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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Because we know what the properties of elements will be based on their position in the periodic table.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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There's nothing to "predict"  about element 115, it's just adding one extra proton to the previous element. Anyone could say that. Moscovium isn't even the name that was on periodic tables that showed 115.

The actual 115 could have exactly zero of the properties that Lazar said it has. And he said it didn't exist on Earth.


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Blabble40]
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His ID in the video said Department of Navel Intelligence.


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Blabble40]
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Thats a cover. To prevent tracing back to Air
Force or the DoE. Its all a cover up.

Did u know the Navy has their own space program?

http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2015/08/31/whats-the-navy-doing-in-space/

Now whats the Navy, ocean faring vessels, have to do with space?

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Does he sound "Crazy"? Or does the science he speak of sound logical and rational?



Actual particle physicists will tell you the dude is crazy.


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Thats part of the cover up.

If u look into Bob Lazars current life, he owns a company called United Nuclear: https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=25&zenid=1djma4b0iu31kcp97qkl65l4o6

Go ahead, order some supplies, its a real site. I cannot, im broke.

Anyway, Bob Lazars business deals with nuclear testing supplies and equipment. Guess what Los Alamos deals with, nuclear testing equipment.

Coincidence? I think not.



Most of the stuff he sells are kitchy novelty items, like a piece of depleted uranium or miniature samples of elements.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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Near Dylan said:
Do you believe that an extra-terrestial species has ever observed, visited, landed on, or  made contact with earth?

Spoiler alert: They haven't

Post your theory, and give some evidence if you can. Try not to make it an hour long documentary. If you have to do that, put timestamps for important information.



spoiler alert: keep looking up

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Enlil] * 2
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Enlil said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Does he sound "Crazy"? Or does the science he speak of sound logical and rational?



Actual particle physicists will tell you the dude is crazy.



That's just a cover


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Does he sound "Crazy"? Or does the science he speak of sound logical and rational?



Actual particle physicists will tell you the dude is crazy.



"Gravity A is what is currently being labeled as the "strong nuclear force" in mainstream physics ...

This is the place where Lazar begins to get him self in real trouble. As it is understood now, the strong nuclear force has NOTHING TO DO WITH GRAVITY. Such a statement shows either a complete lack of understanding of the physics of the Standard Model of particle interactions, or a BLATANT attempt at deception. The equations and coupling strengths which describe the two forces are totally different and unrelated. The strong force couples only to quarks and gluons. The gravitational force couples to all particles with mass. The strong force is extremely short range. The range of gravity is infinite. The gravitational coupling constant is orders of magnitude smaller than that of the strong interaction. There is NO BASIS for using the word "gravity" to describe the strong interaction IN ANY WAY."

Just wanted to explain section. What if our understanding of gravity is wrong? What if there is a new type of gravity that only exists at the atomic level?

The best evidence of UFOs is to see one in action, so get outside and travel to S4 or Dugway or Dulce, camp out a couple nights and tell me u dont see anything strange.

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
What if our understanding of gravity is wrong? What if there is a new type of gravity that only exists at the atomic level?




That very question is addressed in the link:

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I want to take some time here to talk about scientific progress, because there is one common objection to my critique of Lazar’s scenario. People will often say “Modern science could be wrong. Newton was wrong! Lazar could be right!” Yes. That is correct. In fact, modern science almost certainly IS “wrong.” But the only real test of a theory in science is that it works. Newton’s Laws worked. They still do in most situations. Einstein’s theories are better – they are more accurate and they work in more situations. New theories will continue to come along that are more precise and more generally applicable than the older theories, and these new theories will be tested by experiments until they supplant the old ones. That is how science has progressed for the past 400 years.



So it is not enough to SAY  that modern science is wrong. You have to demonstrate that you have something that is better. And that “better” theory needs to do everything that the old theory does, and then do more. And chances are that it won’t completely turn the old theory on it’s head – because we already know that the old theories work too well. It is not possible to create a new theory until you understand the old one well enough to present a coherent alternative. Calling current science “total nonsense” is nice rhetoric, and no doubt convincing to many non-scientists who feel alienated from science and look on scientists as a kind of modern priesthood of arcane knowledge. But science is a process – not a body of knowledge.


I can't possibly demonstrate conclusively that Lazar's mechanism is impossible. All that I can hope to demonstrate here is that his scenario would require a COMPLETE overhaul of our theories of gravity and particle physics in order to work. Not just some minor changes...I'm talking from the ground up. Mr. Lazar makes no mention of this fact, and he proposes no alternative theories. But, if Lazar's scenario is true, then we will NEED some new theories, because we are wrong about a great many things. We don't understand gravity. We don't understand nuclear interactions. We don't understand spacetime. We don't understand stellar evolution. However, considering Mr. Lazar's careless use of language, his casual redefinition of scientific terms, and the complete lack of details in his presentation, I'm willing to bet the farm that it is actually Lazar who doesn't understand any of these things.




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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Enlil]
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The best evidence of UFOs is to see one in action, so get outside and travel to S4 or Dugway or Dulce, camp out a couple nights and tell me u dont see anything strange.



I'm sure. There's probably tons of weird aircraft testing and training going on out west.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: koods] * 2
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Koods, you're being foolish.  Strange = Alien technology

There's no other rational reason that those of us without advanced science degrees can't immediately identify anything we see in the sky.  It has to be alien technology.


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Enlil]
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So what do u guys think of the ID card of Bob Lazar?

www.boblazar.com

It says "Department of Naval Intelligence" on his W2 and his ID badge.

If he was lying, wouldnt it make more sense to put "Department of the Air Force" as Nellis Air Force Base (Area 51) is right next to S4?

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Also check out this news clip: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp11m01338r000400480018-9

Also, why is page two "denied"?

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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LogicaL Chaos said:
So what do u guys think of the ID card of Bob Lazar?

www.boblazar.com

It says "Department of Naval Intelligence" on his W2 and his ID badge.

If he was lying, wouldnt it make more sense to put "Department of the Air Force" as Nellis Air Force Base (Area 51) is right next to S4?



it looks fake as fuck. It is so clearly photoshopped and edited that it's hilarious you just used that as evidence.

LogicaL Chaos said:
Also check out this news clip: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp11m01338r000400480018-9

Also, why is page two "denied"?



do you even realize you just posted a link to article sayinng UFO information will be released by the end of 2013? It's fuckin 2017, genius.
Btw, there isnt a second page.


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Near Dylan]
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Have you even looked through boblazar.com? This guy is for sure on the spectrum.
"Our work day consisted of entering through a gauntlet of gaurd dogs, silently barking due to their vocal chords being cut out"
What the fuck are you talking about, Bob, is this a fucing Stephen King novel?

"Element 116 decays into antimatter"
No. No it does not. How he even came up with this is beyond me.

He claims that the alien craft floats on two separate waves of gravity, and when the gravity gets really strong, the craft disappears. He says "this is why you can see stars behind the sun, because its gravity is so strong"
Really? This was your fool proof evidence? A bumbling autistic person with a less than basic 1980s understanding of science?


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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: Near Dylan]
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:yeahthatsfunny:

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: 1234go]
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Threads over, the shill mod squad is present.

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: fungusmuncher]
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I haven't saw a mod take action on anything in this thread, did I miss something?

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Re: UFOs: Have Aliens Visited Earth [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 4
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I'm spreading disinformation and being paid for it.


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