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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6549080 - 02/09/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Actually the moon is slowly pulling away from the earth because its momentum is greater than the earths gravitational pull..
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6549083 - 02/09/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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why are some focused huge and some focused so small if its sucha minute distance from the camera?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#6549105 - 02/09/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Actually the moon is slowly pulling away from the earth because its momentum is greater than the earths gravitational pull..
What?
then how did i t get cought into it in the first place ro do u belive god put the moon there from planet earth
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6549117 - 02/09/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Twister said: The astronaut said that the debris was flying with them, which means it is close to the ship, which means it's not moving very fast.
what is ood about this is that the debreese once moveing shouldnt ever stop untill they get cought in something so since the tether was so far away its self just how much debri can be near this ship hmmmm
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549119 - 02/09/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
It moves about 4 centimeters away per year.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#6549124 - 02/09/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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my anthropology teacher wont even acept wikipedia work.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549133 - 02/09/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The Moon's orbit (its circular path around the Earth) is indeed getting larger, at a rate of about 3.8 centimeters per year. (The Moon's orbit has a radius of 384,000 km.) I wouldn't say that the Moon is getting closer to the Sun, specifically, though--it is getting farther from the Earth, so, when it's in the part of its orbit closest to the Sun, it's closer, but when it's in the part of its orbit farthest from the Sun, it's farther away.
The reason for the increase is that the Moon raises tides on the Earth. Because the side of the Earth that faces the Moon is closer, it feels a stronger pull of gravity than the center of the Earth. Similarly, the part of the Earth facing away from the Moon feels less gravity than the center of the Earth. This effect stretches the Earth a bit, making it a little bit oblong. We call the parts that stick out "tidal bulges." The actual solid body of the Earth is distorted a few centimeters, but the most noticable effect is the tides raised on the ocean.
Now, all mass exerts a gravitational force, and the tidal bulges on the Earth exert a gravitational pull on the Moon. Because the Earth rotates faster (once every 24 hours) than the Moon orbits (once every 27.3 days) the bulge tries to "speed up" the Moon, and pull it ahead in its orbit. The Moon is also pulling back on the tidal bulge of the Earth, slowing the Earth's rotation. Tidal friction, caused by the movement of the tidal bulge around the Earth, takes energy out of the Earth and puts it into the Moon's orbit, making the Moon's orbit bigger (but, a bit pardoxically, the Moon actually moves slower!).
The Earth's rotation is slowing down because of this. One hundred years from now, the day will be 2 milliseconds longer than it is now.
This same process took place billions of years ago--but the Moon was slowed down by the tides raised on it by the Earth. That's why the Moon always keeps the same face pointed toward the Earth. Because the Earth is so much larger than the Moon, this process, called tidal locking, took place very quickly, in a few tens of millions of years.
Many physicists considered the effects of tides on the Earth-Moon system. However, George Howard Darwin (Charles Darwin's son) was the first person to work out, in a mathematical way, how the Moon's orbit would evolve due to tidal friction, in the late 19th century. He is usually credited with the invention of the modern theory of tidal evolution.
So that's where the idea came from, but how was it first measured? The answer is quite complicated, but I've tried to give the best answer I can, based on a little research into the history of the question.
There are three ways for us to actually measure the effects of tidal friction.
* Measure the change in the length of the lunar month over time.
This can be accomplished by examining the thickness of tidal deposits preserved in rocks, called tidal rhythmites, which can be billions of years old, although measurements only exist for rhythmites that are 900 million years old. As far as I can find (I am not a geologist!) these measurements have only been done since the early 90's.
* Measure the change in the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
This is accomplished in modern times by bouncing lasers off reflectors left on the surface of the Moon by the Apollo astronauts. Less accurate measurements were obtained in the early 70's.
* Measure the change in the rotational period of the Earth over time.
Nowadays, the rotation of the Earth is measured using the Very Long Baseline Interferometry, a technique using many radio telescopes a great distance apart. With VLBI, the positions of quasars (tiny, distant, radio-bright objects) can be measured very accuarately. Since the rotating Earth carries the antennas along, these measurements can tell us the rotation speed of the Earth very accurately.
However, the change in the Earth's rotational period was first measured using eclipses, of all things. Astronomers who studied the timing of eclipses over many centuries found that the Moon seemed to be accelerating in its orbit, but what was actually happening was the the Earth's rotation was slowing down. The effect was first noticed by Edmund Halley in 1695, and first measured by Richard Dunthorne in 1748--though neither one really understood what they were seeing. I think this is the earliest discovery of the effect.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=124
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#6549138 - 02/09/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean you could be rite but first concider how moons and plannets are supposedly made this is the latest I have heard on planet creation If I am out of date then my whole proception is off.
Ok so basicaly we got a sun no planets yet
but we got massive tiny particles disperseing from the begining of the universes creation or something, and over a huge amount of years these particles get cought in the gravity and start forming rocks and chunks and astroyed belts and also astroyeds themselves can sometimes land in a astroid belt to,
but that belt of ourse is slowly compressing into a plannet, and i dont see how the moon could be getting farther away if its a buncha peaces compressed by the earths gravity long long ago.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549145 - 02/09/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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ahh so the moon is slowing the earth down er my bad got backwards, anyway in tern its fucken the rotation. that is weird. its like someone passing to the rite around here
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549149 - 02/09/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The problem with your argument is that you assume the moon came into Earth's orbit from a distance. The most likely theory of how the moon came to be is that something large impacted the Earth and released material into orbit around Earth that condensed into what is now the moon.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Viveka]
#6549151 - 02/09/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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that could be but i think we would have a lot of evidence to find one day if this is true but hey we may dig it up.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6550994 - 02/10/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD you need to learn to debate without being abusive. Your whole "vibe" most likely scared people from stating they're own opinions. If you wanna act like that please go to the OTD where your welcomed to do so.
Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551054 - 02/10/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
 You still beating this dead horse, huh? Whoever made that 'analysis' is a complete idiot.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6551089 - 02/10/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The thing about this subject is I can pull anything out of my ass.
Watch this I am digging deep as fuck rite now.
Alright I found one.
The UFO's are UFO's cause there unidentified objects, we DO NOT know what they are for sure, no one has told us from the craft and apparently they dont know or something.
So then since aliens are so secretive cause there so smart and shit
It must be things getting pulled out of another dimension in space its clear because they just kinda come out of nowere and the teather is createing electicity and in space shit that we dont know not nothing about is happening and weird dimension shits going on the electical is clearly pulling stuff out of the other dimensions and warping them into ours then becomeing vissible to our human eye.
mewhoahhahawhahwhahaha
lays out 3 nice white lines.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6551297 - 02/10/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
 You still beating this dead horse, huh? Whoever made that 'analysis' is a complete idiot.
Explain how who wrote those are idiots.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! *DELETED* [Re: Rahie]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551376 - 02/10/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well the footage from these videos are in fact from NASA.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551382 - 02/10/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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how do we know that becuase it was labled like that on you tube... becuase i swear ive seen some videos labled horribly wrong....
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551386 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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the tether video is a recording of a 1996 NASA columbia space mission called STS-75.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551387 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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roby000 said: how do we know that becuase it was labled like that on you tube... becuase i swear ive seen some videos labled horribly wrong....
The videos are not only on youtube. This is a well known nasa video.
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