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Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea?
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I normally don't follow anything political, but this one caught my eye.

Trump is apparently naming jerusalem as Israels capital, but he's being warned by many, saying it's a horrible dangerous idea.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Not Responding]
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Nah, by rights, the Jews own that land. They were there for thousands of years before they were chased out.

I don't see a problem with naming Jerusalem the nation's capital.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Not Responding]
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If you truly want to understand, you'll want to go back in the Bible to Genesis when Abraham had two sons.  One son "fathered" one side, the other son "fathered" the other side...  Then add a few thousand years of history and atrocities they have committed to each other.  And then add which modern faith you agree with...  you'll likely never get an unbiased answer.
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Jew=Isaac bloodline
Arab=Ishmael bloodline

In TRUTH - God promised to bless all of Abraham's offspring...  so they're fighting over two brothers, and which one was "chosen"...  when God never chose either child - he chose Abraham...

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: spliffstix] * 2
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So if you look at the mess that is the Palestine/Is real conflict, you will see why.

So Is real didn't exist till after ww2, now during the war England promised Palestine, that they would become independent if they sided with the allies. Now as you know the war ended, Hitler lost, and the world learned about the holocaust.

Enter the creation of Israel. Isreal is a settler colony. Land was stolen from Palestinians (who were living there) and given to European Jews.

Now normally migration shouldn't be much of a problem. But Israel functions as a theocracy (a Jewish republic sorta like Iran is an Islamic republic), and apartied state. Palestieians are forced off of there land and relegated to a lesser status with few if any rights. An easy comparison would be Indian removal here in the U.S. or South African.

So that's the context, the conflict continues, additional land is stolen. Palestine wants to be independent, or you know exist as its own state.

Jerusalem is the capital/claimed territory of both.

Hope that helps


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Johnny Dont] * 2
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It's dangerous to call Jerusalem the capital of Israel because it might cause war in the Middle East.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Johnny Dont] * 3
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Because you have three major religions who all claim Jerusalem to be sacred territory. Additionally, much of the actual city is territory that Israel annexed in a war, and is considered occupied territory by the international community. By designating Jerusalem the capital  the US is picking sides in a political and religious fight. This is not the time or place to take a principled stand. Diplomacy requires pragmatism and compromise means that all parties get some of their demands met, and no party gets all of their demands met. 

By saying Jerusalem belongs to Israel, you are essentially rejecting Muslim claims on the same territory. You're pissing people off. Your feeding right into the narrative that ISIS uses to inflame to Islamic world: the US is engaged in a war against all of Islam. It's just a stupid move that has no diplomatic upside. Trump is giving his base a feel good victory for his own political benefit. People will die. It could devolve into serious violence.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Canadian Jesus]
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Canadian Jesus said:
Nah, by rights, the Jews own that land. They were there for thousands of years before they were chased out.

I don't see a problem with naming Jerusalem the nation's capital.


The bible isn't a historical document. It's a biased, supernatural account of the jewish people. Let's not base modern claims to land on scripture.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] * 3
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Fuck religion is stupid....


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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The bible is definitely a historical document, although maybe not a historically accurate one. It may not give us accurate facts (like there is no proof of Israelites being in Egypt) but it gives remarkable insight into the lifestyle and culture of an ancient people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_document?wprov=sfla1

Picture number 2 is a bible, go figure.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Because you have three major religions who all claim Jerusalem to be sacred territory. Additionally, much of the actual city is territory that Israel annexed in a war, and is considered occupied territory by the international community. By designating Jerusalem the capital  the US is picking sides in a political and religious fight. This is not the time or place to take a principled stand. Diplomacy requires pragmatism and compromise means that all parties get some of their demands met, and no party gets all of their demands met. 

By saying Jerusalem belongs to Israel, you are essentially rejecting Muslim claims on the same territory. You're pissing people off. Your feeding right into the narrative that ISIS uses to inflame to Islamic world: the US is engaged in a war against all of Islam. It's just a stupid move that has no diplomatic upside. Trump is giving his base a feel good victory for his own political benefit. People will die. It could devolve into serious violence.


acctually in Israel, Jews, Muslims and Christians all live together. in Palestinian controlled areas there certainly aren't many Jews living there if any and Christians are oppressed.

so if you want it to be fair for all three religions then Israel should own Jerusalem. giving it to the Palestinians is the worst thing you could do if you want to be fair.

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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Why not just have tel aviv be the political and economic capital, and Jerusalem be the religious one.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] * 3
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i think he should not recognize isreal as a nation anymore till they can be nice nieghbors and sort out thier problems n stuff with Palestine

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Its disputed territory. You might as well call it the capital of the Palestinian State.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Asante]
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make jerusselm a sovereign nation like vatican city

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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Do we actually care about this issue in the end?


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] * 1
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9/11 was an inside job

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 2
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Mad_Larkin said:
9/11 was an inside job


False. The planes clearly came from outside of the building.


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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Asante] * 2
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
i think he should not recognize isreal as a nation anymore till they can be nice nieghbors and sort out thier problems n stuff with Palestine


Hamas (elected leaders of the gaza a strip and a terrorist organization) has no interest in working together with Jews. they will not suddenly be nice. everyone expects Israel to just let Palestinians walk all over them and not retaliate. because Israel is a prosperous, western country and everywhere else in the region sucks.

So according to the leftist, neomarxist point of view, Israel must be screwing over and oppressing Muslims. wealthy people and nations are always screwing someone over and poor, shitty ones are always victims and they are always virtuous.

it's ridiculous to say that we won't support Israel and will punnish them unless tbey get along with their neighbors because their neighbors aren't looking to get along.

Edited by BANANA.MAN (12/06/17 11:34 AM)

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] * 2
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Patlal said:
Mad_Larkin said:
9/11 was an inside job


False. The planes clearly came from outside of the building.


shill

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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] * 2
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting


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