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Which languages do you speak? * 1
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To kick it off, here's a list of the degree of difficulty involved for the typical native English speaker to learn a given language.


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    Category I: 23-24 weeks (575-600 hours)
    Languages closely related to English
    Afrikaans
    Danish
    Dutch
    French
    Italian
    Norwegian
    Portuguese
    Romanian
    Spanish
    Swedish
    Category II: 30 weeks (750 hours)
    Languages similar to English
    German
    Category III: 36 weeks (900 hours)
    Languages with linguistic and/or cultural differences from English
    Indonesian
    Malaysian
    Swahili
    Category IV: 44 weeks (1100 hours)
    Languages with significant linguistic and/or cultural differences from English
    Albanian
    Amharic
    Armenian
    Azerbaijani
    Bengali
    Bosnian
    Bulgarian
    Burmese
    Croatian
    Czech
    *Estonian
    *Finnish
    *Georgian
    Greek
    Hebrew
    Hindi
    *Hungarian
    Icelandic
    Khmer
    Lao
    Latvian
    Lithuanian
    Macedonian
    *Mongolian
    Nepali
    Pashto
    Persian (Dari, Farsi, Tajik)
    Polish
    Russian
    Serbian
    Sinhala
    Slovak
    Slovenian
    Tagalog
    *Thai
    Turkish
    Ukrainian
    Urdu
    Uzbek
    *Vietnamese
    Xhosa
    Zulu
    Category V: 88 weeks (2200 hours)
    Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
    Arabic
    Cantonese (Chinese)
    Mandarin (Chinese)
    *Japanese
    Korean
    * Usually more difficult than other languages in the same category.




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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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I can read and only read a little Spanish.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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I actually was trying to learn some Japanese for a while there but looking at that list makes me reconsider. :lol:

I can read, write, and speak a little Quebecois but not as well as I had in high school.

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
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Dutch / English / German and some dabbles in other languages.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: larry.fisherman]
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I know spanish. Hungarian is for sure one of the hardest. Crazy ass language


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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Yo hablo/comprendo Espanol pequeno pero no perfecto.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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I speak English, Italian, Pidgin English, Pig Latin, Jive, and in tongues.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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American
took french in grade school that was 40 years ago :shrug:

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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Me old mum used to say I spoke fluent double dutch. This was achieved by flapping the tongue across the lips while humming.
I became quite fluent.
No offence Arse-ant, but it's the closest to any foreign language that I ever got.
Other than than, ouvre le chien.



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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
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French, English, I can almost understand Spanish, Some German


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Patlal] * 1
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English and Spanish. Lil bit of french and some japanese for fun


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: larry.fisherman]
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I only speak English, and can understand a small amount of French if it's written out or spoken slowly. I've never really attempted to speak French to anyone in a real conversation, but I once had a job where this woman who spoke only French was supposed to show me what I was supposed to be doing.


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I actually was trying to learn some Japanese for a while there but looking at that list makes me reconsider. :lol:


From what I've seen, it seems like the written language is especially tough for English speakers. Two different phonetic alphabets, one just for words of foreign origin, and then a shit ton of Chinese characters to memorize. It sounds like the pronunciations are relatively straightforward to learn by ear or when written out in our alphabet though. A limited number of possible syllables, most of which seem to correspond pretty closely to sounds we use in English aside from a consonant sound that's somewhere between our "r" and "l", and it doesn't seem like there are situations like in Chinese where slight changes to some vowel sound would change the meaning entirely or render it gibberish. The grammar I'm pretty clueless about but I think it's not particularly easy for English speakers.

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: psi] * 1
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English & Russian.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: TheUpsideDown]
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I like Russian. It sounds so kewl to my ears :awehigh:

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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They have a pretty badass looking alphabet too.

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: psi]
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Dutch, English, French (mediocre), German (little), some spanish

I actually took a course in Chinese. That was by far the hardest thing I ever tried to learn.

I had twenty classes in total in 2016/2017 and I for real only remember 3 or 4 words


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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I agree french, spanish and portuguese are easy for english speakers. Not so sure about dutch, its closely related to german which is harder but since its a corruption of german it should be simpler just as spanish being a corruption of italian, is easier than italian

german is much harder than the easy languages, unless you mean just speaking broken german, many languages can be spoken that way. I would put german in the 3rd category if you want to speak it correctly. The grammar is a nightmare. I'm just getting to the point I can get it right most of the time and I used to live there. I'm not familiar with the others in 3 so no comment.

4th category is harder, the ones labeled extra hard for english speakers are indeed very hard, some of the others are too

5th is very hard, I studied chinese for a while, its not that hard to simply learn it in the english equivalent, which they do not use in china except perhaps for children. Its not that the grammar is so hard, its the pronunciation, the tones, and above all, the written language. I do disagree that japanese belongs in that category. I do not speak it but have studied it and pronunciation is easy, similar to spanish. The written is hard, perhaps that is why you put it in 5 but from my limited studies, its is not that hard, easier than some of the 4th ones.

I speak 4, have limited under standing of several others. For example italian, since its similar to spanish I can usually figure it out particularly if written, portuguese for the same reason, and a few others like catalan, etc. I would only say I speak anything but english "a little" even though 4 of them I'm fluent in. Fluent does not mean you speak as well as a native. It just means you can carry on a conversation without stopping all the time to think and have a reasonable vocabulary and command of grammar.

Learning a language requires time and dedication, above all practice, practice, practice. When you get to the point you can think in the language instead of thinking in your native language and translating it, you are well on your way to fluency. I run into people who claim to speak 8, 12, or however many but they do not speak them, just a few words, lol.


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stupid thing is, I always liked the English language. I think it stems from my early desire to read books in the language they were written in. I still read English predominantly.

This has caused my thinking language to turn into some sort of retarded English/Dutch mixture :facepalm:


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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Stonehenge]
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english and im  getting pretty good at russian. still have a long way to go though.

I learned french in school and was doing well but i stopped taking it. i can still understand alot of the french parts of labels though.

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Re: Which languages do you speak? [Re: Asante]
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I speak American English only.  I say "American" because I cannot understand British, Australian and other English accents.

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