Near Dylan said: i swear to god if you say the military is harrassing you one more time i will put on an army uniform and kick down your door just so you shit your pants.
The military is not harrassing you, they are not scouring youtube to see if that guy they saw standing in the dark staring at the sky like a retard will upload a video. Just post that shit and try not be overtaken by your delusions.
I get that it's fun to feel important, but jesus christ man do you not see how crazy you sound? The military is after you because you stumbled upon an alien conspiracy? Im starting to think this runs deeper than a casual interest in UFOs.
The government has been known to do psychological experiments with those who buy into this stuff, I mean didn't Richard Doty severely manipulate a good deal of people who research UFOs? The film mentioned below made it seem that way.
Quote: Mirage Men is about how the US government used mythology to cover up their advanced technology. It prominently features Richard Doty, a retired Special Agent who worked for AFOSI, the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigation.[6] Mark Pilkington's book about the project, also called Mirage Men, was published in 2010 by Constable & Robinson -Wikipedia
I have heard stories, I think even from Doty, regarding the government using people in costumes or deformed people to fake abductions and alien encounters. The government would follow these people and basically drive these people mad by convincing them that they were being contacted by extraterrestrials.
It sounds far fetched, but Jesus, look at the kind of things the did during MKULTRA.
Or consider what mckenna mentions below about how the government handled the UFO community:
Quote: I went to a flying saucer convention against my better judgment and I learned more…my opinion about flying saucers evolved more over that weekend than in the previous thirty years of being interested in flying saucers. I read all the books, all the special cases, I knew the data and all that but I had never hung out with flying saucer people. It was so obviously a private Idaho that I just couldn’t wait to get away.
There are two impulses in the human psyche, at least two in this case. I just don’t resonate with believers in anything. I get insulting to Buddhists for God’s sake. It’s just something about their smugness and their whole bit, I just want to squash it. So you can imagine how I behave in the presence of scientologists and the rest of it. Belief is again, it’s a form of infantilism. There are no grounds for believing anything. The flying saucer thing, I went to this conference imagining that what I would meet would be a whole bunch of really interesting sincere people who wanted to discuss the phenomenon of unexplained things in the sky and contacting human beings. What I found was booth after booth of people who had all the answers! Learn how a nearby planet reduced crime by 500%! I got news for you, not even God can reduce crime by 500% once you’ve reduced it by 100%; you’ve got it!
This was the quality of thinking that was going on. Then there were a lot of really scary people in brown leather shoes with thin smiles and cheap suits who were clearly third rate, semi retired intelligence hacks who were there to keep the flock headed in the right direction. People wanted to talk about experiments on human fetal tissue that go on in underground laboratories out in Arizona through the connivance of the CIA and the Pledian high command. And you just think, I’ve just got to call my broker. I’ll get back to you on that. I don’t know. It’s an aesthetic thing. I believe that great weirdness stocks the universe. That’s not the issue with me but it’s not tacky. It is not tacky. People who wear low cut gowns with a lot of sequins on them and tiaras and pass out flying saucer shaped business cards, that’s tacky. So it can’t be so! I know this. I’ve never been wrong. If intelligence fails, aesthetics will pull you through. People don’t like this part of me. I don’t make it comfortable for other squirrels. I don’t share the branch very generously.
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This can be the last thing about flying saucers but let me give you my conclusion from this weekend of how the whole flying saucer thing worked. This is just one person’s opinion but this is how I explain it to myself. As you know in 1947, the Rainer lights appeared and that was the first big modern flying saucer sighting and set off the whole modern flying saucer phenomenon. Well cast your mind back to the ambiance of 1947. The atom bomb was in 1945, the defeat of Germany, the H-bomb was under development, Einstein was advising Truman. People were on the brink of things they could not understand. Nobody knew what the H-bomb really meant. What does it mean that we can do this? They said, we don’t know, maybe the universe is monitored and what we’re doing is so outrageous that maybe it will bring those who do the monitoring. Then they began to get these reports of these things in the sky. My god this must be it. There were very high-level government – secret, secret, secret commissions that were setup and they began to study the flying saucers furiously.
They penetrated all those groups and they penetrated the flying saucer thing from one end to the other and I’m talking 1947 to 1954. They studied it and they studied it and Carl Jung was brought in, and all kinds of people were brought in, and at the end of that period, they concluded that what it was. They actually understood it. They concluded that it was the cosmic giggle. They concluded that it was that un-reducible nub of nuttiness that haunts reality and that it was not a threat to the security of North American air defenses. That was their question. Is this a military problem for us? By 54 or so, they had decided whatever this is – a linguistic virus, a mass hallucination, whatever it is – it is not a problem for the military defense of North America.
But they had spent millions infiltrating and completely taking over the weirdest group of screwballs you can imagine, the flying saucer, hardcore cultists. They said, these people will believe anything. We know that because we’ve been to their meetings. We’ve read their publications. What should we do with them?Should we just withdraw all our agents and let them go back to whatever they are doing and the answer was no. These people will become a pool for experiments in manipulation of information, control of belief systems and response to propaganda. A whole bunch of black box, psychological, programming and informational kinds of research will be done on this pool of people because they’re so weird, if they start telling their relatives that they’re hearing voices in the head or something like that, their relatives and friends are just going to say what else is new. You’ve been talking like this for years. I think it was kept like that right up until the present moment.
I think it’s very low budget. This is not high priority for the CIA. They’re sending, as I’ve said, semi-retired guys in scuffed brown shoes who are definitely over the hill. But they shepherd the group along and as you said, they release these outlandish documents and then they pull them back. Some guy comes forward and says it’s all a fraud and I know because I was on the inside and I was the one paid to tell you all these things and then somebody else comes forward and says no – he’s a walk in and has an implant and it wasn’t that way at all. It’s sort of like the JFK assassination. There is no bedrock there. There is no ground zero and I find these things sort of spooky. I think it’s bad mental hygiene to spend too much time with squirrels.
-terence Mckenna
The funny thing is, terence is accused of doing this exact job, but regarding the psychedelic community rather than the UFO community...
Quote: when I reached La Charerra in 1971 I had a price on my head by the FBI, I was running out of money, I was at the end of my rope. And then “THEY” recruited me. And said, you know, with a mouth like yours there’s a place for you in our organization. And, uh, I’ve worked in deep background positions about which the less said the better. And then about 15 years ago they shifted me into public relations and I’ve been there to the present.” – Terence McKenna
In the context of the lecture where terence made this comment you would think he was talking about the machine elves from hyperspace, and not the CIA, But mckenna was a language man, and knew how to say things covertly.
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