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InvisibleMr. Mushrooms
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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #9852577 - 02/23/09 08:21 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Awesome photos!  :thumbup:

I never knew what Jerusalem Artichokes looked like.  I might try them this year.  I see them all the time.


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9852589 - 02/23/09 08:22 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I've given up on associations, Danny.  Morels seem to be anywhere or not at all.


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9852640 - 02/23/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

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I've given up on associations, Danny. 




Me too,but where I find them in abundance the plants and trees are as I said.I think the nearby stone quarry may have something to do with it though, too.

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9852677 - 02/23/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

STONE QUARRY?!?!?

Wouldn't happen to be something alkaline, would it?


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9852722 - 02/23/09 08:45 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

A little off-topic but:

Does anyone know what this thing is?  It looks like Burdock but it isn't.  I was on a plant rescue mission last year to save it but it was never id'ed.  I think it's some kind of exotic.



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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853010 - 02/23/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Well it's limestone that's quarried there.Wouldn't that (the dust that settles and ends up in the runoffs as a chalky sludge) neutralize any alkaline?

I've seen that plant before,don't know what they are.

Edited by DannyGlick (02/23/09 09:32 PM)

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9853038 - 02/23/09 09:33 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Fuck Danny, that's why the morels are there!  Limestone IS alkaline!

It's the same story in Illinois and probably Michigan.  pH, pH, pH!

High alkaline soil, decent runoff and enough humus to support growth.  If an area like that doesn't have morels, grab a bucket of your washwater and GO!

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853067 - 02/23/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

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Fuck Danny, that's why the morels are there!  Limestone IS alkaline!





Cool.I didn't know that.:grin:

I did notice that them sorts of places were better than others.That's why I guess.

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9853127 - 02/23/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

:suicide:


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853147 - 02/23/09 09:51 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I'm frustrating.I know. :shrug:

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9853181 - 02/23/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

No Danny, it's not that.  I'm just playing.  I do find it frustrating that so much bullshit gets slung about morels.

A little more science, please.  :lecture:

I wonder if everyone here knows about the morel maps they put up each year?


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853211 - 02/23/09 10:02 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

You mean the Morel Progression Sightings Map?

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9853239 - 02/23/09 10:08 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Yeppers.  That'd be it.

And they ask you to post your finds, AND people do!  :eek:

The forum has threads with like 3 replies and 500 views.  Plus I think the admins are mining ISP's for morel areas.  One guy even charges for tours and hunts.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853284 - 02/23/09 10:16 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Seems kinda pointless

I have a hard time NOT finding morels wherever I look.

For me, it's about waking up early enough to beat everyone else.

Last year I tried to get out by 5 a.m every day.


(not having a real job sure helps with that!)

Edited by Chaos_ultt (02/23/09 10:18 PM)

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #9853323 - 02/23/09 10:23 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

You're lucky you live where you do, Chaos.  I can go for years without finding a single morel.  My area isn't prolific.  Why?  Sour soil and poor weather.  Here it only tends to rain after it gets too hot for morels.


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853354 - 02/23/09 10:28 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Ugh talking about this is making me crazyyyy

plz hurry up spring

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853359 - 02/23/09 10:29 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I didn't mention ginseng because I never eat it, it's too valuable. I always sell what I find. I've never bothered with Oyster plants before because there is just not much to them, don't consider them worth my time. If you drink coffee than chicory is good for stretching it if your camping for long periods. Just roast the roots and seeds, grind, crush and add to the coffee, tastes pretty good. Or just eat the seeds, young leaves and flowers raw, good salad additive. Same thing for violet blossoms.

  As far as sassafras goes, don't bother with peeling the roots. All I do is rinse them the best I can to get as much of the dirt off that I can and then I bash the hell out of them and bring to a boil in water, take it off the fire and let it set still for a few hours. After it sets, gently pull the roots out and let it continue to set for another 30 minutes to an hour. Any dirt that was left on the roots will sink to the bottom of the pot and then you can dip the tea out with a cup leaving the last couple of inches of tea in the bottom of the pot, discard whats left. Or you can simply take a shit load of the leaves, crush the hell out of them and boil them to make a quicker tea. Won't be as strong but it's a lot easier.

  As far as nuts go, ya it's a bit of bother but if you're camping for long periods, or primitive camping, they're worth every bit of it. Good source of protein.

  A lot of the things I listed I learned from my Grandpa when I was a kid. He taught me a lot. Then I learned some more while I was in the Marines and a whole lot more while living in Alaska. West Virginia has a good amount of wild edibles but Alaska has tons more, you just have a shorter season to collect them. Most of what I've learned in Alaska I learned with the local native names and I don't know the english names for them. I can speak some of them but I can't write or read them.

  Oh and that plant you posted looks familiar to me. I can't remember the name of it but I think it's related to milkweed, especially if it had a white milky juice when cut or broke. Out of curiosity, what state did you find it in? And can I e-mail a copy of the picture to a plant guy I know? He might be able to give a specific id for it, but then again he might not be able to, worth a try though.

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: gandalf579]
    #9853407 - 02/23/09 10:38 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Hey, that's pretty cool, Gandalf.  Thanks for sharing that.  If you want you can e-mail the photo to your friend.  It was found in Ohio.  I think the sap was milky too.  Just make sure and tell him the photo is copyright protected.  You have rights to use it from me, Mr. Mushrooms.

Every year I tell myself I'll try chicory and every year I pass it by.  Too busy with the mushrooms mostly.  Good word on the salsify though.  Maybe I'll try that too.

As far as 'sang goes, I've never picked a single plant.  They are too rare in our area for me to do that in good conscience.


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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9853637 - 02/23/09 11:26 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Your welcomed. As far as your photo goes, he'll delete the copy I send him after he ids it if he can. He's a university botany professor so he should be able to id it and if not it will bug the hell out of him until he does id it.

  As to the 'sang, here in West Virginia it's strictly regulated. Any abusers of the season could face jail time and hefty fines both.

  I'm still fuming over the asshole that dug up all of my plants (over 100) that were on my land last year even though he was caught. He's serving 10 years for it (and another 10 to 20 for crack production) but that doesn't do anything for me, I'll never see any of the money they would have produced. The fucker was dirt poor so I won't see any money from him and the cops seized all of his property for cooking up crack. Some of those plants were transplanted by my great great grandfather and added to from every generation.

  The land has been in my family since colonial times. Unless I have kids to hand it down to I'll probably pass it on to one of my cousins if one of them is interested and will keep the land and buildings kept up. Otherwise I don't know what's going to happen to it because I'll be going back home to Alaska by this time next year and I won't be able to keep coming back here all the time to check on it. Maybe once or twice a year if I'm lucky.

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Re: Morel Hunting Info [Re: gandalf579]
    #9853699 - 02/23/09 11:36 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

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I'm still fuming over the asshole that dug up all of my plants (over 100) that were on my land last year even though he was caught. He's serving 10 years for it (and another 10 to 20 for crack production) but that doesn't do anything for me, I'll never see any of the money they would have produced. The fucker was dirt poor so I won't see any money from him and the cops seized all of his property for cooking up crack. Some of those plants were transplanted by my great great grandfather and added to from every generation.





Damn!  That makes me angry and sad at the same time.  My stomach flip/flopped when I read it and my face is probably the color of ash.  I don't know if I mentioned it before but the only 'sang I ever planted was to replenish an area raped by sangers because the local newspaper printed the location and published photos of some 7 year-old roots from a public area.  After that, it was never seen again.  So, I planted some to increase the biodiversity.

At least the bastard is in jail.  Like you say though, a lot of good it does you, or the plants passed down the generations from your family.

What a sad, tragic waste.


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