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The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.
But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.
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CookieCrumbs said: The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.
But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.
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CookieCrumbs said: idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
Thanks for taking my hopes away... Then again, Florida does have fucked up laws, so it might be a good thing.
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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Patlal]
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You would melt in Florida.
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I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. 
Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.
I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm Heat = sweat and get disgusting and gross and still be hot.
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CookieCrumbs said: I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. 
Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.
I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm Heat = sweat and get disgusting and gross and still be hot.
What hilarious to me is when there's an inch of snow in South Carolina and people raid the grocery stores. What'even more hilarious is when I see them driving and losing control because they have no idea how to drive in snow lol
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CookieCrumbs said: idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
This global warming thing has way bigger implications than fucking destroying the stupid enviroment. Ive been working on a theory thats gonna blow the whole lid off this global warming thing as we know it now. Where are all the crazest shit show places in the world? Lets look at places like africa the middle east florida what do they all have in common theyre hot as balls. Now look at places like canada northern europe northern parts of america. The heat. the heat is making people fucking nuts. WHat happens when the whole world turns into florida. Cant you imagine.thats it game over man.
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You think people being shitty to eachother is because of the heat and not because of the environment most extremely hot climates produce... Like a lack of clean water, food, and dangerous plants and animals need to be hard as fuck to live in such shitholes?
Destroying environment = destroying people
That is the very chain reaction I am talking about my friend. People turn into rabid animals when they feel threatened and limited resources tends to make for a very threatening environment. Hotter climates have less rainfall (or torrential seasonal rainfall) and therefore less readily available food. Less water means less plants and less plants means less animals and all of that means less happy healthy people.
Not that our overconsumption seems to be making us terribly happy and healthy...
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CookieCrumbs said: You think people being shitty to eachother is because of the heat and not because of the environment most extremely hot climates produce... Like a lack of clean water, food, and dangerous plants and animals need to be hard as fuck to live in such shitholes?
Those things probably would be factors as well, but people do tend to get more aggressive and short-tempered when it's hot.
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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: psi]
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This is true. But in oppressive heat people also tend to become lethargic.
Necessity to constantly be seeking resources means being out and active in heat. Our bodies try to encourage us to remain inactive or use as little energy as possible in heat (which is why heat exhaustion is a thing) and fatigue is also known to make people angry. Add hunger on top of that and really it's no surprise people can turn into cruel bastards.
I think that too is a survival mechanism. The body is trying to conserve energy, has little energy to use, but you got shit to do and emotion can be some legitimate fuel when there is nothing else. It motivates us to fight against our nature to rest when we are hot and hungry and tired.
I've read where there's actually a strange combination of strong emotion and emotional detachment that carries people through perilous conditions. Makes sense. You need to be emotionally detached to do whatever you need to do without hesitation to survive but at the same time without emotion there is no motivation to go on.
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One of the pages I was looking at on this had a graph where crime rose with temperature up to about 95 F and then there was a big drop-off after that. Seems to be in line with what you're saying about lethargy with extreme heat.
http://crime.static-eric.com/
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CookieCrumbs said: The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.
But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.
but in all seriousness, carbon emissions need to drop, and we need to get it under 400ppm, we also need to figure out a way to move on from our current agriculture practices regarding meat as it accounts for a slight majority of the global problem with emissions (methane is more toxic to the atmosphere than co2) more forests for carbon capture, electric cars instead of internal combustion, more energy from renewables. we are probably on the same page here so whatever.
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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: psi]
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CookieCrumbs said: The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.
It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.
But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.
but in all seriousness, carbon emissions need to drop, and we need to get it under 400ppm, we also need to figure out a way to move on from our current agriculture practices regarding meat as it accounts for a slight majority of the global problem with emissions (methane is more toxic to the atmosphere than co2) more forests for carbon capture, electric cars instead of internal combustion, more energy from renewables. we are probably on the same page here so whatever.
Oh yeah I'm not saying that it's not a problem. Agricultural practices in particular are a huge problem. All I'm saying is talking exclusively about carbon emissions undermines the seriousness of the problem.
Like current agricultural practices not only produce alot of carbon emissions, but they also are a massive waste of resources, water in particular. And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.
Tunnel vision and over simplification is how we tend to get ourselves into these messes in the first place.
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http://crime.static-eric.com/
Legit. That is a much bigger drop than I expected.
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>>And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.
The carbon emissions end up acidfying the ocean too, as it changes the pH which causes die offs of species and organisms that runs the entire food chain, along with increased temps as well as the ocean absorbs a lot of heat too
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CookieCrumbs said: I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. 
Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.
I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm Heat = sweat and get disgusting and gross and still be hot.
What hilarious to me is when there's an inch of snow in South Carolina and people raid the grocery stores. What'even more hilarious is when I see them driving and losing control because they have no idea how to drive in snow lol
It's even funnier when Canadians can't drive in an inch of snow because they think they're better and they suck just as bad
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Theres also evidence that higher ambient temperature leads to more more violent crimes.
Something about hot places makes our blood *literally* boil.
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As for snow in Sahara, freaking amazing!
And so sad about the Great Barrier Reef. I really wanted to visit it in my life time, now its almost dying
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404 said: >>And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.
The carbon emissions end up acidfying the ocean too, as it changes the pH which causes die offs of species and organisms that runs the entire food chain, along with increased temps as well as the ocean absorbs a lot of heat too
Which also help to raise ocean temperatures because our atmospheric sulfur (sulfur dioxide and more importantly another sulfur based compound I can't spell) is being fed into the oceans and this atmospheric sulfur helps to block sun rays. Combine that with what's going on in the ozone and I think this century is going to see a near pandemic of skin cancer.
That sulfur is supposed to be in our upper atmospheres. Not at the ground/ocean levels. I imagine alot more people will likely die from sulfur allergies too?
There's something else I read about carbonate ions also causing chemical reactions that raise water temperature but I'm not going to pretend to understand chemistry beyond the basic shit I know. I do know that there is a big difference between H2 and H20 and H202 and what happens when we pump chemicals and shit into the ocean and the air causes different chemical bonds, forms different compounds, and prevents the original elements from making the beneficial compounds they originally did.
It's a big crazy messed up cycle. It's so goddamn complicated I barely even understand it and I went to college for this shit. (I also failed the everlivingfuck out of chemistry )
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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Patlal]
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Niffla said: Supposedly the second time in recorded history.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp
Shit blew my mind like

I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.
Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.
And why the fuck didn't you link us?
I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on
http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead
it's claiming that 90% of the reef is dead but it's only a 20 mile stretch that's stressed with another 800 miles of reef that's fine. do you understand why I dont trust these 'science' websites for shit.
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CookieCrumbs said: Destroying environment = destroying people
destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment
it's the circle of life
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