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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: roomsh]
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It came with a retail mini-greenhouse unit. A double-wide.

I don't remember the model name. I'm sure any semi-transparent tarp will work though.


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Frank, how necessary is the casing layer for a greenhouse?  I just set mine up and wont have anything to stick in it for 4 days.  I plan on going a very low tek route.
If I need a casing layer what would you recommend?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: tbagtag]
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tbagtag said:
Frank, how necessary is the casing layer for a greenhouse?  I just set mine up and wont have anything to stick in it for 4 days.  I plan on going a very low tek route.
If I need a casing layer what would you recommend?


I would go with 50/50+ but if you are going low tek, verm will work as well.

Or even just straight coir if you wanna get real old-school :lol:



Updates, everyone, nothing major but I realized I had some very early galindoi images up. I replaced them with the galindois at harvest time. Much better :wink:


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Im setting it up tomorrow, my bricks will be ready to go into it in a few more days.  Do you mind if I post photos once it goes up or would you rather I start my own thread?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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So, we are 7 months after....is there anything you have learned better , would change, etc? by now you are surely well broken in with some wisdom?

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: RandomFX]
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Frank, what kind of timer are you using to alternate the humidifiers?

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: quadracer]
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Frank, I'm getting a 4 tier gh today (I'm assuming its half of what u have, b/c u have two together?).  I'm using ur set up.  just wondering any tips u have on maintenance, daily, weekly, monthly, anything like wiping walls, shelves, etc.  my plan is to use it with edibles, and stick with  mono's and buckets for cubes.  the edibles i have are still colonizing in bags now tho, so i will do a trial run with cubes in there to dial in conditions.  I'm mainly worried about what happens when u get a contamination in there, trich, vert, whatever.  after taking out the affected substrate, do u just zip it back up?  or what?
also, what do u do in between runs?  say u are not going to use it for a month or so after is has been used, do u dry it out, wipe it down, etc, and then repeat before using again?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Hi there! I have the exact same setup as yours, my ultrasonic runs for 15 minutes every hour and the cool mist (wick type) runs for 30 minutes per hour but I have a problem maintaining stable relative humidity. When the ultrasonic starts, the rh goes up to 89, and stays quite stable but as soon as the ultrasonic kicks in it starts dropping down until it reach 69-70%. I've set up trays of wet perlite to try to make it more stable on the empty shelf but it doesn't seems to help much. I've boosted my room rh with another ultrasonic, doesn't seems to help much neither. I've tried mesuring the rh with 3 different hygromethers but they all read around the same (they're digital though so not ideal, a good one is on the way)... So any idea about what I should do? I am misting my casing now a bit so it doesn't dry but is there anything else I should do? I was thinking about running my ultrasonic for longer but it would probably soak the greenhouse. Any troubleshooting help would be welcome :smile:

Edited by EcstaticTrance (02/26/14 11:51 AM)

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: EcstaticTrance]
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I really wish I had the space to do this.


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: EcstaticTrance]
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RandomFX said:
So, we are 7 months after....is there anything you have learned better , would change, etc? by now you are surely well broken in with some wisdom?


I've learned that a good baseline is Ultrasonic 15 min every 2 hours and evaporative cool mist 30 minutes every hour for two hours.

I also set the ultrasonic to occasionally mist everything a little heavier- twice a day (noon and midnight), it kicks on for 15 minutes every hour.

Other than that, the casing layers and mushrooms really tell me how my conditions are.

quadracer said:
Frank, what kind of timer are you using to alternate the humidifiers?


Just a standard electrical timer for the evaporative cool mist. I use a hydro timer for my ultrasonic, I needed 15 minute intervals and not 30.

blindingleaf said:
I'm mainly worried about what happens when u get a contamination in there, trich, vert, whatever.  after taking out the affected substrate, do u just zip it back up?  or what?
also, what do u do in between runs?  say u are not going to use it for a month or so after is has been used, do u dry it out, wipe it down, etc, and then repeat before using again?


Contam'd subs get removed and life goes on.

You probably won't see many contams unless your procedures are failing (spawn, pasteurizing, etc), the FAE this setup provides is massive and the RH ideal.

When I had it down for six months, I simply opened the front up and lifted the door over the top so it was open. I cleaned my humidifiers out and let it sit.

No need to worry too much, I promise. This sits in my unfinished basement, it is far from clean and I have had zero issues.


EcstaticTrance said:
I have a problem maintaining stable relative humidity.


See what I wrote in this post (above).

Don't worry about your ambient RH too much. I don't even check mine anymore to be honest. The casing layers and/or substrates need to be keep moist, that is the job of the ultrasonic. The humidity at the surface of the sub will be fine as the moisture evaporates off in between ultrasonic cycles. 

I honeslty found everything to be too wet at 15min every hour for the ultrasonic.


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Edited by FrankHorrigan (02/26/14 10:28 PM)

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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:rockon:
thx dude!!


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: blindingleaf]
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ya, I'm running a wellington bucket, without a humidifier, just in a one shelf GH frame with a large garbage bag covering it, and a small square of perlite, where I manually mist it periodically, and the whole thing is sitting on top of open bin. (which means about 4-5" on each side is hanging over it and open totally. with a small vent cut in the top maybe 3" wide. and I now have tow of the holes with clusters coming out, and two more I can visibly see clusters about to come out. the humidity inside the house at the moment is about 23% it isn't huge  inside the chamber either honestly. but it does drastically fluctuate as I mist. and you can bet it has massive FAE. It surely depends on the species, but I think too many people pay too much attention to RH, and not enough to surface humidity fluctuations which I think personally might 'lift' hyphae as it is being formed causing it to hook and cause primordia.but I haven't researched it or studied it enough to really have a clue yet, it is just a out of blue theory.

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: RandomFX]
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Frank, could you post the dimensions of your greenhouse cover? I'm having a hard time finding one that will fit two wire shelves


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek [Re: mushrume man]
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Hey Frank how much does it cost in electricity to run the humidifiers and the lights?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH, no condensation and 24/7 FAE [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
joeydimes said:
Frank,

I see your trays are aluminum containers lined with garbage bags. Now do you cover those before fruiting after you add the spawn and substrate mixture together to let them consolidate?


Yes, I cover the trays with foil or press-n-seal, whichever is laying around. I poke 5-6 small holes in the cover for GE.

Then they are cased and fruited immediately once 100% colonized.


do you colonize in the same greenhouse with same conditions as fruiting?


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Hi Frank,

Thank you for the excellent write up. I am very inspired.

However, I have a 3-tier GH and I do not wish to take space away from trays and jars by having the FAE-humidifier inside so I figured I'd have an external FAE contraption. When you say "Tons of FAE", what orders of magnitude are you talking about more precisely, could you express it in cubic feet per minute or cubic meters per hour? I am doing a self-made humidifier (aquarium pump with bubblers in a vessel + fan(s)) and I need to know how big a fan (or fans) I need. (I will probably keep the ultra inside the GH though.)

Kind regards
Johnny


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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Hiya Frank,

Thank you for a great thread. However, some ultrasonic humidifiers might have sensitive electronics, I put my UH inside the GH as you suggested and it quit working after a while. I took it out of the GH and after a couple of days it started working again. Like you, I also don't like cutting the plastic (because the cuts tend to be bigger and bigger) however, I have now cut the GH plastic and I am piping in the vapor from the UH (which now is placed outside of the GH) and it has been working fine ever since.

It is great that having the UH inside the GH works for you, however, if you have the time maybe you could update the OP with a reference to my experience, it is particularly good to know that if the UH breaks down, there is a good chance that it will start working again given a few days of drying out the electronics, this is what I believe anyhow.

Kind regards
Johnny

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: johnnytheswede]
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I think you got lucky with it starting to work again. moisture and electronics do not mix...doesn't take a genius to know that frankly. However, that being said, it also doesn't mean some humidifiers are actually sealed fairly well and have plastic housing with vent holes to allow air in to cool the electronics....if one were to seal a hose or some other similar method around the vent and have that lead away from the GH's humidity you would probably be ok. you just shouldn't have it operating in a super high humid environment. I believe most say not to operate in anything above 80% or some such.
"Tons of FAE" really depends on the type of mushroom you are growing. oysters for instance enjoy a real lot of FAE I think, and grow nicely when they have it.

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: RandomFX]
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Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I can understand what you are saying. As I have now cut my GH, I will continue to pipe the humidity in however.

Kind regards
Johnny

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Re: Frank's easy mini-GH tek: quit worrying about RH! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Excellent tek thanks for shsrig

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