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    #23948571 - 12/22/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla] * 5
    #23948579 - 12/22/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

that's global warming for ya


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23948596 - 12/22/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Global Warming Shills BTFO


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23948603 - 12/22/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yah saw this pretty cool pics i quess


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23948614 - 12/22/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:woooaaahhh:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Shiithead] * 2
    #23948616 - 12/22/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Global warming = wetter Sahara?

We're going back to Eden! :vibin:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23948628 - 12/22/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If we bring about a new ice age im all for it and thing it would be more manageable than extreme heat.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #23948632 - 12/22/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

looks mars like



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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla]
    #23948649 - 12/22/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Happened in Saudi this year too. And floods. It seems the end is closer that we thought


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948671 - 12/22/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
Happened in Saudi this year too. And floods. It seems the end is closer that we thought




wouldn't bank on it, bubba


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948674 - 12/22/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just changes. As changes have always happened.
A lot of landmass will be lost (low elevation coastal regions).
Sink! Florida, Sink! :devil:
More surface area on Earth consisting of water will bring temperatures lower due to less heat retention on land from the sun.

Eventually deserts will once AGAIN be oceans, or fertile valleys, and vice versa.

It's just Eart, man. It's what it does, and it's pretty fucking cool.

Mass extinction due to climate change anytime soon, or at least in my lifetime seems ludicrous.

Awesome picture, though.
I saw snow on the sand dunes here in CO and that shit blew my mind.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: kr0nik0]
    #23948737 - 12/22/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Article isn't wholely accurate. The desert gets a light snow every decade or so. What's rare is how long it snowed, how well it stuck, and the region it hit, which hasn't seen snow since 1979.


I'm glad they went to tell everyone that snow in the desert doesn't mean global warming doesn't exist tho.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23948745 - 12/22/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Niffla said:
Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:





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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23948746 - 12/22/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yah they were saying its like the foot hills of kilimonjaro or something dumb idk still cool pic


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23948752 - 12/22/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

stickiestace said:
Happened in Saudi this year too. And floods. It seems the end is closer that we thought




wouldn't bank on it, bubba





Already happened https://watchers.news/2016/11/30/snow-flood-saudi-arabia-november-2016/


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla]
    #23948765 - 12/22/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Niffla said:
Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:




I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #23948768 - 12/22/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

For sure.

I bet sand dune sledding is fun :lol:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948771 - 12/22/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

stickiestace said:
Happened in Saudi this year too. And floods. It seems the end is closer that we thought




wouldn't bank on it, bubba





Already happened https://watchers.news/2016/11/30/snow-flood-saudi-arabia-november-2016/




and so it follows that the end of the world is near? naw


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23948772 - 12/22/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

Niffla said:
Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:




I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.




And why the fuck didn't you link us?


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23948778 - 12/22/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

Niffla said:
Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:




I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.




And why the fuck didn't you link us?




I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on

http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Niffla]
    #23948787 - 12/22/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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looks mars like






That's amzaing :eek:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Patlal]
    #23948802 - 12/22/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

Niffla said:
Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:




I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.




And why the fuck didn't you link us?




I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on

http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead




No. The Shroomery is where I get my news. That fucking sucks. But not surprising. We've known for like 30-40 years it was dying and didn't stop doing the shit that was killing it.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23948811 - 12/22/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Actually did another google search and apparently it's not dead yet. It's being "bleached" which is a natural reaction to severe distress in coral. So like, it's really close to dying. I'd say that means we have a chance at saving it but that seems too slim to even be worth saying.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23948817 - 12/22/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psilosalvia said:
Quote:

Niffla said:
looks mars like






That's amzaing :eek:




Looks more like they overdone the raspberry in the ripple.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23948827 - 12/22/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

We're fucked, I tell you!


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23948831 - 12/22/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Global Warming Shills BTFO




It hit 31° F yesterday at the North Pole. It should be -20.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/north-pole-temperatures-may-soar-to-50-degrees-above-normal/
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For the second year in a row, the Arctic is facing a late December heat wave (at least by Arctic winter standards). Temperatures are forecast to soar about 50°F above normal, which would bring them near the freezing point at the North Pole.
As isolated data points, the back-to-back winter warm-ups would be weird. But taken in the larger context, it’s part of anunsettling trend for a region that is being rapidly reshaped by climate change.
A quick recap: Arctic sea ice hit its lowest peak recorded in March (besting the record set in 2015), hit it second-lowest extent recorded in September, and started shrinking in November — at a time when ice should be growing — following a heat wave.




It's really taking off now.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
    #23948867 - 12/22/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If global warming melt Canada and freezes the sahara, I think I'll beable to live with it.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23948869 - 12/22/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

:barbershreds:




I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.




And why the fuck didn't you link us?




I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on

http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead




No. The Shroomery is where I get my news. That fucking sucks. But not surprising. We've known for like 30-40 years it was dying and didn't stop doing the shit that was killing it.




That link didn't say anything about how we could have stopped it

Could we have?


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948873 - 12/22/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That link didn't say anything about how we could have stopped it

Could we have?




I'm not a coral doctor, I don't know man.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23948878 - 12/22/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Coral bleaching is theorized to be a generalized stress response of corals that may be caused by a number of biotic and abiotic factors, including:

  • increased (most commonly due to global warming), or reduced water temperatures[7][8][9][10]
  • oxygen starvation caused by an increase in zooplankton levels as a result of overfishing[11]
  • increased solar irradiance (photosynthetically active radiation and ultraviolet light)[12]
  • increased sedimentation (due to silt runoff)[13]
  • bacterial infections[14]
  • changes in salinity[15]
  • herbicides[16]
  • low tide and exposure[17]
  • cyanide fishing[18]
  • elevated sea levels due to global warming (Watson)[clarification needed]
  • mineral dust from African dust storms caused by drought[19]
  • four common sunscreen ingredients, that are nonbiodegradable, and can wash off of skin[20][21][22][23][24]





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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948889 - 12/22/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Decades ago I think so. I think by the time we actually got concerned about it it was too late. And I'm almost positive it's too late now. The coral is sick because their environment is unhealthy and there's no way we can clean the ocean before it does.


Some scientists (who probably know more than me) think there's a chance for it to come back. It's turning white because it's trying to protect itself and they think because of that reaction it could hold out long enough to come back. They've poured about 2 billion dollars into saving it... I'd not want to say it was beyond hope myself if I had anything to do with that kind of money.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
    #23948900 - 12/22/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are we fucked?

is this catastrophic news?

Are we all gonna die soon,
Can i finally justify my living with reckless abandon?

serious questions. well the first 2 and a half questions.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
    #23948906 - 12/22/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sahara droughts?

Solar irradiance?

Low tide?

Wtf could we have done about any of that?:shrug:


Sad to see it go, :sad:


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23948911 - 12/22/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, on the bright side we still have the Pyramids...


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23948913 - 12/22/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The coral itself isn't bleaching. Endosymbionts (symbiotic organisms that live inside the coral) are dying off, exposing the coral skeleton.


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948919 - 12/22/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Sahara droughts?

Solar irradiance?

Low tide?

Wtf could we have done about any of that?:shrug:




Scientists have been telling us what to do for decades. You refused to believe them and now you just :shrug:

At least somebody is showing some leadership:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/us/obama-drilling-ban-arctic-atlantic.html?_r=0


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
    #23948922 - 12/22/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Probably a combination of factors but I'm gonna focus on that bacteria. One thing that makes coral reefs so important in the oceans ecosystems is it acts as a buffer and a filter for the ocean. Plants that grow on it and the fish that nurse in it are filter feeders, they suck in water and process the edibles from it, when the edibles are infected with disease causing pathogens these plants and animals can normally process those to and counter the pathogen. But when there is an overwhelming amount of pathogens due to the removal of similar ocean buffers and warming climates they take in too many pathogens, too much bacteria for their own little immune system to fight and get sick.

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The coral itself isn't bleaching. Endosymbionts (symbiotic organisms that live inside the coral) are dying off, exposing the coral skeleton.




Totally read it was an excretion. Least I thought I did. I'm probably too fucked up to science right now...


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: koods]
    #23948927 - 12/22/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
Sahara droughts?

Solar irradiance?

Low tide?

Wtf could we have done about any of that?:shrug:




Scientists have been telling us what to do for decades. You refused to believe them and now you just :shrug:

At least somebody is showing some leadership:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/us/obama-drilling-ban-arctic-atlantic.html?_r=0




Banning drilling will stop drought, low tides and solar irradiance?

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948937 - 12/22/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Low tides aren't the problem



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Your link suggested that as part of the problem


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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948945 - 12/22/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not stop. The earth is an ecosphere. A very very large ecosystem.

When we remove rainforests we are removing the earths ability to hold and clean water and to produce oxygen.

To tldr it that is one small thing that effects global temperature when it's done on a large enough scale.

Water pollution has also raised water temperature which in turn raises global temperature.



So like, I don't think we could have stopped climate change, but we could have been less of greedy dumbasses and avoid the scale of destruction of life on earth we are seeing and will see by the turn of the century.


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    #23948992 - 12/22/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Your link suggested that as part of the problem




No, it doesn't. It says low tide can cause bleaching.


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    #23948995 - 12/22/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Your link suggested that as part of the problem




No, it doesn't. It says low tide can cause bleaching.




So when I asked what caused it and you gave me a link suggesting "low tide" that doesn't meant that was the answer or even part of it?

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Re: Snow fell on the Sahara [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23948997 - 12/22/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If I gave you a list of things that cause cancer, would you think that everything on the list caused someone to get cancer?


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    #23949002 - 12/22/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cigarettes don't cause cancer.


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Your link suggested that as part of the problem




No, it doesn't. It says low tide can cause bleaching.





Let me save you the trouble,

all climate change is caused by fossil fuels and if we'd just all freeze in the winter, drive Prius's, and "conserve" (unless we are rich liberals, them we can burn all the resources we want) then the world will finally heal itself

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    #23949006 - 12/22/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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If I gave you a list of things that cause cancer, would you think that everything on the list caused someone to get cancer?




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    #23949016 - 12/22/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Partisan hack


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Partisan hack




Obfuscation

I asked, you refused to answer, instead talked in circles

What the point of staying on topic if you won't address the issues?


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    #23949027 - 12/22/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Oh shit guys. New thing about electric cars I learned. Cars in general.

50% of the emission a car will ever produce comes from the production line of that car. So you may think that trading in your car for an electriic one is better for the environment, but now that you know this, you keep your gas car until it breaks down and delay your purchase Cause otherwise you're throwing in a brand new 50% emsission right off the bat on the raod.


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    #23949028 - 12/22/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on

http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead




No. The Shroomery is where I get my news. That fucking sucks. But not surprising. We've known for like 30-40 years it was dying and didn't stop doing the shit that was killing it.




Reread this and 2 other articles. Apparently everyone is confusing eachother. By "above the line" they mean a certain range (not sure how large the range is) where 5% of the reef was actually still alive.


Me and koods were each half right, the white is an internal algae the coral uses to process its food. When the algae becomes sick the coral spits it out. So it is the corals insides but not its bones. It's only chance of surviving after the fact is to grow more algea.
In this case, in this sample range, 5% of the bleached coral did. And now since there is so few coral remaining they're being devoured by their natural predators which severely over populate them.

Ecosystem fucks. You fuck up one thing and it is an inevitable chain reaction. Those predators are going to die too. And in turn their predators are likely to die too.


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    #23949036 - 12/22/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Your link suggested that as part of the problem




No, it doesn't. It says low tide can cause bleaching.




So when I asked what caused it and you gave me a link suggesting "low tide" that doesn't meant that was the answer or even part of it?

:facepalm:




Low tides can cause bleaching. Low tides are not generally a problem around the world considering that sea levels are rising.

You also ignored that rising sea levels are also a cause of bleaching.


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    #23949038 - 12/22/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh shit guys. New thing about electric cars I learned. Cars in general.

50% of the emission a car will ever produce comes from the production line of that car. So you may think that trading in your car for an electriic one is better for the environment, but now that you know this, you keep your gas car until it breaks down and delay your purchase Cause otherwise you're throwing in a brand new 50% emsission right off the bat on the raod.




Fun fact,  most lies pushed by the climate change hoaxers are indeed hoaxes

Take the reef thing, not one person believes it could have been stopped but they are willing to throw away whole productive branches of industry to push their cause anyway, it's disgusting


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    #23949043 - 12/22/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Your link suggested that as part of the problem




No, it doesn't. It says low tide can cause bleaching.





Let me save you the trouble,

climate change is caused by fossil fuels

That about right?



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    #23949044 - 12/22/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh shit guys. New thing about electric cars I learned. Cars in general.

50% of the emission a car will ever produce comes from the production line of that car. So you may think that trading in your car for an electriic one is better for the environment, but now that you know this, you keep your gas car until it breaks down and delay your purchase Cause otherwise you're throwing in a brand new 50% emsission right off the bat on the raod.




Fun fact,  most lies pushed by the climate change hoaxers are indeed hoaxes

Take the reef thing, not one person believes it could have been stopped but they are willing to throw away whole productive branches of industry to push their cause anyway, it's disgusting




Do you work in the fossil fuel industry? You sound like a sycophant.


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    #23949047 - 12/22/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh shit guys. New thing about electric cars I learned. Cars in general.

50% of the emission a car will ever produce comes from the production line of that car. So you may think that trading in your car for an electriic one is better for the environment, but now that you know this, you keep your gas car until it breaks down and delay your purchase Cause otherwise you're throwing in a brand new 50% emsission right off the bat on the raod.




Fun fact,  most lies pushed by the climate change hoaxers are indeed hoaxes

Take the reef thing, not one person believes it could have been stopped but they are willing to throw away whole productive branches of industry to push their cause anyway, it's disgusting




Well, you have to try. Money should be secondary to life forms and turns out that life forms are the environment.

But the car thing I mentioned is not a hoax. Car production is extrememly polluting. Melting the steel, making the plastics, electricity needed to operate etc.

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    #23949065 - 12/22/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My next door neighbors have a Tesla. It costs less than $10 a month to keep their car changed.

The thing about electric cars is that an electric motor is very efficient at converting electrical energy to mechanical energy. (90%) while gasoline engines only convert 20% of their chemical energy to mechanical energy, the rest is lost as heat.

Patlal, if you upgrade to a Prius and drive the average 13,000 miles a year, it only takes 10 months to cancel out the loss of making a new vehicle. Much less if you upgrade to an all electric.

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It takes roughly the equivalent of 260 gallons of gasoline to make the typical car of around 3,000 pounds, according to an exhaustive study by the Argonne National Laboratory. (And I do mean exhaustive. These guys have factored in darn near everything but the calories consumed by the assembly-line workers.) A hybrid car takes about 25% more energy than a regular car, or around the equivalent of 325 gallons because it requires more juice to make the batteries.

Whether to replace depends on how much you drive. If your car gets 32 miles per gallon, then you’re putting on only 3,200 miles a year, as opposed to the ghastly national average of more than 13,000. So if you buy, say, a plug-in Prius, which gets about 50 miles per gallon and drive it the same distance, you'd be using 36 fewer gallons of gas a year than with your old car. So it would take 9 years before your Prius will have “caught up” with your old car and saved enough fuel to offset the energy needed to make it. After that, your 18 miles extra per gallon will be pure savings in energy and emissions. But if you were driving your old car that customary 13,000 miles a year, burning 406 gallons a year, it would only take about 10 months before you’d have burned up the amount of energy needed to create a road-worthy Prius.



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    #23949072 - 12/22/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh shit guys. New thing about electric cars I learned. Cars in general.

50% of the emission a car will ever produce comes from the production line of that car. So you may think that trading in your car for an electriic one is better for the environment, but now that you know this, you keep your gas car until it breaks down and delay your purchase Cause otherwise you're throwing in a brand new 50% emsission right off the bat on the raod.




Fun fact,  most lies pushed by the climate change hoaxers are indeed hoaxes

Take the reef thing, not one person believes it could have been stopped but they are willing to throw away whole productive branches of industry to push their cause anyway, it's disgusting




Well, you have to try. Money should be secondary to life forms and turns out that life forms are the environment.

But the car thing I mentioned is not a hoax. Car production is extrememly polluting. Melting the steel, making the plastics, electricity needed to operate etc.

Delay buying new cars as much as you can if you're pro environment




Yes people please stop buying new cars every 5 years. It's not economically sound either.


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    #23949120 - 12/22/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, I'm not gonna drive an old beater car or a "golf cart car" just so the hoaxers can feel like they are accomplishing something

Don't misunderstand, I'm all for alternative energy and the new and exciting technology that it is bringing. But don't pretend like your saving the world by buying a shitty electric car.:lol:


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    #23949153 - 12/22/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

See like 30 years ago they were sayying the earth is resilient enough it will stabilize itself and bounce back. And under natural conditions this is true. But the shit we've done on top of the natural climate shift is making millions of species and ecosystems unable to cope. Like our coral friends probably would have been able to adapt to warming water temperatures if we weren't also polluting the water and killing off the organisms that helped to protect the reef.

Human beings are resilient creatures too but I dunno if even we can survive if projected extinction rates and natural disasters to come are even remotely accurate. There's tons of things that are projected to happen in the next 100-500 years that could kill all of us. Some of them we have no control over. Some wouldn't be so bad if we hadn't destroyed the earths ability to self regulate.


It's surgically removing your thyroid and putting you in a sauna. Under normal conditions you'd just get sweaty. Without a thyroid you have severely limited thermoregulation. You'll overheat and die because you no longer have the ability to self regulate.


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    #23949162 - 12/22/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.

It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.


But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.


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    #23949164 - 12/22/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.

It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.


But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.




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    #23949370 - 12/22/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.





Thanks for taking my hopes away... Then again, Florida does have fucked up laws, so it might be a good thing.


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    #23949391 - 12/22/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You would melt in Florida.


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    #23949402 - 12/22/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. :lol:

Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.

I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm
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    #23949468 - 12/22/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. :lol:

Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.

I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm
Heat = sweat and get disgusting and gross and still be hot.




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    #23949542 - 12/22/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.




This global warming thing has way bigger implications than fucking destroying the stupid enviroment. Ive been working on a theory thats gonna blow the whole lid off this global warming thing as we know it now. Where are all the crazest shit show places in the world? Lets look at places like africa the middle east florida what do they all have in common theyre hot as balls. Now look at places like canada northern europe northern parts of america. The heat. the heat is making people fucking nuts. WHat happens when the whole world turns into florida. Cant you imagine.thats it game over man.


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    #23949596 - 12/22/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You think people being shitty to eachother is because of the heat and not because of the environment most extremely hot climates produce... Like a lack of clean water, food, and dangerous plants and animals need to be hard as fuck to live in such shitholes?


Destroying environment = destroying people

That is the very chain reaction I am talking about my friend. People turn into rabid animals when they feel threatened and limited resources tends to make for a very threatening environment. Hotter climates have less rainfall (or torrential seasonal rainfall) and therefore less readily available food. Less water means less plants and less plants means less animals and all of that means less happy healthy people.

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    #23949623 - 12/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You think people being shitty to eachother is because of the heat and not because of the environment most extremely hot climates produce... Like a lack of clean water, food, and dangerous plants and animals need to be hard as fuck to live in such shitholes?




Those things probably would be factors as well, but people do tend to get more aggressive and short-tempered when it's hot.


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    #23949693 - 12/22/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This is true. But in oppressive heat people also tend to become lethargic.

Necessity to constantly be seeking resources means being out and active in heat. Our bodies try to encourage us to remain inactive or use as little energy as possible in heat (which is why heat exhaustion is a thing) and fatigue is also known to make people angry. Add hunger on top of that and really it's no surprise people can turn into cruel bastards.


I think that too is a survival mechanism. The body is trying to conserve energy, has little energy to use, but you got shit to do and emotion can be some legitimate fuel when there is nothing else. It motivates us to fight against our nature to rest when we are hot and hungry and tired.

I've read where there's actually a strange combination of strong emotion and emotional detachment that carries people through perilous conditions. Makes sense. You need to be emotionally detached to do whatever you need to do without hesitation to survive but at the same time without emotion there is no motivation to go on.



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    #23949739 - 12/22/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

One of the pages I was looking at on this had a graph where crime rose with temperature up to about 95 F and then there was a big drop-off after that. Seems to be in line with what you're saying about lethargy with extreme heat.

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    #23949745 - 12/22/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.

It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.


But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.





but in all seriousness, carbon emissions need to drop, and we need to get it under 400ppm, we also need to figure out a way to move on from our current agriculture practices regarding meat as it accounts for a slight majority of the global problem with emissions (methane is more toxic to the atmosphere than co2) more forests for carbon capture, electric cars instead of internal combustion, more energy from renewables. we are probably on the same page here so whatever.


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The fixation on carbon emissions irritates me to no end. It seriously under represents our real problems. The term global warming pisses me off too because idiot people think that means the world is going to turn into Florida.

It's severely oversimplifying a very complex problem.


But I guess that's what we get for not teaching kids remotely useful shit in school. People don't have the comprehension or attention span to understand the true extent of our problems.





but in all seriousness, carbon emissions need to drop, and we need to get it under 400ppm, we also need to figure out a way to move on from our current agriculture practices regarding meat as it accounts for a slight majority of the global problem with emissions (methane is more toxic to the atmosphere than co2) more forests for carbon capture, electric cars instead of internal combustion, more energy from renewables. we are probably on the same page here so whatever.




Oh yeah I'm not saying that it's not a problem. Agricultural practices in particular are a huge problem. All I'm saying is talking exclusively about carbon emissions undermines the seriousness of the problem.

Like current agricultural practices not only produce alot of carbon emissions, but they also are a massive waste of resources, water in particular. And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.

Tunnel vision and over simplification is how we tend to get ourselves into these messes in the first place.

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One of the pages I was looking at on this had a graph where crime rose with temperature up to about 95 F and then there was a big drop-off after that. Seems to be in line with what you're saying about lethargy with extreme heat.

http://crime.static-eric.com/




Legit. That is a much bigger drop than I expected.


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    #23949863 - 12/22/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

>>And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.

The carbon emissions end up acidfying the ocean too, as it changes the pH which causes die offs of species and organisms that runs the entire food chain, along with increased temps as well as the ocean absorbs a lot of heat too


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I had friends in Florida last year and apparently they were freaking out a frost advisory. News had to tell people what to do to deal with frost. And they were freezing their tropical hides off in 50 degree weather. :lol:

Adaptation is weird like that. I'd melt in a Floridian summer too and I'm really only half as far north as you are. Then again I've been melting in our summers.

I'm sincerely hoping I can move close to or across the boarder in the next 10 years. Cold is easier to deal with than heat. Cold = put a shit load of layers on and be relatively warm
Heat = sweat and get disgusting and gross and still be hot.




What hilarious to me is when there's an inch of snow in South Carolina and people raid the grocery stores. What'even more hilarious is when I see them driving and losing control because they have no idea how to drive in snow lol




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Theres also evidence that higher ambient temperature leads to more more violent crimes.

Something about hot places makes our blood *literally* boil.


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    #23949892 - 12/22/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

As for snow in Sahara, freaking amazing!

And so sad about the Great Barrier Reef. I really wanted to visit it in my life time, now its almost dying :sad:


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>>And up until relatively recently were a massive source of "runoff" pollution that made its way into streams, rivers, and ultimately the ocean.

The carbon emissions end up acidfying the ocean too, as it changes the pH which causes die offs of species and organisms that runs the entire food chain, along with increased temps as well as the ocean absorbs a lot of heat too




Which also help to raise ocean temperatures because our atmospheric sulfur (sulfur dioxide and more importantly another sulfur based compound I can't spell) is being fed into the oceans and this atmospheric sulfur helps to block sun rays. Combine that with what's going on in the ozone and I think this century is going to see a near pandemic of skin cancer.

That sulfur is supposed to be in our upper atmospheres. Not at the ground/ocean levels. I imagine alot more people will likely die from sulfur allergies too?


There's something else I read about carbonate ions also causing chemical reactions that raise water temperature but I'm not going to pretend to understand chemistry beyond the basic shit I know. I do know that there is a big difference between H2 and H20 and H202 and what happens when we pump chemicals and shit into the ocean and the air causes different chemical bonds, forms different compounds, and prevents the original elements from making the beneficial compounds they originally did.


It's a big crazy messed up cycle. It's so goddamn complicated I barely even understand it and I went to college for this shit.
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    #23950051 - 12/22/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Supposedly the second time in recorded history.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rare-snow-falls-in-the-sahara/ar-BBxpLG0?ocid=iehp

Shit blew my mind like

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I know. We should all be like "WTF are we doing!". But we're not.

Did you guys know that like 2 months ago the Great Barrier Coral Reef or whatever died? Yep. We destroyed that too. But we chose to listen to the "Grab them by the pussy" news instead.




And why the fuck didn't you link us?




I assumed you all got the Facebook feed.... hold on

http://www.sciencealert.com/most-of-the-great-barrier-reef-above-this-line-is-now-dead





it's claiming that 90% of the reef is dead but it's only a 20 mile stretch that's
stressed with another 800 miles of reef that's fine. do you understand why I dont
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    #23950054 - 12/22/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Destroying environment = destroying people





destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment

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Actually this popped up in one of my google searches and it helps provide a tangible example on how complicated (and dependant) an ecosphere is in relatively few words:

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/sahara-keeps-amazon-green/



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destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment

it's the circle of life




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Always got a giggle out of this.


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Actually this popped up in one of my google searches and it helps provide a tangible example on how complicated (and dependant) an ecosphere is in relatively few words:

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/sahara-keeps-amazon-green/




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_oscillation

the thing the IPCC seems to want to deny



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destroying the environment = destroying people = saving the environment

it's the circle of life




The power of self-sustaining cycles on earth is beautiful, no? :lol:




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    #23950124 - 12/22/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well that's basically what we're doing. This is already the highest mass extinction rate we can measure. That alone says that no it's not natural.

But I grant it is extremely difficult to measure such things going back hundreds of millions of years. Still we are set to making earth unlivable for over 90% of its current species. Which is higher if you factor in predicted natural disasters we're due for.

As far as committees like the IPCC - there is no organization that is incorruptible and there will never be complete agreements among specialists. And unfortunately when you're talking about government agencies you cannot present disagreements so while some or even the majority of it's 'members' might think differently they can't really say so.


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    #23950148 - 12/22/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Its like The Matrix in reverse!

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    #23950165 - 12/22/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

How did I know you fuckers would turn this shit into some global warming/climate change bullshit :lol:

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    #23950170 - 12/22/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23950291 - 12/22/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Well that's basically what we're doing. This is already the highest mass extinction rate we can measure. That alone says that no it's not natural.





well that's false, we have measured through archeological evidence much larger
mass extinctions and what's going on right now keeps being called mass extinctions
but it's not thousands of species dropping out at a time and many of these animals
such as the dodo, rhinos and many other species, we've hunted them to extinction,
it's not due to our effects on climate or habitat although these things do have an
effect. this isnt mass extinction, at least not yet. we havent seen even 10% of
the species on the planet die off over the last 1000 years


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But I grant it is extremely difficult to measure such things going back hundreds of millions of years. Still we are set to making earth unlivable for over 90% of its current species. Which is higher if you factor in predicted natural disasters we're due for.




no, actually it's pretty easy to measure and we have a pretty good record of mass
extinction events, we know there to have been hundreds of them with tens of
thousands of species dying off in even the smallest of these events



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the IPCC is nothing but corrupt, it's a political body that has insisted from the
beginning that global warming is anthropogenic and only looks at evidence to that
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    #23950349 - 12/22/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Rate. Extinction rate.
But I suppose it is not a mass extinction yet. Will be most likely. I don't even know if "they" called it a mass extinction or I'm just interjecting projections into 2 separate things.

Which apparently scientific news journals do all the time so I don't feel bad.

But if you're going to discount species that go extinct primarily due to hunting - oh no no we've not lost many species. But human beings hunt anything. For any reason. Even "scientists" that are "trying to save them" do that shit. But in the last 20 years there's been a considerable number of species to come near extinction or actually go extinct due to habitat loss and poor conditions (mostly aquatic life) the numbers are disturbing if nothing else. And there's dozens more that are hanging on to survival with less than 100 individuals. I can think of nearly a dozen that are surviving or thought to be surviving in the wild with less than 10.

Tbh the water life is the most vulnerable  to what we've been doing. The current acidity of ocean water is the highest it has been in 300 million years. The acidity has doubled in half a century. And anyone that's ever had an aquarium should know how sensitive aquatic life can be to ph levels, as well as phosphorus and nitrogen levels. They've actually been dying off in droves since the 50s. It just hasn't been horribly concerning because the ocean was so plentiful... It's not nearly as plentiful now. And a considerable amount of that is due to overfishing. But the quality has also gone to shit. The fish we pull out now are frequently sick and infested with bacteria or chemicals like mercury. They aren't reproducing as much as they should be. They aren't growing as they should be. When you lose almost half of all sea life in less than a century I dunno how you can possibly not be concerned with how livable the planet is going to be in less than another century when consumption and human population has continued to rise.


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    #23950361 - 12/22/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dudes it snowed there 37 years ago.

This isn't that big of a deal.


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    #23950373 - 12/22/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's not even about the temperature. It gets fucking cold in North Africa in the winter. What's surprising is the moisture.


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    #23950413 - 12/22/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How did I know you fuckers would turn this shit into some global warming/climate change bullshit :lol:

shit got me like

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    #23950418 - 12/22/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the earth's wobble effect puts the sahara in the rain belt every 20,000 years
there are actually sea floor type stuff if you search around there used to be massive lakes there that ended up in south africa so you'll see strange fish in oasis from time to time
they know this because the sand goes into the sea and leaves impressions


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    #23950597 - 12/23/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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My next door neighbors have a Tesla. It costs less than $10 a month to keep their car changed.






Hey koods, I'm not trying to call you a liar or anything, but this seems like it could be a bit misleading without some additional details.

What model of Tesla do your neighbors drive, and how long is their average commute? How often do they charge the battery?

I'm not denying that electric powered vehicles are far more energy efficient than IC powered ones, but it would seem to me that @ 13.7 c/kWh, it qould cost roughly 8-11 USD for a full charge, giving roughly 200 miles of range, depending on the battery pack installed and driving behaviour.

I'm sure your math is better than mine... care to comment?


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    #23950610 - 12/23/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They probably use free charging stations where they work too. Parking garages generally don't charge you to hook up to power.


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    #23950630 - 12/23/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting....

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ~50% of Maryland's power generated by coal-fueled plants @around 30% efficiency?


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It's not even about the temperature. It gets fucking cold in North Africa in the winter. What's surprising is the moisture.





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