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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Actually this popped up in one of my google searches and it helps provide a tangible example on how complicated (and dependant) an ecosphere is in relatively few words:

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/sahara-keeps-amazon-green/



Prisoner#1 said:
CookieCrumbs said:
Destroying environment = destroying people



destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment

it's the circle of life


The power of self-sustaining cycles on earth is beautiful, no? :lol:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
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Always got a giggle out of this.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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CookieCrumbs said:
Actually this popped up in one of my google searches and it helps provide a tangible example on how complicated (and dependant) an ecosphere is in relatively few words:

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/sahara-keeps-amazon-green/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_oscillation

the thing the IPCC seems to want to deny



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Prisoner#1 said:
CookieCrumbs said:
Destroying environment = destroying people



destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment

it's the circle of life


The power of self-sustaining cycles on earth is beautiful, no? :lol:


if you want to save the world you first have to kill everything on it


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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Well that's basically what we're doing. This is already the highest mass extinction rate we can measure. That alone says that no it's not natural.

But I grant it is extremely difficult to measure such things going back hundreds of millions of years. Still we are set to making earth unlivable for over 90% of its current species. Which is higher if you factor in predicted natural disasters we're due for.

As far as committees like the IPCC - there is no organization that is incorruptible and there will never be complete agreements among specialists. And unfortunately when you're talking about government agencies you cannot present disagreements so while some or even the majority of it's 'members' might think differently they can't really say so.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Its like The Matrix in reverse!

:mindblown:

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods] * 1
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How did I know you fuckers would turn this shit into some global warming/climate change bullshit :lol:

shit got me like

:racethread:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Nifflerz]
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climate change is srs fkn bsns

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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CookieCrumbs said:
Well that's basically what we're doing. This is already the highest mass extinction rate we can measure. That alone says that no it's not natural.



well that's false, we have measured through archeological evidence much larger
mass extinctions and what's going on right now keeps being called mass extinctions
but it's not thousands of species dropping out at a time and many of these animals
such as the dodo, rhinos and many other species, we've hunted them to extinction,
it's not due to our effects on climate or habitat although these things do have an
effect. this isnt mass extinction, at least not yet. we havent seen even 10% of
the species on the planet die off over the last 1000 years


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But I grant it is extremely difficult to measure such things going back hundreds of millions of years. Still we are set to making earth unlivable for over 90% of its current species. Which is higher if you factor in predicted natural disasters we're due for.


no, actually it's pretty easy to measure and we have a pretty good record of mass
extinction events, we know there to have been hundreds of them with tens of
thousands of species dying off in even the smallest of these events



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As far as committees like the IPCC - there is no organization that is incorruptible and there will never be complete agreements among specialists. And unfortunately when you're talking about government agencies you cannot present disagreements so while some or even the majority of it's 'members' might think differently they can't really say so.


the IPCC is nothing but corrupt, it's a political body that has insisted from the
beginning that global warming is anthropogenic and only looks at evidence to that
effect, they refuse to see anything but


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Rate. Extinction rate.
But I suppose it is not a mass extinction yet. Will be most likely. I don't even know if "they" called it a mass extinction or I'm just interjecting projections into 2 separate things.

Which apparently scientific news journals do all the time so I don't feel bad.

But if you're going to discount species that go extinct primarily due to hunting - oh no no we've not lost many species. But human beings hunt anything. For any reason. Even "scientists" that are "trying to save them" do that shit. But in the last 20 years there's been a considerable number of species to come near extinction or actually go extinct due to habitat loss and poor conditions (mostly aquatic life) the numbers are disturbing if nothing else. And there's dozens more that are hanging on to survival with less than 100 individuals. I can think of nearly a dozen that are surviving or thought to be surviving in the wild with less than 10.

Tbh the water life is the most vulnerable  to what we've been doing. The current acidity of ocean water is the highest it has been in 300 million years. The acidity has doubled in half a century. And anyone that's ever had an aquarium should know how sensitive aquatic life can be to ph levels, as well as phosphorus and nitrogen levels. They've actually been dying off in droves since the 50s. It just hasn't been horribly concerning because the ocean was so plentiful... It's not nearly as plentiful now. And a considerable amount of that is due to overfishing. But the quality has also gone to shit. The fish we pull out now are frequently sick and infested with bacteria or chemicals like mercury. They aren't reproducing as much as they should be. They aren't growing as they should be. When you lose almost half of all sea life in less than a century I dunno how you can possibly not be concerned with how livable the planet is going to be in less than another century when consumption and human population has continued to rise.


But I'm glad we can agree the shitbirds that are actually hired to address such issues are mostly worthlesss.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Dudes it snowed there 37 years ago.

This isn't that big of a deal.

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: TNK]
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It's not even about the temperature. It gets fucking cold in North Africa in the winter. What's surprising is the moisture.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
How did I know you fuckers would turn this shit into some global warming/climate change bullshit :lol:

shit got me like

:racethread:


I saw it coming a mile away...

On da Shrooemry, thread topics just arent as simple as u may want....

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
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the earth's wobble effect puts the sahara in the rain belt every 20,000 years
there are actually sea floor type stuff if you search around there used to be massive lakes there that ended up in south africa so you'll see strange fish in oasis from time to time
they know this because the sand goes into the sea and leaves impressions


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
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koods said:
My next door neighbors have a Tesla. It costs less than $10 a month to keep their car changed.




Hey koods, I'm not trying to call you a liar or anything, but this seems like it could be a bit misleading without some additional details.

What model of Tesla do your neighbors drive, and how long is their average commute? How often do they charge the battery?

I'm not denying that electric powered vehicles are far more energy efficient than IC powered ones, but it would seem to me that @ 13.7 c/kWh, it qould cost roughly 8-11 USD for a full charge, giving roughly 200 miles of range, depending on the battery pack installed and driving behaviour.

I'm sure your math is better than mine... care to comment?

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Khii Khwaay]
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They probably use free charging stations where they work too. Parking garages generally don't charge you to hook up to power.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
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Interesting....

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ~50% of Maryland's power generated by coal-fueled plants @around 30% efficiency?

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Khii Khwaay]
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50% coal, 30% nuclear


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It's not even about the temperature. It gets fucking cold in North Africa in the winter. What's surprising is the moisture.



even deserts get rains periodically, the sahara and the gobi are no exceptions


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