15 minutes. Can't seem to get moisture right. It's either too little or too much.

Edited by ghaleon (03/11/18 05:59 AM)

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: ghaleon]
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Hmm, same here I also have moisture problems

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: ninono]
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I can't believe this girl keeps BOTH her cool mist and ultrasonic on 24/7. That's....a bit much, no?

HippieChick said:
Blutjager said:
OK after all this talk of successfully fruiting uncased substrate I decided to give it another go and I put two in the greenhouse this morning despite the lousy experience I had last time I tried it out uncased.

I know that it basically should be treated as a huge cake and a humidity of near 100% should be maintained at all times,I do not have an ultrasonic,what are my chances of getting the humidity in my greenhouse that high with just a cool mist and a huge tub or moist perlite on the entire bottom shelf,

How often should this thing be misted,I know better than to let water pool on the surface but with nothing holding in any moisture I just don't want it to end up like last time,I know there are a few people here who have had success in the greenhouse uncased,I guess my question is if anyone has done it with out an ultrasonic or am I going to have to go and buy one tomorrow.

Also I know that wax paper can be used to hold humidity close to the surface for a better microclimate,this didn't seem to work for me last time ...ANY advice is appreciated



I've had good results with just a cool mist , but an ultrasonic will really make a difference when fruiting uncased . I leave them both on 24/7 .

My GH is pretty foggy





Here's something else I do to help things out . I took some of RR's advice about perlite trays and added the verm I used to set the cakes on and now set them on a 50/50 mix of verm and perlite





The verm holds water that the cake can suck up while the perlite will let some wick back into the air to help maintain the humidity . If the verm seems dry , I just add tap water:thumbup:

I'm not having any problems getting pins





That's going to be one hell of a first flush:grin:

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Looks like people are still updating this thread. I need some help dialing in my GH. I have a good heat source which also gives me good humidity however I don't think I am getting good FAE. Reading through this it looks like people are using a cool mist humidifier for FAE but because I already have good humidity I'm worried that this will create too much humidity. Additionally I would put the cool mist in the GH with no opening so I'm not sure where the fresh air will; come in through unless I cut some holes in the greenhouse and fill them with a synthetic filter disc or polyfill.

Here is a picture of the set up now. Can anyone help me on the FAE issue.



Thanks!

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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Hey all

So if we thought of the GH in monotub terms

The ultrasonic is basically misting your casing/substrate
The cool mist is your passive FAE

So if your casings are too moist after the ultrasonic kicks on, decrease the frequency of the ultrasonic cycles.

If you run the cool mist 24/7 you have a baseline of maximum FAE in your GH. So modifying the ultrasonic timings is the way to go.

You will find a good balance. A casing layer is hugely beneficial in the Gh. Gives you more wiggle room with ultrasonic cycles, be it too moist or too dry


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Edited by FrankHorrigan (05/16/18 07:08 PM)

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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So I thought of using an air booster and plumb it up to the outside to solve the FAE problem.

Has anyone ever used this set up?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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Soulsearchin2018 said:
So I thought of using an air booster and plumb it up to the outside to solve the FAE problem.

Has anyone ever used this set up?




Lotta work, have you read the OP?

The cool mist can sit at the base with the intake facing out through the slightly unzipped doorway.


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
Soulsearchin2018 said:
So I thought of using an air booster and plumb it up to the outside to solve the FAE problem.

Has anyone ever used this set up?




Lotta work, have you read the OP?

The cool mist can sit at the base with the intake facing out through the slightly unzipped doorway.



What is the OP?

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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Original post

First post in this thread


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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OK I see it. The only potential issue I see is that my doors don't zip at the corners so I'll have to angle the cool mist differently. I've recently cut out 3 squares into the left side of the GH and taped and glued synthetic filter discs to cover them for more FAE. I've noticed the humidity drop down after I did this so I am assuming that I am now getting more fresh air in there and my idea of ducting a booster fan might not be needed. I've started turning on my humidifying system which consists of a mason jar, an air stone, and a tube that goes from the bottom of the so I have to see how that is going to affect things as well.

I have a few more days before my jars are birthed so I'm getting a bit nervous about having this all set up correctly before the cakes come.

Appreciate the advice.

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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Honestly SS2018 I'd recommend an SGFC if you are fruiting BRF cakes.
Due to their size they will probably dry out quickly.
You can also a brick of coir and some vermiculite and some baking trays to spawn the BRF cakes to. If you put a casing layer on the substrate it will give you more room to work with RH and FAE while you dial in the GH :thumbup:
I'd recommend the cool-mist + ultrasonic combo in the original post if you are going to do trays.


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Thanks Frank. I  might have to bite the bullet and get those two pieces you're talking about. I rushed in and bought a grow kit that was pretty pricey so I'm trying to hold off on any more expenses for a while but it is what it is.

Can you give me some advice on these cakes from this other thread I posted:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25222414

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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Done, but I don't think those cakes are alright sadly :frown:


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Hi all! Been reading and learning for the better part of a year. Lots of good info on this forum. Here goes for my first post!

Frank, What size are the racks you're using and where did you get the greenhouse plastic to fit over them both?

Currently using a mini greenhouse and it's much smaller. Looking to upgrade my space.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: Bigurt]
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Ignore my stupid first post. I somehow managed to skip over the part where you explain exactly what I was looking for lol!

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Thanks for the info!

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