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OfflineEllis Dee
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Poll: Do you support Flag Burning?
    #859290 - 09/02/02 05:43 PM (19 years, 30 days ago)


Do you support the right of flag burning?
Yes, it is the right of every American and the constitution says we can
Yes, it's a constitutional right but I wouldn't do it
Yes, it's a constitutional right but I find it detestable
No, I support the government restricting freedom



Votes accepted from (12/31/69 07:00 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #859691 - 09/02/02 08:43 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

As Bill Hicks said

"if the US flag really does represent freedom then shoudn't that also include the freedom to burn the flag?"


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #859809 - 09/02/02 09:24 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

as long as it's an Israeli flag  :wink: 


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #859817 - 09/02/02 09:27 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

yes, a reasonable measure to take during protest


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: locobot]
    #859819 - 09/02/02 09:27 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

/me thinks he will wear his Israeli Flag lapel pin to work in the morning instead of the baby feet lapel pin.

I would never burn an Israeli flag but I must support the freedom to do it.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #860981 - 09/03/02 07:58 AM (19 years, 29 days ago)



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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #861880 - 09/03/02 03:55 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

I equate the worshipping of a flag as i do the golden calf....it's just a piece of cloth..

I love the country..not the flag itself

Burn away...we're one of the few countries that allow such freedoms


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #862142 - 09/03/02 06:32 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

"Burn away...we're one of the few countries that allow such freedoms"

Citizens of England, France, Canada, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan and most other civilized countries have full freedom to buy and burn their country's flag if they so desire.

Apparently 48 of the states still have flag desecration laws, despite supreme court rulings.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #862741 - 09/04/02 04:08 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

What's the point of burning the flag if it's not illegal and nobody cares!


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #862806 - 09/04/02 05:14 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

I don't see it as important enough to form an opinion about. It's a flag.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Revelation]
    #862951 - 09/04/02 07:21 AM (19 years, 28 days ago)

Lots of people want to make it so you can be thrown in jail for burning the flag. Once people start trying to restrict a freedom like that, then it's time to start forming an opinion.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Phluck]
    #864098 - 09/04/02 07:13 PM (19 years, 28 days ago)

****Citizens of England, France, Canada, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan and most other civilized countries have full freedom to buy and burn their country's flag if they so desire.****

did i say we were the only ones?...pay attention Jr.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #867174 - 09/06/02 12:25 PM (19 years, 26 days ago)

People have the right to express whatever asshole opinion they want, including burning the flag. Very few actually do it, anyway, so it's kind of silly that people get so worked up over it.

I loved seeing that Palestinian moron light his own head on fire while he was trying to burn the US flag. I'd hate to deprive more islamikazis of the opportunity.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #867476 - 09/06/02 03:49 PM (19 years, 26 days ago)

you should have ahd a "i dont really give a damn" option in the poll. i bet it would be leading the poll right now.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #867557 - 09/06/02 04:38 PM (19 years, 26 days ago)

Of course I support someones right of expression; in this case flag burning. Just don't use gas or endanger others while you do it.

Oh yeah, I also reserve the right to put my foot in your ass after you do. I may be arrested, but I got a hundred dollar bill that says the judge will let me go with a warning.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #877782 - 09/11/02 12:58 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

31 poll participants; I guess it's not an issue.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #877823 - 09/11/02 01:15 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

I walked through a county courthouse square.
On a park bench an old man was sitting there.
I said, "Your old courthouse is kinda run down."
He said, "Naw, it'll do for our little town."
I said, "Your old flagpole has leaned a little bit,
and that's a ragged old flag you got hanging on it.

He said, "Have a seat", and I sat down.
"Is this the first time you've been to our little town?"
I said, "I think it is." He said, "I don't like to brag,
but we're kinda proud of that ragged old flag."

"You see, we got a little hole in that flag there,
when Washington took it across the Delaware.
And it got powder-burned the night Francis Scott Key
sat watching it writing "Oh Say Can You See".
And it got a bad rip in New Orleans,
with Packingham and Jackson tuggin' at its seams."

"And it almost fell at the Alamo,
beside the Texas flag, but she waved on though.
She got cut with a sword at Chancellorsville,
and she got cut again at Shiloh Hill.
There was Robert E. Lee, Beauregard, and Bragg,
and the south wind blew hard on that ragged old flag."

"On Flanders Field in World War I,
she got a big hole from a Bertha gun.
She turned blood red in World War II,
she hung limp and low a time or two.
She was in Korea, Vietnam,
she went where she was sent by her Uncle Sam."

"She waved from our ships upon the briny foam,
and now they've about quit waving her back here at home.
In her own good land here she's been abused --
she's been burned, dishonored, denied and refused."

"And the government for which she stands...
is scandalized throughout the land.
And she's getting threadbare and she's wearing thin,
but she's in good shape for the shape she's in.
'Cause she's been through the fire before,
and I believe she can take a whole lot more."

"So we raise her up every morning,
we take her down every night.
We don't let her touch the ground,
and we fold her up right.
On second thought I DO like to brag,
'Cause I'm mighty proud of that ragged old flag."

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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #877845 - 09/11/02 01:26 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

Narrated by John Wayne
Face the flag of stars and bars
Of red and white and blue,
A flag that guarantees the rights
For men like me and you.

Face the flag, son! Read what's written there,
the history, the progress and the heritage we share.
Our flag reflects the past, son, but stands for so much more,
and in this age of Aquarius, it still flies in the fore.
It leads the forward movement shared by all mankind,
to learn...to love...to live...with peace of mind.
To learn the mysteries of space, as well as those of earth,
to love each man for what he is, regardless of his birth.
To live without the fear of reprisal for belief;
to ease the tensions of the world that cries out for relief.

Face the flag of stars and bars
Of red and white and blue,
A flag that guarantees the rights
For men like me and you.

Face the flag, son! Take a good long look.
What you're seeing now can't be found in any history book.
It's the present and the future, son. It's being written now.
And you're the one to write it, but the flag can show you how.
Do you know what it stands for? What its makers meant?
To think...To speak...the privilege of dissent.
To think our leaders might be wrong...to stand and tell them so.
These are the things that other men under other flags will never know.
But, Responsibility...that's the cross that free men must bear.
And if you don't accept that, the freedom isn't there.

Face the flag of stars and bars
Of red and white and blue,
A flag that guarantees the rights
For men like me and you.

Face the flag, son, and face reality.
Our strengths and our freedoms, are based in unity.
The flag is but a symbol, son, of the world's greatest nation,
And as long as it keeps flying, there's cause for celebration.
So do what you've got to do, but always keep in mind,
A lot of people believe in peace...but there are the other kind.
If we want to keep these freedoms, we may have to fight again.
God forbid, but if we do, let's always fight to win,
For the fate of a loser, is futile and it's bare...
No love...No peace...just misery and despair.

Face the flag, son...
and thank God it's still there.



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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: mr freedom]
    #877884 - 09/11/02 01:39 PM (19 years, 21 days ago)

BURN BABY BURN DISCO INFERNO!













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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #880502 - 09/12/02 01:47 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Flags were made flammable for a reason.


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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: 1stimer]
    #898249 - 09/21/02 09:40 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

"What's the point of burning the flag if it's not illegal and nobody cares! "

good point, I guess that's why people do it, cause it's controversial.



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Re: Poll: Do you support Flag Burning? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #898255 - 09/21/02 09:42 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

The Flag Desecration Rag
David Rovics

They tried to pass an amendment in the U.S. Congress
Seems these thugs have some grievance to redress
They said we all must pledge allegiance, 'cause that is what they need
We may not desecrate their symbol of hypocrisy and greed

(Chorus)
But the flag is just a rag (2x)
Just a worn-out, tired, dirty, blood-soaked rag

Pledge allegiance to the symbol, well how about the deed
Allegiance to democracy or blind authority
It's a flag of war from L.A. to Vietnam
It desecrates itself each time the Air Force drops a bomb

Chorus

Like they say in Mexico*, "Yankee Go Home"
Uncle Sam and his club thinks the world's there to roam
And to make the point well they do the traditional thing
Light a match and let freedom ring

Chorus

So burn it, stomp it, tear it up or at least hang it upside-down
Tie it to your foot and drag it on the ground
Let everybody know how many lives are gone
'Cause of idiots who said, "My country right or wrong"
Chorus

*Fill in the blank (i.e., Serbia, Puerto Rico, Big Mountain, Iraq, Colombia, etc.)


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