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Offlinedjd586
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Mushroom Tea Potency Question.
    #2467348 - 03/24/04 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyoe have a basic concept on potency loss when brewing mushrooms in tea? Like 75%, 60%, 50%? If I brewed up 5 grams would it equal a 4 gram trip?

I really like the tea method, it just seems like I'm either overshoot my dosage or undershooting it everytime I do it.


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: djd586]
    #2467385 - 03/24/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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like I'm either overshoot my dosage or undershooting it everytime I do it. 




you just wrote down the answer to your question :wink:

there isn't really a potency loss, but I think you need to eat the shrooms you made the tea with too.


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: djd586]
    #2467714 - 03/24/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

  Negative, else why would you make tea? :smile:

I think brewing time affects it, as well as making sure you shake up your tea if it has settled down for a while.  This is why one batch of 2g tea made the room shift slightly (had fun with friends anyway) and another batch of 2g tea made me question my sanity.

Use lemon in your tea?


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: djd586]
    #2467768 - 03/24/04 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You lose all of the psilocine in the mushrooms since the psilocine is not water soluable and psilocybine is. Also the high comes on within 5-10 minutes usually and ends in two hours. When eaten fresh the high last 4-6 hours and then a pot like high for a few more hours.

It is also too fast for the bodies CNS when eaten in liquid form and shocks the nervous system and causes anxiety and panic anttics aned/or attacks, makes many who get off too fast, uncomfortable.

I have often noted inthe past that when made in the form of a tea, the shroom potion should be taken as if they were fresh or dried shrooms. That is take a 15-20 minute period to drink the tea/soup/smoothie, etc. This causes the come-on to be slow and it comes in ripples and waves.

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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2467921 - 03/24/04 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A trip that ends in 2 hours? Sounds very unlikely to me...

I throw my powder in a soup;
so some of the alkaloids get absorbed as a liquid; and I still eat the rest; so I absorb the rest similar to eating them.

I prefer this method: no nausea, no bad taste; and a very good trip!
As long as you bring them in your system; it's ok! :smile:


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: boeha]
    #2468020 - 03/24/04 05:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd assume it would actually be a very tasty soup boeha :smile:


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: Gorian]
    #2468138 - 03/24/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Gorian said:
I'd assume it would actually be a very tasty soup boeha :smile:




Yep; it ain't all good you know; the shitty taste is still there, but not as strong as eating them straight.
but still; 10 minutes of soup-drinking with only slight neusea; or 40 minutes of normal eating with severe vomiting-mood...
I know what I want; and it's my soup-method  :cool:


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: boeha]
    #2468223 - 03/24/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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boeha said:
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Gorian said:
I'd assume it would actually be a very tasty soup boeha :smile:




Yep; it ain't all good you know; the shitty taste is still there, but not as strong as eating them straight.
but still; 10 minutes of soup-drinking with only slight neusea; or 40 minutes of normal eating with severe vomiting-mood...
I know what I want; and it's my soup-method  :cool:




Yep, my husband puts his mushies in soup.  Its the only way he can consume them without gagging and thus, barfing. 

Me?  I only need a bit of peanut butter.  :cool:


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: MOTH]
    #2468278 - 03/24/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't mind the taste of them too bad. As long as I have something to drink with them, I'm fine.


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: MOTH]
    #2468502 - 03/24/04 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
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boeha said:
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Gorian said:
I'd assume it would actually be a very tasty soup boeha :smile:




Yep; it ain't all good you know; the shitty taste is still there, but not as strong as eating them straight.
but still; 10 minutes of soup-drinking with only slight neusea; or 40 minutes of normal eating with severe vomiting-mood...
I know what I want; and it's my soup-method  :cool:




Yep, my husband puts his mushies in soup.  Its the only way he can consume them without gagging and thus, barfing. 

Me?  I only need a bit of peanut butter.  :cool:




Lucky you :wink:
If I even catch a brief smell of those mushies, I'm already in the mood for some serious vomiting; very annoying indeed :wink:
But as long as I got my recepy, everything is A-OK !!


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2469097 - 03/24/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

While I agree on the benefits of drinking it slowly, and can't make a positive statement on how much potency is lost, my response has to be
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Every trip I've done with tea has matched the trips I've taken on equivalent amounts of dry non-tea mushrooms, the only difference being I don't get nausea. It may have been less potence, but the come-up, peak length and trip length all matched very closely from when I ate them straight.

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mjshroomer said:
Also the high comes on within 5-10 minutes usually and ends in two hours. When eaten fresh the high last 4-6 hours and then a pot like high for a few more hours.

It is also too fast for the bodies CNS when eaten in liquid form and shocks the nervous system and causes anxiety and panic anttics aned/or attacks, makes many who get off too fast, uncomfortable.

I have often noted inthe past that when made in the form of a tea, the shroom potion should be taken as if they were fresh or dried shrooms. That is take a 15-20 minute period to drink the tea/soup/smoothie, etc. This causes the come-on to be slow and it comes in ripples and waves.

mj




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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: valour]
    #2471303 - 03/25/04 04:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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valour said:
While I agree on the benefits of drinking it slowly, and can't make a positive statement on how much potency is lost, my response has to be
sponsored by the letters B and S

Every trip I've done with tea has matched the trips I've taken on equivalent amounts of dry non-tea mushrooms, the only difference being I don't get nausea. It may have been less potence, but the come-up, peak length and trip length all matched very closely from when I ate them straight.

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mjshroomer said:
Also the high comes on within 5-10 minutes usually and ends in two hours. When eaten fresh the high last 4-6 hours and then a pot like high for a few more hours.

It is also too fast for the bodies CNS when eaten in liquid form and shocks the nervous system and causes anxiety and panic anttics aned/or attacks, makes many who get off too fast, uncomfortable.

I have often noted inthe past that when made in the form of a tea, the shroom potion should be taken as if they were fresh or dried shrooms. That is take a 15-20 minute period to drink the tea/soup/smoothie, etc. This causes the come-on to be slow and it comes in ripples and waves.

mj







totally agree, i havn't noticed any drop in potency but its all about how long your strain them for, which for me is about 10-15 minutes in boiling water.


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: beam]
    #2472389 - 03/25/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ditto here.
We put them in mesh tea balls in water that is ~just~ under boiling, with a mint tea bag for about 10 minutes. At Cervante's suggestion we also squirt in a little lemon juice to make the water acidic, which ~might~ help the goodness out.


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: djd586]
    #2472444 - 03/25/04 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when i make tea i boil up some water and lets it cool down for 2-3 minutes before i throw the mushies in it, then i let it be in water till the cup is exactly so hot i can drink up all in three sips. it always works great. and i dont agree with that it makes the trip shorter, its almost the same


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Re: Mushroom Tea Potency Question. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2472468 - 03/25/04 10:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

>Also the high comes on within 5-10 minutes usually and ends in two hours.

I can not confirm this at all.

I make a tea from powdered dry mushrooms by soaking the powder in boiling hot water for 5 minutes under stirring, then straining it and discarding the solids.

Taken on empty stomach the first effects start after 10 minutes, and peak after around 30 minutes.
The trip lasts for about 4-5 hours with several hours afterglow.

This is with 2.5 grams of P. cubensis.


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