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Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' * 4
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Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail'

Now that's scary.  Flag burning is free speech, protected by the First Amendment.  Even Justice Antonin Scalia agrees with that (Texas v. Johnson).

But what's worse is that this is a first step towards silencing dissenters.

Let's hope Trump never pushes this.


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail'

Now that's scary.  Flag burning is free speech, protected by the First Amendment.  Even Justice Antonin Scalia agrees with that (Texas v. Johnson).

But what's worse is that this is a first step towards silencing dissenters.

Let's hope Trump never pushes this.


Are liberals unable to "dissent" without acting like compete fucking assholes?


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 7
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What do you do with someone if you strip them of their citizenship ? It's not like you can force another country to take them .  Lol , you burned a flag your a Mexican now get your ass on the otherside of my wall that I'm going to make  your pay for .
Donald trump is constitutionally retarted , like half the people who voted for him .


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: psilynut] * 1
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So very very stupid


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
Are liberals unable to "dissent" without acting like compete fucking assholes?


So... you're in favor of this???  :wtf:


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail'

Now that's scary.  Flag burning is free speech, protected by the First Amendment.  Even Justice Antonin Scalia agrees with that (Texas v. Johnson).

But what's worse is that this is a first step towards silencing dissenters.

Let's hope Trump never pushes this.


Well, it will be tough for the liberals to riot if they are deported or jailed for flag burning.

Criminals gonna criminal.


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
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So... you're in favor of this???  :wtf:


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The supreme court has already decided this issue in the Texas v. Johnson decision.

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Held: Johnson's conviction for flag desecration is inconsistent with the First Amendment. Pp. 402-420.



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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Skellies]
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The Supreme Court also once upheld slavery, so it's no surprise that democrats would use that to justify flag burning terrorism as well


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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Trump is creating political rhetoric to enhance nationalism, that's his ultimate goal at the moment.

What people need to get accustomed with is that Trump is NOT a typical modern day Western politician, he's using different tactics to accomplish unique goals.

If people take everything he says seriously, they're going to have tons of ulcers and migraines.

Edited by qman (11/29/16 09:35 PM)

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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
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finalexplosion said:
Well, it will be tough for the liberals to riot if they are deported or jailed for flag burning.

Criminals gonna criminal.


hostileuniverse said:
The Supreme Court also once upheld slavery, so it's no surprise that democrats would use that to justify flag burning terrorism as well


I guess you're both not familiar with the concept of free speech.  Not one country in the world forbids polite speech.  Freedom of speech is about allowing impolite speech, such as flag burning.

Both of you now admit you favor politically correct speech over free speech and the constitution.

I find it quite amazing what Trump is doing to people.

At least qman hasn't opened his ass cheeks wide for lil'dick yet.


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Both of you now admit you favor politically correct speech


Since when have the left not supported limits on speech, they want to get Rush off the air, they campaign to shut down conservative opinion every chance they get

***and no, terrorizing people with incendiary displays shouldn't be protected


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
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Here's my take on the whole thing.
The tweet was a strategic move made in order to goad the most rabid Trump haters to burn flags in defiance.  Since most Americans are opposed to flag burning(including the ones who think you should still have the right), this will make the anti-trump protesters etc. look less legitimate, and able to garner less support from the general public.

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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Here's my take on the whole thing.
The tweet was a strategic move made in order to goad the most rabid Trump haters to burn flags in defiance.  Since most Americans are opposed to flag burning(including the ones who think you should still have the right), this will make the anti-trump protesters etc. look less legitimate, and able to garner less support from the general public.


A good question is why do these fucking idiots have any support at all? The elections over, they lost


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
ballsalsa said:
Here's my take on the whole thing.
The tweet was a strategic move made in order to goad the most rabid Trump haters to burn flags in defiance.  Since most Americans are opposed to flag burning(including the ones who think you should still have the right), this will make the anti-trump protesters etc. look less legitimate, and able to garner less support from the general public.


A good question is why do these fucking idiots have any support at all? The elections over, they lost


probably because those idiots make up the majority of counted voters, and they are relying on being able to mount robust opposition to the right-wing shitstorm that everyone is expecting.  Don't worry, there will be more elections to come.  midterms come up all too quickly.

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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
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hostileuniverse said:
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Both of you now admit you favor politically correct speech over free speech and the constitution.


Since when have the left not supported limits on speech, they want to get Rush off the air, they campaign to shut down conservative opinion every chance they get


Wow, you actually admit that you favor political correctness over the constitution and you double down defending that position because one or two liberals wanted to shut down Rush Limbaugh.

Stop cherry picking some stupid liberals - no one here wants to shut down Rush or free speech (though a lot of people dislike him).

The fact that you and finalexplosion are OK with shutting down free speech is frightening.


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Gosh darn it now I cant burn flags to make a statement!


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: The Blind Ass]
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So... you're ok with this too???  :wtf:


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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:jimmies:


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Re: Trump: Flag-Burning Must Have Consequences, 'Perhaps Loss of Citizenship or Year in Jail' [Re: The Blind Ass]
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I put my money on this never becoming a law and this post just being about a remark Trump said.

Until it is in law , go burn flags and get it our of your system if you need to ..:rolleyes:

It wont happen anyways, if it does - oh boy were in for a hell of a 4 year run.


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