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roby000
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6551391 - 02/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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the first part of the video shows that footage. but the second part of the video looks nothing like the first parts footage.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551394 - 02/10/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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The footage is authentic and from NASA. But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous. Debating it is obviously useless, folks will believe what they want to regardless of any logical analysis.
[runs in circles with eyes closed and hands over ears] "Don't let the facts get in the way of what I want to believe!"
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: roby000]
#6551398 - 02/10/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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rahie...i don't care what anyone says.
i think the governments around the world know aliens exist but won't release the information due to mass hysteria and religious uprising.
who knows if this video is showing aliens? but the chances of their existance is very likely.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551400 - 02/10/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course the existence of aliens is likely, but I don't think evidence of them existing is.
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Rahie
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551402 - 02/10/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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[Opinion]But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous.[/opinion]
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551405 - 02/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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im not saying that aliens arent out there... i just dont believe this video is authentic, if someone could send a link proving nasa made this entire video and not the first half of it then ill take another serious look at it.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Redstorm]
#6551406 - 02/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think there is 100% conrete evidence.
just not available to the public.
how knows what the US has that is super classified information.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: daytripper05]
#6551409 - 02/10/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can think and speculate all you want but it doesn't accomplish anything but looking like someone who believes in something because of blind faith alone.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551416 - 02/10/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rahie said: [Opinion]But peoples interpretation of it ranges from common-sense to down right ridiculous.[/opinion]
Exactly, isn't that what we are all doing here, expressing our opinions on it?
BTW- I still find it amazing that this footage isn't obvious to people. I guess they just want so bad to believe that its UFOs that they refuse to see it for what it is.
...there I go, expressing an opinion again.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Redstorm]
#6551435 - 02/10/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: You can think and speculate all you want but it doesn't accomplish anything but looking like someone who believes in something because of blind faith alone.
I wouldn't call it blind faith.
It a matter of stastics. Seriously... If the government has this evidence would they come out with it...no.
I speculate but it's more than blind faith.
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Re: Craziest UFO footage I have seen to date! [Re: Rahie]
#6551438 - 02/10/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because all of the assertions made are banking on the observer's perception being correct. Once that assumption is in place, the observer assumes things that are simply not correct, or they are simply assumed to be correct, with no basis other than the observer's perception.
Let me ask you something. How do you or the person who wrote that analysis know the objects are passing behind the tether? Because it appears that way? When you eat mushrooms and the ground starts warping do you assume it's really happening and start yelling at anyone who will listen "We're in an earthquake!"
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Beyond that, some of these UFO's demonstrate electromagnetic wave properties or pulsing which indicate potentials to travel at super-luminal speeds, speeds many times the speed of light. Specifically, 13.5 times the speed of light! These circular crafts appear to have a black hole/dot in the middle, however this black hole/dot is actually the result of the central core of these crafts emanating electromagnetic waves which are much faster than the speed of light itself, thereby prohibiting visible light from reflecting off this surface, making it appear to be a void or hole.
If you can't see what a load of crap that is I'm not sure what to say. Again, the observer makes very far reaching assumptions, specifically that the objects can travel 13.5 times the speed of light, because he observes a certain quality of light from his third hand perspective of someone watching a low quality video of something being filmed from a distance in space. How does he know the quality of light he's observing isn't a phenomenon of the camera? And if even if what he was actually observing was a property of the object, how does he know that it indicates that the object could travel 13.5 times the speed of light? The black hole thing he posits is just plain stupid. How does he know the "black hole/dot" is the result of the "central core" (what as opposed to the not-so-central core?) emanating electromagnetic bla blablah? The answer: he doesn't. He pulling this out of his ass.
Don't put so much stock in your perception. And don't buy what people are saying just because they use scientific sounding terms like "emenating electromagnetic waves, or pulsing", "potentials" or "super-luminal". Also, learn how to apply critical thinking to your analysis of things.
http://www.csicop.org/si/9012/critical-thinking.html
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