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Psynonim
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Clitocybe nuda / Lepista nuda ID-ed + heavy metal contam info.
#23850657 - 11/20/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by Psynonim (11/20/16 12:40 PM)
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Psynonim]
#23850666 - 11/20/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Compare with http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html
A fruity or OJ smell should be really obvious and the spore print should be white. Cortinarius would the genus that would look very similar to this but has an rust/orange spore print and there's usually a spore deposit on the stem where the veil remnants would be.
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Raven44
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Mmmmm, if they r blewit, which I think they r but I'm not a "T.I." ... then make sure to cook them well. And they can also accumulate mercury so be carefull where u collect those from
Love blewits, found a healthy patch myself the other day
They fade to a white color when the sun hits em. There can be look alikes but they don't smell the same ime
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Psynonim
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Raven44]
#23850820 - 11/20/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crap I just found the paper about this. Thanks for pointing that out Raven. I think that they can be killers. We live in 2million city. The location is next to the forest, but also quite close to the traffic and all that smog that we all produce. WHO "weekly" mercury intake recommendation is 0,005 mg/kg of body mass. For me its 0.4mg/kg per week. Accumulation of mercury in unpolluted areas (cities are not those) is 20mg/kg off dry mass of Lepista nuda. But this is not a unpolluted area. Do you think guys that I should get rid of those?
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ToxicMan
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Psynonim]
#23850848 - 11/20/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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To be certain, you should make a spore print. Cortinarius have rusty brown colored spore prints, and these Clitocybes should produce a pinkish tan one. Leave a couple caps gill side down on ordinary white paper overnight so you get a nice heavy deposit of spore powder.
The primary pollutant from being in a large urban area is usually lead, from when gasoline had lead in it. The concentrations are largest near the roads and drop off pretty quickly. Also, the ability of a mushroom to concentrate some type of metal is not necessarily correlated to how well the concentrate other metals. If they were growing right beside a road that's been there for a long time, there may be issues. Lead was phased out of gasoline about 30 years ago, so roads that lacked heavy traffic that long ago are not very likely to be badly contaminated.
There is also the possibility of contamination from sources such as weed killers. If the area had a lot of weeds, that's a good sign. If it was pristine, like a golf course, that's generally not good.
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: ToxicMan]
#23850898 - 11/20/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Making one right now, but I'm 100% shure its them. Doing that for GF as noted in the first post. hey smell amazing. The grove is in between the farm fields. I think that covers weed killers contam part. I will try few anyways but I'm quite scared of them.
Thanks again Rvaen44. I was planning to cook a lot of them tonight.
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Psynonim]
#23851013 - 11/20/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They contain a chemical like morels which is toxic.
To remove it, u cook them well. And we morels u don't wanna breath the fumes.
I read the info I provided u in the book "the fungal pharmacy"
Some mushrooms hyperaccumulate shit. So yeah the levels of toxins in the environment doesn't determine the levels of toxins in the mushrooms. Could be zero in THAT mushroom species could be hyperaccumulated to levels which will cause illness like the mushrooms did to people after cherynoble the mushroomsame got huge people ate em then got radiation poisoning
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Psynonim]
#23851265 - 11/20/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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great pics and a lot of good info in this thread
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: Raven44]
#23852506 - 11/20/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Raven44, it's the False Morels that have a volatile toxin, not true morels. Gyromitrin (from False Morels) breaks down during cooking into, among other things, methylhydrazine, which is volatile and toxic and has even been used as rocket fuel. Fortunately, fatalities from eating False Morels are rare.
True Morels are also toxic raw, although the results are acute indigestion, and only likely to be fatal if inhalation pneumonia occurs.
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Raven44
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Re: Are this edible? [Re: ToxicMan]
#23852563 - 11/20/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol....
False.
Wtf man.
This info as well.came outta the fungal pharmacy
" the fumes of cooking morels can be dangerous, due to toxic hydra zines, so cook them in a well ventilated area."
Page 289.
Edited by Raven44 (11/20/16 07:46 PM)
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PluteusMaximus
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Re: Clitocybe nuda / Lepista nuda ID-ed + heavy metal contam info. [Re: Psynonim]
#23852698 - 11/20/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So how did you end up cooking them and did they taste as good as they looked?
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Raven44
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Re: Clitocybe nuda / Lepista nuda ID-ed + heavy metal contam info. [Re: PluteusMaximus]
#23852761 - 11/20/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck yes they did blewits rock the dish
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Psynonim
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Re: Clitocybe nuda / Lepista nuda ID-ed + heavy metal contam info. [Re: Raven44]
#23853196 - 11/21/16 02:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will try them then. Maybe bit by bit. Later after work I will ad links to those papers about metals content. Thanks for a lot of info everybody.
Raven - any personal favorite cooking advise?
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