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Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date!
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547466 - 02/09/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats not how you embed Rahie. Post the link and I'll show you how its done.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: despisedicon]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547484 - 02/09/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have to take out a little junk and add an extra slash/. Quote mine to see the difference.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547492 - 02/09/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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UFO? They know what the thing is... and all the rest of that shit is space debris.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: despisedicon]
#6547494 - 02/09/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547502 - 02/09/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude space debris isn't that big. Yeah the long skinny thing is a tether. The tether is 80 miles away from the space shuttle, and the tether is 12 miles long. So that makes the "debris" pretty fucking big. Don't you thing they would be worried about getting hit by all the debris flying around?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547513 - 02/09/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The debris isn't really that big. Have you ever used a telescope and pointed it at a star? Ok, now try and focus the telescope as much as you can. The same thing happens with video cameras. Put the camera in outer space and you get the same phenomena with pieces of space debris that are reflecting sunlight. All of that space debris isn't right next to the tether, anyways.
And yes, they are worried about getting hit by space debris. There are people that do nothing but track space debris all day. With every new launch we bring in even more debris.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6547515 - 02/09/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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What do others think?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547523 - 02/09/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude! they should like totally beam you up and take you away from all this crazy nonsense* be free brother..... be free
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547524 - 02/09/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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All I'm saying is if I went around shouting "UFO! UFO!" every time I saw an unfocused blob of light I'd probably have my very own cell complete with padding.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6547527 - 02/09/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive seen this footage before, def not space debris. they move in intelligent vectors, not just gravitational slingshotting. Theres a whole hr long video of tons of nasa footage of random glowing things flying around. In one of them the nasa commentator was like "You can now see the space station in the center of your screen [bright glowing thing]", the camera keeps panning and targets another object, commentator says the same thing bout the new object, eventually the camera operator finds the real spacestation amoungst the UFOs flying around. name of video if u can find it on p2p is "the secret nasa transmissions"
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Eightball]
#6547536 - 02/09/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Intelligent vectors? They are all moving in straight lines in this video. Retards in wheelchairs can move in straight lines. Since when have straight lines become "intelligent vectors"?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6547552 - 02/09/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Listen to this, astronauts seeing ufo's
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547603 - 02/09/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's nothing there that is worth anything to the field of science. I definitely don't dismiss the possibility of alien existence or anything, but until there is a publicized study on undeniable physical evidence, the videos and audio are worth nothing more than a basis for speculation.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Hix]
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the interesting thing about the proving aliens exist is like you said physical evidence...and the problem is that if their ever was or will be any proof it "will" be swooped up by the governments for testing and will never be allowed to see the light of day after that.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6547615 - 02/09/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont know but I love your poo shooom
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Hix]
#6547629 - 02/09/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can't distinguish between an 'intelligent vector' and the gravitaional movement over such a short distance, I would be interested in seeing your workup of that one
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Eightball]
#6547670 - 02/09/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Eightball said: ive seen this footage before, def not space debris. they move in intelligent vectors, not just gravitational slingshotting. Theres a whole hr long video of tons of nasa footage of random glowing things flying around. In one of them the nasa commentator was like "You can now see the space station in the center of your screen [bright glowing thing]", the camera keeps panning and targets another object, commentator says the same thing bout the new object, eventually the camera operator finds the real spacestation amoungst the UFOs flying around. name of video if u can find it on p2p is "the secret nasa transmissions"
Some of these objects in similar videos are moving away from the earth and it's gravity which is impossible without some kind of propulsion. You see some that look like meteors burning up but they're way above our atmosphere,, they should be invisible. Then there's others in our atmosphere that burn for way too long.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Mike_yy]
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Eightball said: ive seen this footage before, def not space debris. they move in intelligent vectors, not just gravitational slingshotting. Theres a whole hr long video of tons of nasa footage of random glowing things flying around. In one of them the nasa commentator was like "You can now see the space station in the center of your screen [bright glowing thing]", the camera keeps panning and targets another object, commentator says the same thing bout the new object, eventually the camera operator finds the real spacestation amoungst the UFOs flying around. name of video if u can find it on p2p is "the secret nasa transmissions"
Some of these objects in similar videos are moving away from the earth and it's gravity which is impossible without some kind of propulsion. You see some that look like meteors burning up but they're way above our atmosphere,, they should be invisible. Then there's others in our atmosphere that burn for way too long.
Weird !
Do you even know the position of the person operating the camera relative to the earth? Not everything orbits the Earth in the same direction, especially not space debris.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548608 - 02/09/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Dude space debris isn't that big. Yeah the long skinny thing is a tether. The tether is 80 miles away from the space shuttle, and the tether is 12 miles long. So that makes the "debris" pretty fucking big. Don't you thing they would be worried about getting hit by all the debris flying around?
That's just debris from the tether breaking. There was no doubt a ton of tension on the tether and when it broke thousand of miniscule pieces of debris would have been releases. In the video the astronaut says that the tether is moving into sunlight(as in the sun is "rising" behind it) which means every little piece of debris would be backlit and show up clear as day. All it takes is some critical thinking and most UFO bs goes straight out the window.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Eightball]
#6548612 - 02/09/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Eightball said: ive seen this footage before, def not space debris. they move in intelligent vectors
Haha, intelligent vectors.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6548622 - 02/09/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not from 80 miles away dude
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548634 - 02/09/07 07:47 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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What? What "not from 80 miles away?"
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548647 - 02/09/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Not from 80 miles away dude
The tether broke very close to the ship, dude. If those "UFOs" were at the same distance as the tether they would be in focus when the camera focused on the tether. However they are merely out of focus blobs because they are so close to the camera.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548655 - 02/09/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The debris is not 80 miles away. It is tiny pieces floating around in the foreground. You obviously don't have a lot of experience playing with a videocamera huh?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6548665 - 02/09/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Not from 80 miles away dude
The debris is not 80 miles away. It is tiny pieces floating around in the foreground. You obviously don't have a lot of experience playing with a videocamera huh?
the astronaut even says it's 80 miles away.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548666 - 02/09/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Listen to what Twister said. If you combine very elementary knowledge of outer space, physics, and video cameras it isn't hard to come to the obvious conclusion. If you can't tell the difference in that video from unfocused blobs resulting from very close particles to particles focused as much as the tether then you need a better working knowledge of cameras and lenses.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6548667 - 02/09/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, the commentator even says it is in the foreground and that the debris "flies with us".
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548669 - 02/09/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Not from 80 miles away dude
The debris is not 80 miles away. It is tiny pieces floating around in the foreground. You obviously don't have a lot of experience playing with a videocamera huh?
the astronaut even says it's 80 miles away.
The TETHER is 80 miles away from the shuttle, but when it broke off from the shuttle it produced debris right there in addition to the countless other pieces already floating around.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548674 - 02/09/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, he says the tether is 80 miles away and he says the debris is flying with them. As in, near the ship.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6548676 - 02/09/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I've got to get out of this place. The pub is like Billy Madison's speech about the dog that lost its way when he is competing with Eric at the end of the movie.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6548678 - 02/09/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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He wants to believe it was a real UFO so badly.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6548679 - 02/09/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some of the "debris" is behind the tether. The tether is 12 miles long, our space ships aren't capable of caring things that large in size.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6548686 - 02/09/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amen to that.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548690 - 02/09/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Some of the "debris" is behind the tether. The tether is 12 miles long, our space ships aren't capable of caring things that large in size.
Seriously. What the FUCK are you trying to say? Do even have a basic knowledge of outer space, physics, light, cameras, or anything else related to the discussion at hand?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6548709 - 02/09/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't either. I am trying to say those are some huge fucking UFO's, and by what you have said it is obvious you have no idea and sound pretty ignorant.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6548712 - 02/09/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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not ufo. they all move at constant rates and in one direction. those would either be the stupidest ufs ever or its just space dibrits that have halos around them because they are being viewed at a distance
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: notapillow]
#6548718 - 02/09/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ummm actually they some speed up and slow down so you are incorrect.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548720 - 02/09/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're either trolling or on the very low end of the IQ scale. Perhaps both.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548722 - 02/09/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The debris is not large! The debris is not behind the tether! The debris is not 80 miles away!
But you'll continue to believe what you want. That much is obvious from this thread.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6548727 - 02/09/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Umm yes it is, watch the video and pay attention, don't be a dumbass.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6548729 - 02/09/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD said: You're either trolling or on the very low end of the IQ scale. Perhaps both.
Oh because you don't agree with me so you gotta act like your in OTD Go to OTD where is is acceptable to be a negative bastard.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548730 - 02/09/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Ummm actually they some speed up and slow down so you are incorrect.
That is completely wrong! Watch the fucking video again. Every piece of debris moves at different speeds, but they each have a constant velocity. Not a single on "speed up AND slow down", nor do they slow down, then speed up.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6548733 - 02/09/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeuLDJJFVeM&mode=related&search=
watch that video its from a proigram about flying saucers and it uses that video as evidense. honestly there have been alot more unbelivable and better recorded ufo sightings.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6548736 - 02/09/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh because you don't agree with me so you gotta act like your in OTD Go to OTD where is is acceptable to be a negative bastard.
I'm not acting like I'm in OTD. I'm making a simple scientific observation. This is something all of your posts seem to lack.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6548740 - 02/09/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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slowing down and speeding up is hard man. Ok on gravity it takes us a long ass time to slow down from 50 mph.
Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
So please i mean wtf we cant even go that fast NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE ITS JUST BUGGING THE FUCK OUT OF ME
NO ONE POST MORE ABOUT ALIENS TILL YOU HAVE AT LEAST A 90% chance of there being aliens to share cause otherwise ur gonna make me watcha stupid fucken video crossing my fingers that every religon is going to be proven 100% wrong.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: notapillow]
#6548741 - 02/09/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow so I am not the only one that has my view, look they included it with the best UFO sightings ever on a show.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6548749 - 02/09/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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budmanman said: slowing down and speeding up is hard man. Ok on gravity it takes us a long ass time to slow down from 50 mph.
Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
So please i mean wtf we cant even go that fast NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE ITS JUST BUGGING THE FUCK OUT OF ME
NO ONE POST MORE ABOUT ALIENS TILL YOU HAVE AT LEAST A 90% chance of there being aliens to share cause otherwise ur gonna make me watcha stupid fucken video crossing my fingers that every religon is going to be proven 100% wrong.
good points
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
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budmanman said: slowing down and speeding up is hard man. Ok on gravity it takes us a long ass time to slow down from 50 mph.
Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
good points
Ummmm, no. Same silly points you made. It amazes me how little some peoples understanding of physics, lighting and optics are.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6548803 - 02/09/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
For one, there is gravity in space.
Secondly the debris is near the camera, not the tether, therefore the speeds are MUCH slower than 7 miles a second. Probably about a meter per second at best.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
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But you'll continue to believe what you want. That much is obvious from this thread.
I'm glad not everyone in here completely lacks critical thinking ability.
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the people talking to each other in the video dont seem very phased by the objects.
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what leaves me not convinced is the fact that none of the objects seem to change their speeds suddenly, or even gradually. they float around space just like i'd expect space debris to.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Drewwyann]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
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ToTheSummit said: The debris is not large! The debris is not behind the tether! The debris is not 80 miles away!
But you'll continue to believe what you want. That much is obvious from this thread.
I'm glad not everyone in here completely lacks critical thinking ability.
Looks like the debris is behind the tether to me.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Revelation]
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What does that matter? There is debris literally everywhere in near-earth orbit. A lot of debris in that video is stuff that has been there for a long time so naturally, from the viewer's vantage point, it is behind the tether.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Revelation]
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Only some of it appears that way and it's easily explainable. It's due to the backlighting and the fact that the tether is much more brightly lit than the miniscule pieces of debris. For example, if there's dust in the air which is backlit by say, a flourescent light, it will appear to disappear as it passes in front of the light. It's just an optical illusion.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Revelation]
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this is not the craziest ufo footage i have seen to date. it definitely looks like space debris to me.
i've seen quite a few UFO sightings from NASA feeds which are quite interesting indeed, but this is not one of them.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
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You better watch it with the flames or your ass is going to be banned.
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budmanman said: slowing down and speeding up is hard man. Ok on gravity it takes us a long ass time to slow down from 50 mph.
Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
For one, there is gravity in space.
Secondly the debris is near the camera, not the tether, therefore the speeds are MUCH slower than 7 miles a second. Probably about a meter per second at best.
So what do you weigh in space?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
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DNKYD said: What does that matter? There is debris literally everywhere in near-earth orbit. A lot of debris in that video is stuff that has been there for a long time so naturally, from the viewer's vantage point, it is behind the tether.
Logic, people. Logic. Learn it, use it, love it.
How can there be tons of stuff near earths orbit for a very long time when earth is moveing all the time and pulling all deprese in its gravitational pull toward it. So in other words once a debre gets to close to earth it will be burn or what ever in our atmosphere, space is really really empty if I am not mistaken but everything iv learned about space is just how empty it is.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549001 - 02/09/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You do realize that the moon is in orbit around the Earth because of gravity right? Orbit is merely a form of perpetual free fall which is counteracted by tangential motion. You don't weigh anyting in orbit because the centrifugal force due to rotational motion cancels out the force of gravity.
Elementary physics my dear watson.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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Not to be an ass, but it is in a sense a UFO. We have all given UFO to mean alien spaceship with aliens in it. It only means unidentified flying object. And if I don't know what that object is, it's a UFO. Anything can be a UFO. What they call space debris used to be or still is an object of some sort. I can call the couch I threw out last week "space debris" because that's what it was to me. To another, if they had never seen a couch before in their life, might call it an unidentifiable object (not a flying one). And a third person might call it what it is, a couch.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: trippindad82]
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you dont weigh anything because there isnt an object with a measurable amount of gravity, but since u are in propetual motion in space because ur on a planet going really fast once u leave the planet ur still moveing really fast just the planet is moveing at the same speed otherwise we would go in space and the planet would ditch us.
but we are caught in a slow slow spiral toward the sun, but im talking about general space and general otherwise you could just say oh yea well were also caught in the gravitational pull of other galaxies and say a true statement and still be useless.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
#6549015 - 02/09/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm done with this thread. I can only read so many posts lacking elementary knowledge and logic.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: trippindad82]
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trippindad82 said: Not to be an ass, but it is in a sense a UFO. We have all given UFO to mean alien spaceship with aliens in it. It only means unidentified flying object. And if I don't know what that object is, it's a UFO. Anything can be a UFO.
Yes, that's technically true, but it seems that there's almost always an implication of alien intelligence when people talk about UFOs.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549019 - 02/09/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Please go read a physics book so I don't have to explain this stuff to you. There is gravity and the motion that matters with regards to orbit is tangential with relation to the Earth. The planet wouldn't ditch us because of gravity Seriously, this stuff is very elementary.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
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all i was saying is there is no way to ever know what thoughs are for sure 100%,
are you trying to say that u know 100% sure that there debris?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549027 - 02/09/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely looks like debris to me. The strange lights that appear over phoenix from time to time are more interesting.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: DNKYD]
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Yeah, it's like trying to teach a dog to read.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6549035 - 02/09/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not reading this thread but I will say that this was not the "Craziest UFO footage". The video was boring and it was not a UFO. It was space rocks.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
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Twister said: Please go read a physics book so I don't have to explain this stuff to you. There is gravity and the motion that matters with regards to orbit is tangential with relation to the Earth. The planet wouldn't ditch us because of gravity Seriously, this stuff is very elementary.
You do realize that the moon is in orbit around the Earth because of gravity right?
Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Are you tyring to tell me that if I turn my ship off its gonna get pulled toward the planet real fast unless i go into orbit.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549041 - 02/09/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course not but all signs do point to debris from the tether breaking. All you can do is look at the available evidence and make an intelligent conclusiion from that. There is absoutely no evidence that the specks of light are some sort of intelligently controlled space crafts.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
#6549052 - 02/09/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD said: I'm done with this thread. I can only read so many posts lacking elementary knowledge and logic.
Yeah, it's like trying to teach a dog to read.
slowing down and speeding up is hard man. Ok on gravity it takes us a long ass time to slow down from 50 mph.
Were talking about gravity none existing space.
at the rate that they are moveing past that tether
being 12 miles or what ever long, there going like 7 miles a second.
So please i mean wtf we cant even go that fast NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE ITS JUST BUGGING THE FUCK OUT OF ME
NO ONE POST MORE ABOUT ALIENS TILL YOU HAVE AT LEAST A 90% chance of there being aliens to share cause otherwise ur gonna make me watcha stupid fucken video crossing my fingers that every religon is going to be proven 100% wrong.
For one, there is gravity in space.
Secondly the debris is near the camera, not the tether, therefore the speeds are MUCH slower than 7 miles a second. Probably about a meter per second at best.
meter per second ok dude u dont know that for sure that there that close thats what this was about not fucken gravity anyway its hard to slow down in gravity adn that was the point u just love argueing but this isnt the otd.
I am on neither side of this argument but saysing that THEY ARE what they are when you cant 100% prove it is pointless
wich now brings me back to the bold part of what i said.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549062 - 02/09/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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So... if there are aliens out there do you guys think they'd specially build hollywood looking circular crafts (UFO's) before coming to visit to help ease the tension a bit?
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You do realize that the moon is in orbit around the Earth because of gravity right?
Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Are you tyring to tell me that if I turn my ship off its gonna get pulled toward the planet real fast unless i go into orbit.
Seriously read a physics book because I'm not going to hold your hand an walk you through this stuff. Without sufficient tangential motion an object will be in free fall toward the center of the Earth and will fall out of orbit. It's as simple as that. It's the reason satellites in low Earth orbit require a source of fuel to keep them in orbit.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6549070 - 02/09/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The astronaut said that the debris was flying with them, which means it is close to the ship, which means it's not moving very fast.
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budmanman said: Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Actually the moon is slowly pulling away from the earth because its momentum is greater than the earths gravitational pull..
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Twister]
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why are some focused huge and some focused so small if its sucha minute distance from the camera?
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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budmanman said: Yea the moons trying to fly by the earth but just spinning around it cause theres just enough gravity to barly hold it there and since its holding it that now means that its real slowly pulling the moon toward it but so slow that it doesnt matter.
Actually the moon is slowly pulling away from the earth because its momentum is greater than the earths gravitational pull..
What?
then how did i t get cought into it in the first place ro do u belive god put the moon there from planet earth
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Twister said: The astronaut said that the debris was flying with them, which means it is close to the ship, which means it's not moving very fast.
what is ood about this is that the debreese once moveing shouldnt ever stop untill they get cought in something so since the tether was so far away its self just how much debri can be near this ship hmmmm
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
It moves about 4 centimeters away per year.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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my anthropology teacher wont even acept wikipedia work.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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The Moon's orbit (its circular path around the Earth) is indeed getting larger, at a rate of about 3.8 centimeters per year. (The Moon's orbit has a radius of 384,000 km.) I wouldn't say that the Moon is getting closer to the Sun, specifically, though--it is getting farther from the Earth, so, when it's in the part of its orbit closest to the Sun, it's closer, but when it's in the part of its orbit farthest from the Sun, it's farther away.
The reason for the increase is that the Moon raises tides on the Earth. Because the side of the Earth that faces the Moon is closer, it feels a stronger pull of gravity than the center of the Earth. Similarly, the part of the Earth facing away from the Moon feels less gravity than the center of the Earth. This effect stretches the Earth a bit, making it a little bit oblong. We call the parts that stick out "tidal bulges." The actual solid body of the Earth is distorted a few centimeters, but the most noticable effect is the tides raised on the ocean.
Now, all mass exerts a gravitational force, and the tidal bulges on the Earth exert a gravitational pull on the Moon. Because the Earth rotates faster (once every 24 hours) than the Moon orbits (once every 27.3 days) the bulge tries to "speed up" the Moon, and pull it ahead in its orbit. The Moon is also pulling back on the tidal bulge of the Earth, slowing the Earth's rotation. Tidal friction, caused by the movement of the tidal bulge around the Earth, takes energy out of the Earth and puts it into the Moon's orbit, making the Moon's orbit bigger (but, a bit pardoxically, the Moon actually moves slower!).
The Earth's rotation is slowing down because of this. One hundred years from now, the day will be 2 milliseconds longer than it is now.
This same process took place billions of years ago--but the Moon was slowed down by the tides raised on it by the Earth. That's why the Moon always keeps the same face pointed toward the Earth. Because the Earth is so much larger than the Moon, this process, called tidal locking, took place very quickly, in a few tens of millions of years.
Many physicists considered the effects of tides on the Earth-Moon system. However, George Howard Darwin (Charles Darwin's son) was the first person to work out, in a mathematical way, how the Moon's orbit would evolve due to tidal friction, in the late 19th century. He is usually credited with the invention of the modern theory of tidal evolution.
So that's where the idea came from, but how was it first measured? The answer is quite complicated, but I've tried to give the best answer I can, based on a little research into the history of the question.
There are three ways for us to actually measure the effects of tidal friction.
* Measure the change in the length of the lunar month over time.
This can be accomplished by examining the thickness of tidal deposits preserved in rocks, called tidal rhythmites, which can be billions of years old, although measurements only exist for rhythmites that are 900 million years old. As far as I can find (I am not a geologist!) these measurements have only been done since the early 90's.
* Measure the change in the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
This is accomplished in modern times by bouncing lasers off reflectors left on the surface of the Moon by the Apollo astronauts. Less accurate measurements were obtained in the early 70's.
* Measure the change in the rotational period of the Earth over time.
Nowadays, the rotation of the Earth is measured using the Very Long Baseline Interferometry, a technique using many radio telescopes a great distance apart. With VLBI, the positions of quasars (tiny, distant, radio-bright objects) can be measured very accuarately. Since the rotating Earth carries the antennas along, these measurements can tell us the rotation speed of the Earth very accurately.
However, the change in the Earth's rotational period was first measured using eclipses, of all things. Astronomers who studied the timing of eclipses over many centuries found that the Moon seemed to be accelerating in its orbit, but what was actually happening was the the Earth's rotation was slowing down. The effect was first noticed by Edmund Halley in 1695, and first measured by Richard Dunthorne in 1748--though neither one really understood what they were seeing. I think this is the earliest discovery of the effect.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=124
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I mean you could be rite but first concider how moons and plannets are supposedly made this is the latest I have heard on planet creation If I am out of date then my whole proception is off.
Ok so basicaly we got a sun no planets yet
but we got massive tiny particles disperseing from the begining of the universes creation or something, and over a huge amount of years these particles get cought in the gravity and start forming rocks and chunks and astroyed belts and also astroyeds themselves can sometimes land in a astroid belt to,
but that belt of ourse is slowly compressing into a plannet, and i dont see how the moon could be getting farther away if its a buncha peaces compressed by the earths gravity long long ago.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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ahh so the moon is slowing the earth down er my bad got backwards, anyway in tern its fucken the rotation. that is weird. its like someone passing to the rite around here
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
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The problem with your argument is that you assume the moon came into Earth's orbit from a distance. The most likely theory of how the moon came to be is that something large impacted the Earth and released material into orbit around Earth that condensed into what is now the moon.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Viveka]
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that could be but i think we would have a lot of evidence to find one day if this is true but hey we may dig it up.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: budmanman]
#6550994 - 02/10/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD you need to learn to debate without being abusive. Your whole "vibe" most likely scared people from stating they're own opinions. If you wanna act like that please go to the OTD where your welcomed to do so.
Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
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Rahie said: Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
 You still beating this dead horse, huh? Whoever made that 'analysis' is a complete idiot.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6551089 - 02/10/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The thing about this subject is I can pull anything out of my ass.
Watch this I am digging deep as fuck rite now.
Alright I found one.
The UFO's are UFO's cause there unidentified objects, we DO NOT know what they are for sure, no one has told us from the craft and apparently they dont know or something.
So then since aliens are so secretive cause there so smart and shit
It must be things getting pulled out of another dimension in space its clear because they just kinda come out of nowere and the teather is createing electicity and in space shit that we dont know not nothing about is happening and weird dimension shits going on the electical is clearly pulling stuff out of the other dimensions and warping them into ours then becomeing vissible to our human eye.
mewhoahhahawhahwhahaha
lays out 3 nice white lines.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: ToTheSummit]
#6551297 - 02/10/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: Here is some gathered analyzes. Here is some more information about the footage: A 12-mile long Tether was deployed by satellite - February, 1996 on STS-75 Space Shuttle Mission - On February 25, 1996, the Tether Experiment produced an overload of electricity and broke the Tether, severing it from the Space Shuttle. 3 days later, February 28, 1996, an astounding event took place, when the shuttle and its crew were separated from the Tether and satellite by over 77 nautical miles, a swarm of UFOs flurried about the Tether and satellite as Space Shuttle Astronaut, Claude Nicollier, took video footage (using a hand-held black & white video camera designed to see into the "Near Ultraviolet" invisible to the human eye) of what appeared to be over fifty, pulsing giant UFOs. Some of the UFOs can be measured as they pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether (using the Tether as a relative measuring device) at over 3 miles in diameter, making them "Independence Day" sized craft. The very fact that the UFOs clearly pass "behind" the 12-mile long Tether and not in front of it, eliminates the possibility of an optical illusion created when a small object passes in front of the camera relative to a far distant background object. Because the facts are clearly visible, these giant discs cannot be smaller than 2-3 miles in diameter.
February 25, 1996 Columbia shuttle STS-75 was trailing a 12 mile long tether to investigate whether electrical could be gathered from space from existing electrical potentials. As it so happened more than ten times the energy was gathered than was anticipated and the tether overheated and broke.
However while filming the experiment,Astronaut Claude Nicolier caught numerous appearances of UFO crafts. These crafts show some stunning details. Note that the tether is between 77-100 nautical miles away from the shuttle Columbia. The tether is 12 miles long. Some of the UFOs pass "behind" the tether which allows us to view and measure their minimum sizes. Some are 2-3 miles minimum diameter!!
Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
 You still beating this dead horse, huh? Whoever made that 'analysis' is a complete idiot.
Explain how who wrote those are idiots.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551376 - 02/10/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well the footage from these videos are in fact from NASA.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551382 - 02/10/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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how do we know that becuase it was labled like that on you tube... becuase i swear ive seen some videos labled horribly wrong....
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551386 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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the tether video is a recording of a 1996 NASA columbia space mission called STS-75.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551387 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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roby000 said: how do we know that becuase it was labled like that on you tube... becuase i swear ive seen some videos labled horribly wrong....
The videos are not only on youtube. This is a well known nasa video.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6551391 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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the first part of the video shows that footage. but the second part of the video looks nothing like the first parts footage.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551394 - 02/10/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The footage is authentic and from NASA. But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous. Debating it is obviously useless, folks will believe what they want to regardless of any logical analysis.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551398 - 02/10/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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rahie...i don't care what anyone says.
i think the governments around the world know aliens exist but won't release the information due to mass hysteria and religious uprising.
who knows if this video is showing aliens? but the chances of their existance is very likely.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551400 - 02/10/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course the existence of aliens is likely, but I don't think evidence of them existing is.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551402 - 02/10/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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[Opinion]But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous.[/opinion]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551405 - 02/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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im not saying that aliens arent out there... i just dont believe this video is authentic, if someone could send a link proving nasa made this entire video and not the first half of it then ill take another serious look at it.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Redstorm]
#6551406 - 02/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think there is 100% conrete evidence.
just not available to the public.
how knows what the US has that is super classified information.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551409 - 02/10/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can think and speculate all you want but it doesn't accomplish anything but looking like someone who believes in something because of blind faith alone.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551416 - 02/10/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: [Opinion]But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous.[/opinion]
Exactly, isn't that what we are all doing here, expressing our opinions on it?
BTW- I still find it amazing that this footage isn't obvious to people. I guess they just want so bad to believe that its UFOs that they refuse to see it for what it is.
...there I go, expressing an opinion again.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Redstorm]
#6551435 - 02/10/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: You can think and speculate all you want but it doesn't accomplish anything but looking like someone who believes in something because of blind faith alone.
I wouldn't call it blind faith.
It a matter of stastics. Seriously... If the government has this evidence would they come out with it...no.
I speculate but it's more than blind faith.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551438 - 02/10/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because all of the assertions made are banking on the observer's perception being correct. Once that assumption is in place, the observer assumes things that are simply not correct, or they are simply assumed to be correct, with no basis other than the observer's perception.
Let me ask you something. How do you or the person who wrote that analysis know the objects are passing behind the tether? Because it appears that way? When you eat mushrooms and the ground starts warping do you assume it's really happening and start yelling at anyone who will listen "We're in an earthquake!"
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Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
If you can't see what a load of crap that is I'm not sure what to say. Again, the observer makes very far reaching assumptions, specifically that the objects can travel 13.5 times the speed of light, because he observes a certain quality of light from his third hand perspective of someone watching a low quality video of something being filmed from a distance in space. How does he know the quality of light he's observing isn't a phenomenon of the camera? And if even if what he was actually observing was a property of the object, how does he know that it indicates that the object could travel 13.5 times the speed of light? The black hole thing he posits is just plain stupid. How does he know the "black hole/dot" is the result of the "central core" (what as opposed to the not-so-central core?) emanating electromagnetic bla blablah? The answer: he doesn't. He pulling this out of his ass.
Don't put so much stock in your perception. And don't buy what people are saying just because they use scientific sounding terms like "emenating electromagnetic waves, or pulsing", "potentials" or "super-luminal". Also, learn how to apply critical thinking to your analysis of things.
http://www.csicop.org/si/9012/critical-thinking.html
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