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 Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? 
#24829256 - 12/06/17 05:14 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I normally don't follow anything political, but this one caught my eye.
Trump is apparently naming jerusalem as Israels capital, but he's being warned by many, saying it's a horrible dangerous idea.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Not Responding]
#24829264 - 12/06/17 05:26 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, by rights, the Jews own that land. They were there for thousands of years before they were chased out.
I don't see a problem with naming Jerusalem the nation's capital.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Not Responding]
#24829271 - 12/06/17 05:32 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you truly want to understand, you'll want to go back in the Bible to Genesis when Abraham had two sons. One son "fathered" one side, the other son "fathered" the other side... Then add a few thousand years of history and atrocities they have committed to each other. And then add which modern faith you agree with... you'll likely never get an unbiased answer.
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Jew=Isaac bloodline
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In TRUTH - God promised to bless all of Abraham's offspring... so they're fighting over two brothers, and which one was "chosen"... when God never chose either child - he chose Abraham...
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: spliffstix] 2
#24829292 - 12/06/17 05:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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So if you look at the mess that is the Palestine/Is real conflict, you will see why.
So Is real didn't exist till after ww2, now during the war England promised Palestine, that they would become independent if they sided with the allies. Now as you know the war ended, Hitler lost, and the world learned about the holocaust.
Enter the creation of Israel. Isreal is a settler colony. Land was stolen from Palestinians (who were living there) and given to European Jews.
Now normally migration shouldn't be much of a problem. But Israel functions as a theocracy (a Jewish republic sorta like Iran is an Islamic republic), and apartied state. Palestieians are forced off of there land and relegated to a lesser status with few if any rights. An easy comparison would be Indian removal here in the U.S. or South African.
So that's the context, the conflict continues, additional land is stolen. Palestine wants to be independent, or you know exist as its own state.
Jerusalem is the capital/claimed territory of both.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Johnny Dont] 2
#24829311 - 12/06/17 06:17 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's dangerous to call Jerusalem the capital of Israel because it might cause war in the Middle East.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Johnny Dont] 3
#24829314 - 12/06/17 06:19 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because you have three major religions who all claim Jerusalem to be sacred territory. Additionally, much of the actual city is territory that Israel annexed in a war, and is considered occupied territory by the international community. By designating Jerusalem the capital the US is picking sides in a political and religious fight. This is not the time or place to take a principled stand. Diplomacy requires pragmatism and compromise means that all parties get some of their demands met, and no party gets all of their demands met.
By saying Jerusalem belongs to Israel, you are essentially rejecting Muslim claims on the same territory. You're pissing people off. Your feeding right into the narrative that ISIS uses to inflame to Islamic world: the US is engaged in a war against all of Islam. It's just a stupid move that has no diplomatic upside. Trump is giving his base a feel good victory for his own political benefit. People will die. It could devolve into serious violence.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Canadian Jesus]
#24829320 - 12/06/17 06:27 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, by rights, the Jews own that land. They were there for thousands of years before they were chased out.
I don't see a problem with naming Jerusalem the nation's capital.
The bible isn't a historical document. It's a biased, supernatural account of the jewish people. Let's not base modern claims to land on scripture.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] 3
#24829327 - 12/06/17 06:40 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck religion is stupid....
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24829336 - 12/06/17 06:46 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The bible is definitely a historical document, although maybe not a historically accurate one. It may not give us accurate facts (like there is no proof of Israelites being in Egypt) but it gives remarkable insight into the lifestyle and culture of an ancient people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_document?wprov=sfla1
Picture number 2 is a bible, go figure.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] 1
#24829344 - 12/06/17 06:56 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because you have three major religions who all claim Jerusalem to be sacred territory. Additionally, much of the actual city is territory that Israel annexed in a war, and is considered occupied territory by the international community. By designating Jerusalem the capital the US is picking sides in a political and religious fight. This is not the time or place to take a principled stand. Diplomacy requires pragmatism and compromise means that all parties get some of their demands met, and no party gets all of their demands met.
By saying Jerusalem belongs to Israel, you are essentially rejecting Muslim claims on the same territory. You're pissing people off. Your feeding right into the narrative that ISIS uses to inflame to Islamic world: the US is engaged in a war against all of Islam. It's just a stupid move that has no diplomatic upside. Trump is giving his base a feel good victory for his own political benefit. People will die. It could devolve into serious violence.
acctually in Israel, Jews, Muslims and Christians all live together. in Palestinian controlled areas there certainly aren't many Jews living there if any and Christians are oppressed.
so if you want it to be fair for all three religions then Israel should own Jerusalem. giving it to the Palestinians is the worst thing you could do if you want to be fair.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24829376 - 12/06/17 07:33 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why not just have tel aviv be the political and economic capital, and Jerusalem be the religious one.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] 3
#24829386 - 12/06/17 07:42 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think he should not recognize isreal as a nation anymore till they can be nice nieghbors and sort out thier problems n stuff with Palestine
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#24829394 - 12/06/17 07:48 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its disputed territory. You might as well call it the capital of the Palestinian State.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Asante]
#24829399 - 12/06/17 07:52 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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make jerusselm a sovereign nation like vatican city
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#24829416 - 12/06/17 08:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do we actually care about this issue in the end?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] 1
#24829422 - 12/06/17 08:09 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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9/11 was an inside job
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin] 2
#24829424 - 12/06/17 08:11 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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9/11 was an inside job
False. The planes clearly came from outside of the building.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Asante] 2
#24829475 - 12/06/17 08:55 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think he should not recognize isreal as a nation anymore till they can be nice nieghbors and sort out thier problems n stuff with Palestine
Hamas (elected leaders of the gaza a strip and a terrorist organization) has no interest in working together with Jews. they will not suddenly be nice. everyone expects Israel to just let Palestinians walk all over them and not retaliate. because Israel is a prosperous, western country and everywhere else in the region sucks.
So according to the leftist, neomarxist point of view, Israel must be screwing over and oppressing Muslims. wealthy people and nations are always screwing someone over and poor, shitty ones are always victims and they are always virtuous.
it's ridiculous to say that we won't support Israel and will punnish them unless tbey get along with their neighbors because their neighbors aren't looking to get along.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] 2
#24829491 - 12/06/17 09:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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9/11 was an inside job
False. The planes clearly came from outside of the building.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal] 2
#24829516 - 12/06/17 09:15 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Not Responding] 1
#24829550 - 12/06/17 09:37 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump is apparently naming jerusalem as Israels capital, but he's being warned by many, saying it's a horrible dangerous idea.
I don't follow why his opinion on this would be relevant to anything. Don't countries decide internally which city to locate their federal government offices, making that city the capital?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: ModestMouse]
#24829562 - 12/06/17 09:46 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting
The cost of having a large military is that you have to use it.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: psi]
#24829575 - 12/06/17 09:53 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump is apparently naming jerusalem as Israels capital, but he's being warned by many, saying it's a horrible dangerous idea.
I don't follow why his opinion on this would be relevant to anything. Don't countries decide internally which city to locate their federal government offices, making that city the capital?
do you think if it was up to israel that Palestinians would occupy any land whatsoever? when egypt, jordon, syria andd iraq all teamed up to destroy israel they got their ass kicked and their land taken in 6 days. israel has released prisoners and surrendered land not because they have to. because everyone with an anti israel and anti western bias is looking for any opportunity to tar and feather israel as the bad guy. the only reason why israel doesnt take control of this situation and why they allow palestinians to have their own areas is because of external pressure from leftists.
so trump is saying he supports the choice because if external support werent important and they could internally control themselves they would already have total control of jerusalem. thats the way i see it.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: psi]
#24829584 - 12/06/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump is apparently naming jerusalem as Israels capital, but he's being warned by many, saying it's a horrible dangerous idea.
I don't follow why his opinion on this would be relevant to anything. Don't countries decide internally which city to locate their federal government offices, making that city the capital?
yeah, this is just another contrivance of the media. move along.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#24829626 - 12/06/17 10:20 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I was in grade school I remember being taught that their capital was Tel Aviv.
The best I can figure out is that Jerusalem is the city that Israel's government operates out of and thinks of as being the country's capital city, but that a bunch of countries put their embassies in Tel Aviv instead as a kind of protest over land disputes. It sounds like Jerusalem (or whatever portion of it they control) is already their capital city. Other countries moving their embassies to Jerusalem seems like it would constitute recognizing Jerusalem as capital of Israel, but the task of naming a city the capital seems like it falls to Israel's government and not the US president.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: psi]
#24829682 - 12/06/17 10:42 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Netesyahoo whatever the fuck his name is, is a dick head
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Konyap]
#24829803 - 12/06/17 11:58 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got a text from my friend who's working in the US embassy in Islamabad and they are now in lockdown.
This is might be Trumps most consequential foreign policy decision and not in a good way,
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24829858 - 12/06/17 12:25 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Isn't it amazing the shit you can achieve if you don't give a fuck about what people think?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24829862 - 12/06/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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the US embassy in Islamabad and they are now in lockdown.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods] 1
#24829865 - 12/06/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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We shouldn’t allow Muslims to try and intimidate or threaten America. They are threatening violence if we Americans pick a side but so what. Israel was not invented after world war 2, Israel existed back in the Bible times. Israel belonged to the Jews thousands of years before the Muslim religion was even created. It belongs to the Jews and trump is correct to give them it and we should never allow fear or intimidation to stop us from doing something.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
#24829869 - 12/06/17 12:29 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is that an inspirational quote from the Sociopaths Guide to Success?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: ShiVersblood]
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de but so what. Israel was not invented after world war 2, Israel existed back in the Bible times. Israel belonged to the Jews thousands of years before the Muslim religion was even created. It belongs to the Jews and trump is correct to give them it and we should never allow fear or intimidation to stop us from doing som
Guess every square inch of the USA belongs to Indians then right ... meanwhile trumps innercircle and half his supporters are calling for violence against Jews.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: ShiVersblood]
#24829901 - 12/06/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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We shouldn’t allow Muslims to try and intimidate or threaten America. They are threatening violence if we Americans pick a side but so what.
Yeah I'm pretty sure extremist Muslims (along with a bunch of other people) already consider the US to be firmly on Israel's side anyway.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: ModestMouse]
#24829904 - 12/06/17 12:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting
yeah and now we are finally letting israel make its own choices instead of putting pressure on them to be nice to people who hate them. isnt it great?
israel would have defeated it's enemies long ago if it weren't for pressure from leftists.
its time israel stops looking for brownie points from people who will hate israel no matter what.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24829970 - 12/06/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is that an inspirational quote from the Sociopaths Guide to Success?
It's how most people succeed in life.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
#24829976 - 12/06/17 01:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah it's a great business strategy - Who cares what customers think.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24829991 - 12/06/17 01:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because you have three major religions who all claim Jerusalem to be sacred territory.
No, you have two. Muslims place everything that the Bible says happened in Palestine in the Arabian Peninsula. The war has more to do with the fact that the Muslims in the area have had shitty, stupid leaders since at least the 1940s than it does with Muslim scripture.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24830000 - 12/06/17 01:28 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting
yeah and now we are finally letting israel make its own choices instead of putting pressure on them to be nice to people who hate them. isnt it great?
israel would have defeated it's enemies long ago if it weren't for pressure from leftists.
They probably would have had better luck if the US hadn't destabilized Western Asia during the reign of Dubya. The Israelis have never been able nor willing to just kill everybody in the name of peace, Yom Kippur War notwithstanding.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
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The fact that our country still attempts to sherrif the middle east is disgusting
yeah and now we are finally letting israel make its own choices instead of putting pressure on them to be nice to people who hate them. isnt it great?
israel would have defeated it's enemies long ago if it weren't for pressure from leftists.
They probably would have had better luck if the US hadn't destabilized Western Asia during the reign of Dubya. The Israelis have never been able nor willing to just kill everybody in the name of peace, Yom Kippur War notwithstanding.
killing everyone and a 2 state solution arent the only 2 options.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Is that an inspirational quote from the Sociopaths Guide to Success?
oh those poor oppressed brown people who elect terrorist organizations and launch rockets from the rooftops of hospitals 
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#24831601 - 12/07/17 09:36 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you believe in collective punishment of civilians? You're really not any different than the terrorists, and the rest of us have to pay for your tribalism.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24831604 - 12/07/17 09:40 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's fair to say that the western world is pretty much desensitized with the Middle East. It's far away, it's been in chaos for many decades and somehow bombs aren't fixing the problem.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
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The Middle East will never be fixed, unfortunately.
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The Middle East will never be fixed, unfortunately.
See. I don't know why.
What do we do when our cars break down or our toilets don't flush? We put a bomb in them and then they are fixed... Why doesn't that work in the Middle East?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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So you believe in collective punishment of civilians? You're really not any different than the terrorists, and the rest of us have to pay for your tribalism.
nope, you're the one implying the Israelis are evil for defending themselves.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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They're protesting(rioting) in the streets you can watch feeds from a few hours ago lighting shit on fire, throwing rocks at soldiers, and burning flags.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: PreparationH]
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I'm surprised nobody died yet.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: PreparationH]
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They're protesting(rioting) in the streets you can watch feeds from a few hours ago lighting shit on fire, throwing rocks at soldiers, and burning flags.
doesnt take much to set them off does it? almost like they were waiting for an excuse 
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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So you believe in collective punishment of civilians? You're really not any different than the terrorists, and the rest of us have to pay for your tribalism.
nope, you're the one implying the Israelis are evil for defending themselves.
The problem is when western powers "defend themselves" this is what things end up looking like:
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So you believe in collective punishment of civilians? You're really not any different than the terrorists, and the rest of us have to pay for your tribalism.
nope, you're the one implying the Israelis are evil for defending themselves.
So if I wander into a house I used to rent, and the guy living there now attacks me, can I really call it self defense if I shoot him?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Here's what the Israelis did to the Palestinians during the seige of the Gaza Strip . What was this defending? Some model rocketry that killed one person? If you live in these places wouldn't you become intent on revenge? Of course you would. You're already like that, and you've probably never experienced a single moment of violence in your life.
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God doesn't dwell in a house made by man Koods.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
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Maybe if they could somehow get the Palestinians out of there, so the Palestinian muslims and the Israeli jews would stop fighting. Maybe deport Palestinians to a muslim majority country? Because it seems they dont like living in a Jewish Israel country.
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God doesn't dwell in a house made by man Koods.
God only dwells in the minds of the delusional and mentally ill
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24832020 - 12/07/17 01:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gaza just fired rockets at Israel. It goes both ways.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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God doesn't dwell in a house made by man Koods.
God only dwells in the minds of the delusional and mentally ill
We agree on stuff sometimes. Feels odd.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Herbologist]
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the horror. I hope the cornfield it landed in will be ok.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Herbologist] 2
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koods Gaza just fired 2 rockets at Israel. they just landed in Gaza. it's not the Israelis fault that they can aim and Palestinians can't.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24832040 - 12/07/17 01:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only landed short cause they suck. Could of been very destructive if it had gone farther.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Herbologist]
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Firecrackers are not meant to travel far.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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koods Gaza just fired 2 rockets at Israel. they just landed in Gaza. it's not the Israelis fault that they can aim and Palestinians can't.
So, you're saying Israel was aiming at the hundreds of children killed by Israeli attacks in gaza?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24832056 - 12/07/17 01:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yay. Trump just started a war. MAGA
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24832058 - 12/07/17 01:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was Obama aiming at hospitals with women and children?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
#24832099 - 12/07/17 01:57 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yay. Trump just started a war. MAGA
Meh, he just threw glass of fuel on a raging fire.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Herbologist]
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Was Obama aiming at hospitals with women and children?
Bananarama said Israel is great at aiming. are they or not?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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koods Gaza just fired 2 rockets at Israel. they just landed in Gaza. it's not the Israelis fault that they can aim and Palestinians can't.
So, you're saying Israel was aiming at the hundreds of children killed by Israeli attacks in gaza?
i didnt say they have perfect aim. atleast they didnt bomb themselves.
besides hamas tells civilians to stay in dangerous areas and attacks from hospitals and places like that precisely so israel will look bad and leftists like you can ise that as feul to demonize israel.
hammas thanks you for your support koods. blessings of allah be upon you, death to the jews.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Here's what the Israelis did to the Palestinians during the seige of the Gaza Strip . What was this defending? Some model rocketry that killed one person? If you live in these places wouldn't you become intent on revenge? Of course you would. You're already like that, and you've probably never experienced a single moment of violence in your life.
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Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
you really think there is any peaceful solution when dealing with people who think like this? 
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koods Gaza just fired 2 rockets at Israel. they just landed in Gaza. it's not the Israelis fault that they can aim and Palestinians can't.
So, you're saying Israel was aiming at the hundreds of children killed by Israeli attacks in gaza?
No, they were aiming at the artillery crews who were trying to shell commuter traffic, after firing warning shots and dropping leaflets to encourage civilians to take cover. Unfortunately Hamas doesn't believe in using bomb shelters to protect human beings and works really hard to make sure that civilians will get caught in the crossfire. Which isn't to say that Hamas (and the other various political factions in the Gaza Strip) doesn't do their fair share of killing Gaza Strip civilians with sugar rockets. They kill more civilians (in the Gaza Strip) during those conflagrations than the IDF.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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what weapons they use is also irrelevant, if they had nukes, they'd use em.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Here's what the Israelis did to the Palestinians during the seige of the Gaza Strip . What was this defending? Some model rocketry that killed one person? If you live in these places wouldn't you become intent on revenge? Of course you would. You're already like that, and you've probably never experienced a single moment of violence in your life.
Gee, it's almost like being in a war fucking sucks. 
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
#24832193 - 12/07/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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those poor buildings
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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what weapons they use is also irrelevant, if they had nukes, they'd use em.
No, it is totally relevant. That's why the Israelis don't like it when people import sugar to the Gaza Strip.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sugar+rocket
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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those poor buildings
The problem is that there were probably people in those buildings when they were destroyed. And now they're dead pretty much because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
#24832221 - 12/07/17 02:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's not the problem that's the solution 
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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that's not the problem that's the solution
Well gee. Maybe you should shut the fuck up and join the army then.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
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i doubt it'd would be worth it. killing kids probably loses it's edge after the 3rd or 4th time.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
#24832239 - 12/07/17 02:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Firecrackers are not meant to travel far.
They're solid fuel rockets with a shrapnel bomb on the tip and a range of several kilometers.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
#24832396 - 12/07/17 04:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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jerusalem is mentioned hundreds of times in the old testiment.
it is not mentioned in the quran.
the only reason why jerusalem is important to christians and muslims is because it was important to jews first. the only reason any of us have heard of it is because it is so important to the jewish people.
a jew in east jerusalem is in serious mortal danger. an arab in west jerusalem is safe. what does that tell you about who should be in control?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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I don't give a flying fuck if the Bible mention anything. It's a garbage argument. You don't own land because you think god gave it to you. That's the entire fucking problem:
And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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jerusalem is mentioned hundreds of times in the old testiment.
it is not mentioned in the quran.
the only reason why jerusalem is important to christians and muslims is because it was important to jews first. the only reason any of us have heard of it is because it is so important to the jewish people.
The main reason why Jerusalem was important to Muslims was that Europeans tended to try and use it as an excuse to enter the Levant (either as religious tourists or religious zealots waging a holy war). There was some good money to be made off of Christian pilgrims, as long as the current Sultan didn't mind dealing with foreign, religious whackjobs.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
Utter bullshit, on so many levels.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Yay. Trump just started a war. MAGA
the war was already stared. trump is just taking the steps to end it.
in 1995 the US congress decided that jerusalem is the capitol of israel. trumps just the first president to implememt the law.
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I don't give a flying fuck if the Bible mention anything. It's a garbage argument. You don't own land because you think god gave it to you. That's the entire fucking problem:
And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
there are no jews living in palestinian areas. arabs live all over israel.
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that's not the problem that's the solution
People like you are the actual problem
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that's not the problem that's the solution
People like you are the actual problem
Most Israelis seem to agree.
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It isn't a problem, people just love an opportunity to freak out on Trump.
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And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
Utter bullshit, on so many levels.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.798836
Israeli culture has become extremely racist in the past decade. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Muslims and Jews and I've seen the total lack of respect Hebrew speaking Jews have for Muslims. American Jews do not behave the same way.
It wasn't always like that. When I was in junior high school one of my best friends was the son of the Israeli ambassador, and another was a Muslim kid and nobody even blinked an eye. Maybe I was just too young to notice.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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there are no jews living in palestinian areas. arabs live all over israel.
And a lot of them are Jews. Arabs and Jews aren't mutually exclusive. I used to know a woman who grew up in Baghdad.
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I don't give a flying fuck if the Bible mention anything. It's a garbage argument. You don't own land because you think god gave it to you. That's the entire fucking problem:
And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
You own land if you have sufficient armies to keep it. That's pretty much the rule to owning land.
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And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
Utter bullshit, on so many levels.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.798836
Israeli culture has become extremely racist in the past decade. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Muslims and Jews and I've seen the total lack of respect Hebrew speaking Jews have for Muslims. American Jews do not behave the same way.
You have dual citizenship?
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there are no jews living in palestinian areas. arabs live all over israel.
And a lot of them are Jews. Arabs and Jews aren't mutually exclusive. I used to know a woman who grew up in Baghdad.
im saying muslim, christian, yazidi and druze arabs live all over israel and there are no jews in palestinian areas.
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And you're clueless if you think Israel is safe for arabs. Israel is about as safe for Arabs as the south was safe for black people in the first half of the 20th century. Right wing hate groups and gangs are taking over Israeli cities, and im not getting that from the media here im getting that from people who live in Israel.
Utter bullshit, on so many levels.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.798836
Israeli culture has become extremely racist in the past decade. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Muslims and Jews and I've seen the total lack of respect Hebrew speaking Jews have for Muslims. American Jews do not behave the same way.
Lehava isn't taking over Jerusalem. 
And I'm a Jew who grew up in the middle of a bunch of Israelis. Americans hate Muslims way the fuck more than Israelis. Just because Benjamin Netanyahu sucks up to right wing crazies it doesn't mean that Israelis reserve any special animus for Muslims in general.
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there are no jews living in palestinian areas. arabs live all over israel.
And a lot of them are Jews. Arabs and Jews aren't mutually exclusive. I used to know a woman who grew up in Baghdad.
im saying muslim, christian, yazidi and druze arabs live all over israel and there are no jews in palestinian areas.
And there are a lot of Jewish areas where there aren't any Muslims. There are also areas where Jews and Palestinians pretty much live next-door and fucking hate each other's guts.
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there are no jews living in palestinian areas. arabs live all over israel.
And a lot of them are Jews. Arabs and Jews aren't mutually exclusive. I used to know a woman who grew up in Baghdad.
im saying muslim, christian, yazidi and druze arabs live all over israel and there are no jews in palestinian areas.
And there are a lot of Jewish areas where there aren't any Muslims. There are also areas where Jews and Palestinians pretty much live next-door and fucking hate each other's guts.
they are allowed to live there. the same cant be said for jews in palestinian areas.
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
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are a lot of Jewish areas where there aren't any Muslims. There are also areas where Jews and Palestinians pretty much live next-door and fucking hate each other's guts.
they are allowed to live there. the same cant be said for jews in palestinian areas.
Have you ever heard of settlements? What do you think those are?
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are a lot of Jewish areas where there aren't any Muslims. There are also areas where Jews and Palestinians pretty much live next-door and fucking hate each other's guts.
they are allowed to live there. the same cant be said for jews in palestinian areas.
Have you ever heard of settlements? What do you think those are?
Purchased from landowners who don't really give a shit whether or not their tenants know that they just sold their house (and probably don't tell anybody for fear of being murdered).
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
It's more likely that your neighbors are racist dickheads as a result of their American upbringings and just using the war as an excuse to lash out at derm furgin others.
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that's not the problem that's the solution
People like you are the actual problem
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
That is probably because they are living in the reality, actually seeing and experiencing the violence and hatred, whereas you are not, so your opinions aren't forced to change from intense personal experiences. People who experience war and terror first hand often go further to the right because they realize the need for it.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
it isnt racist to have a dislike for people who want to kill you 
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: xzylocybin]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
That is probably because they are living in the reality, actually seeing and experiencing the violence and hatred, whereas you are not, so your opinions aren't forced to change from intense personal experiences. People who experience war and terror first hand often go further to the right because they realize the need for it.
Yeah. Right. Try taking your gun with you next time that you visit Israel.
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
That is probably because they are living in the reality, actually seeing and experiencing the violence and hatred, whereas you are not, so your opinions aren't forced to change from intense personal experiences. People who experience war and terror first hand often go further to the right because they realize the need for it.
Yeah. Right. Try taking your gun with you next time that you visit Israel.
Did I miss something? I'm not sure what you mean by that, I was agreeing with you, basically said what you said but more wordy.
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
That is probably because they are living in the reality, actually seeing and experiencing the violence and hatred, whereas you are not, so your opinions aren't forced to change from intense personal experiences. People who experience war and terror first hand often go further to the right because they realize the need for it.
Yeah. Right. Try taking your gun with you next time that you visit Israel.
Did I miss something? I'm not sure what you mean by that, I was agreeing with you, basically said what you said but more wordy.
You're not agreeing with me, you're coopting ugly truths about Western Asia in order to justify xenophobic dog-whistle politics.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
it isnt racist to have a dislike for people who want to kill you
I didn't realize the Muslim cashier at Walgreens wanted to kill the Israeli couple that was so rude and disrespectful that people in line were shocked and left the cashier in tears
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
That is probably because they are living in the reality, actually seeing and experiencing the violence and hatred, whereas you are not, so your opinions aren't forced to change from intense personal experiences. People who experience war and terror first hand often go further to the right because they realize the need for it.
Yeah. Right. Try taking your gun with you next time that you visit Israel.
Did I miss something? I'm not sure what you mean by that, I was agreeing with you, basically said what you said but more wordy.
You're not agreeing with me, you're coopting ugly truths about Western Asia in order to justify xenophobic dog-whistle politics.
Oh jeez did I do all that? I can tell you it was unintentional, I'm not even sure what you mean honestly. I just meant that when people are surrounded by people who want them dead they realize the need for a strong military and borders. I wasn't trying to justify expansionism or pre emptive military actions or even the existence of Israel in general.</font></font></font>
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
it isnt racist to have a dislike for people who want to kill you
I didn't realize the Muslim cashier at Walgreens wanted to kill the Israeli couple that was so rude and disrespectful that people in line were shocked and left the cashier in tears
That is the problem with racism, it doesn't account for nice innocent people, everyone should be treated with as an individual, though it makes sense and is natural to be wary around groups you have a lot of negative history with, hating on sight can't be good for ones mental state.
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Oh jeez did I do all that? I can tell you it was unintentional, I'm not even sure what you mean honestly. I just meant that when people are surrounded by people who want them dead they realize the need for a strong military and borders. I wasn't trying to justify expansionism or pre emptive military actions or even the existence of Israel in general.
Like I said...The United States is surrounded by Canada and Mexico. Not really the same thing at all. Our biggest problem is honestly psychotic Baptists with anger issues and stockpiles of firearms, which is to say that Americans are the biggest threat to the US.
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Oh jeez did I do all that? I can tell you it was unintentional, I'm not even sure what you mean honestly. I just meant that when people are surrounded by people who want them dead they realize the need for a strong military and borders. I wasn't trying to justify expansionism or pre emptive military actions or even the existence of Israel in general.
Like I said...The United States is surrounded by Canada and Mexico. Not really the same thing at all. Our biggest problem is honestly psychotic Baptists with anger issues and stockpiles of firearms, which is to say that Americans are the biggest threat to the US.
It wasn't a metaphore, I wasn't trying to connect it to our situation in the US, it was more if a stand alone statement and in reference to the position of the Israeli's, but your statement about baptists isn't true by any measurable statistic, and I wonder how you came by those beliefs. I do agree that Americans are the biggest threat to the US though, and the cabal of elite international luciferian pedos
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I'm surprised right wingers are still bringing up the topic of pedophilia now the party has embraced its practitioners.
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I just added that last bit for a little flavor, I should have known it would be inflamatory and left it out
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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I live in the middle of an eruv and every time one of my neighbors comes back from Israel they seem to have turned a little more racist. It's possible that since the Chabad house was built at the end of my street, more Lubavitchers have moved into the neighborhood and the politics of the people I deal with swing to the right at least when it comes to Israel.
it isnt racist to have a dislike for people who want to kill you
I didn't realize the Muslim cashier at Walgreens wanted to kill the Israeli couple that was so rude and disrespectful that people in line were shocked and left the cashier in tears
you didn't? take a look at the Islamic primary texts some time. also, the fact that you hail from a place where people burst into tears over disputes at the checkout speaks volumes.
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I'm surprised right wingers are still bringing up the topic of pedophilia now the party has embraced its practitioners.
and you have the nerve to gripe about tribalism
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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I'm surprised right wingers are still bringing up the topic of pedophilia now the party has embraced its practitioners.
They'll just point out that Roy Moore is technically a hebephile. The distinction is all the rage, these days.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
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well, it is a scientific distinction. science is something lefties only tangentially encounter and only tend to champion when it supports their tenuous belief systems. they disregard facts in favour of emotions whenever they can.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Question for Koods.
If 10 women came out tomorrow accusing Obama of fforcing himself f them, how would you react? How would you percieve Obama diffferently?
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: Patlal]
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Roy Moore is guilty. The Washington post had 30 sources for their original story.
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Roy Moore is guilty. The Washington post had 30 sources for their original story.
Yeah, but what about all of the women who didn't accuse Roy Moore of fucking them when they were in high school? 
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: chibiabos]
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Very true. It's like 3.5 billion to 10.
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The amount of sources is meaningless, it has more to do with whether or not what they are saying is bs
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Very true. It's like 3.5 billion to 10.
See? That's almost 99.9999997%!
Of course Roy Moore's staff was just referring to women in Alabama when they literally tried the same argument.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: xzylocybin]
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The bs is coming from Roy Moore and his completely bizarre surrogates.
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Re: Why is naming jerusalem capital of Israel a bad idea? [Re: koods]
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Oh gotcha I'll just take your word on that then
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