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Debtor Prison
    #24004850 - 01/12/17 05:17 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

This seems like such a distant memory as to be laughable.  People now can declare bankruptcy, and in 7 years maximum essentially given a "clean slate".  Property crimes, white collar crime, are largely ignored. 

Why does working hard and saving not reward those that do, while debtors who cost everyone money get let off?


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24004864 - 01/12/17 05:22 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Because if the debtors don't get let off they will gather en masse, kill the rich people and take their stuff.  Better to let them off before they can muster.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: DieCommie]
    #24004872 - 01/12/17 05:24 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Because if the debtors don't get let off they will gather en masse, kill the rich people and take their stuff.  Better to let them off before they can muster.




I think that's martial law, and unlikely to happen although I used to think so.  What's more likely to happen, is helicopter money along with a cashless society.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: DieCommie]
    #24005031 - 01/12/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

rich people would, however, be precluded from membership to said gathering, even if they partook in white-collar crime.

people's sense of value is tantamount to bullshit.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24005708 - 01/12/17 09:51 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Why does working hard and saving not reward those that do, while debtors who cost everyone money get let off?




apparently the universe does not match your idea of justice

of course obviously economic injustice is just one small aspect of a totally unjust or indifferent universe


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24006198 - 01/13/17 04:22 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Because once they've declared bankruptcy they can only loan out a few grand at a time..


Plus you get a sad face on your credit score.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: sudly]
    #24006327 - 01/13/17 06:30 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Because once they've declared bankruptcy they can only loan out a few grand at a time..


Plus you get a sad face on your credit score.




That sucks!  A sad face!

Well debt is so prevalent, I can understand why people don't think it's a problem, and why when people are in debt they don't go to debtor prisons.  There really did used to be debtor prisons, so I didn't just make this up.



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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24006699 - 01/13/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The United States, is in fact, a corporation. 




the debtor made their own prison, now they work to pay off their debt to the state, failure to do so will only increase the debt, leaving you in a state of despair likely to go crazy or commit a crime that will in turn generate more money for the state ... i think they call it residual income.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24006718 - 01/13/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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sudly said:


The United States, is in fact, a corporation. 




the debtor made their own prison, now they work to pay off their debt to the state, failure to do so will only increase the debt, leaving you in a state of despair likely to go crazy or commit a crime that will in turn generate more money for the state ... i think they call it residual income.




The Chinese want California.  They can always turn the water spigot back on, it's theirs to turn.  Or course they will wait until it's their turn.



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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24006729 - 01/13/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

It dosent.  Debtors prison exists.  If you think it dosent you arent looking hard enough.  No youre no shackled to a medieval cell but this is very much alive.  Save that bootstrap shit for the chamber of commerce meeting.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Prem. Kissoff]
    #24006740 - 01/13/17 10:17 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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It dosent.  Debtors prison exists.  If you think it dosent you arent looking hard enough.  No youre no shackled to a medieval cell but this is very much alive.  Save that bootstrap shit for the chamber of commerce meeting.




Well I could serf the internet to find examples pun intended.  Of course we are mostly debt slaves to the grind.  I think the willing slaves are the worst, the ones that work instead of collect welfare.  Pathfuckinetic.

Look at them cheering.

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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24006764 - 01/13/17 10:29 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

if you are forced to wake up and do something you do not like or do not want to do to survive(because most of us dont thrive we survive) than yeah thats forced labor imo, i.e. communist Cuba everybody is poor, but if you do not work you will not starve, if anybody has been to Cuba you will note that there are no homeless people, a problem we know all to well in the states


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24006774 - 01/13/17 10:35 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

but then again this type of think is very toxic, thats why i get high, society is too crazy to handle sober


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24006779 - 01/13/17 10:37 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Its hard to squeeze people for more if they are locked up.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: imanlyman]
    #24006783 - 01/13/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Its hard to squeeze people for more if they are locked up.




100% wrong.  Prisons have people begging to work for literally a dollar an hour.  They just want to be productive, and to have money to buy fucking Top Ramen soup or maybe a TV or some shit.  Work crew isn't something they give just anybody either.  You gotta be on meth and then they give it to you.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24006789 - 01/13/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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if you are forced to wake up and do something you do not like or do not want to do to survive(because most of us dont thrive we survive) than yeah thats forced labor imo, i.e. communist Cuba everybody is poor, but if you do not work you will not starve, if anybody has been to Cuba you will note that there are no homeless people, a problem we know all to well in the states




I spent three months living out of a backpack in Jamaica.  Nobody was starving, they were poor but they ate hella better than in the US.  The food market was amazing, prices of super fresh veggies super cheap.  So yeah, I can imagine in Cuba it's similar.  People grow food and stuff then take a little "money" to buy their necessities and if everything is inexpensive nobody is poor.  Jamaica routinely wins track events, those dudes/chicks are what's known as "athletes".  Eating well is a part of that.

Now that I think of it, Cuba has also been a powerhouse in terms of athletics, given their size.


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24006935 - 01/13/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I spent three months living out of a backpack in Jamaica.  Nobody was starving, they were poor but they ate hella better than in the US.  The food market was amazing, prices of super fresh veggies super cheap.  So yeah, I can imagine in Cuba it's similar.  People grow food and stuff then take a little "money" to buy their necessities and if everything is inexpensive nobody is poor.  Jamaica routinely wins track events, those dudes/chicks are what's known as "athletes".  Eating well is a part of that.

Now that I think of it, Cuba has also been a powerhouse in terms of athletics, given their size.




yup i been to Jamaica i can vouch that their food is A1:thumbup:

good point in these countries money is mainly for clothes bills and what not, i know in Cuba if you live in the rural area you're eating strictly off your land and trading with your neighbors life stock, fruits and veggies for what you lack, we can imagine it as hard or even fantasize about it as easy but thats just a part of living the human experience, sowing and reaping natures rewards

now here is all about the dollar dollar bills yalls and is my credit score 720? i gotta buy a disguise for my friends to notice me lol its a game you gotta have fun hehehe


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24006966 - 01/13/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The women there are A1 sauce, have maybe 2 outfits.  It's not like my GF who came down from the states with 2 freaking duffel bags.  What's with the baggage?  This is what brings on debt, mother freaking baggage.  Almost got me beat up in downtown Kingston carrying her baggage.  You gotta stay light on your feet, mon.

I was the ONLY white boy who smoked the fat spliff at 3 AM among a thousand scared black bois.  I got balls.  Fo sho.

Concert ends 5 AM bottles thrown scared little children ducking.  From what?  An empty Red Stripe?

Courage, or lack of it, has always defined a truly bad ass versus a pussy.  I don't care how big you are, I'll get my shot in.  That's for sure.

Prison, ultimately, is lacking the conviction to live your life the way you know is possible, versus what someone else tells you.

Rebel, or die.  Fucking pussy debt slaves.  Or work your ass offs.





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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24007037 - 01/13/17 12:25 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

dam that sounds like a good time, i enjoy chaos oddly enough, its an degree of liberation.

and red stripe bottle look like they wont shatter so easily that might hurt lol

the tour guides would warn us not to go in the inner city, had i gone solo i might have but i was also accompanied by my significant other, who enjoys her here level of comfort.

but i would smoke herb everywhere there, when the tour bus stopped i would get down light up my J and no one would messed with me. i fucken loved the herb there that real yard weed

the way i see it so long as you live in this country and you are contributing to its norms and standards you will be in debt in one form or another, unless you decide to go off the grid but now that is illegal to do here also,

i just read an article im sure you can find it if you search it up, veteran gets thrown off property for living off grid. and its excatly that a U.S born Army Vet who fought for our liberties is denied the freedom of living a self sustaining lifestyle,

you cant be a defective product, cause you know what happens then...


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Re: Debtor Prison [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24007050 - 01/13/17 12:29 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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dam that sounds like a good time, i enjoy chaos oddly enough, its an degree of liberation.

and red stripe bottle look like they wont shatter so easily that might hurt lol

the tour guides would warn us not to go in the inner city, had i gone solo i might have but i was also accompanied by my significant other, who enjoys her here level of comfort.

but i would smoke herb everywhere there, when the tour bus stopped i would get down light up my J and no one would messed with me. i fucken loved the herb there that real yard weed




yeah one little punk tried fucking with me after i got on the tour bus, and we did get stopped by 2 cars of serious cops but it was weird.  i had a couple little buds, the cops were searching my bag and the buds were there.  I mean, RIGHT THERE.  In plain sight.  Six cops with serious guns.  fortunately, i had my contact lens case and was able to pull my voodoo shit on them.  seriously.  we even joked about it oh your lens case ha ha. 

i don't fuck around, always on my game.  had one other dick try to jack my shit, the girl in charge let me know, it was already hidden.  oddly i carried all the time and never got searched other than that one day.  at night i'd hide my shit, you gotta be cautious.


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