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Notification about changes concerning private messages
    #2323366 - 02/11/04 08:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This notification has been emailed today to all Shroomery members. In case that somebody didn't receive it, I will repost it here.

As of today, all the members together have nearly 300,000 stored private messages (PMs).
According to the statistics, around 20%(!!) of those have never been read at all, leading to the conclusion that they are on abandoned accounts.

We would like to reduce this number of stored messages considerably for 2 main reasons:
1. These message occupy nearly 300 MB of database space. This is something which is usually not a major problem for the database, but in the event of a database crash with corrupted tables it makes the recovery process longer. In addition to this there is always a chance that some data can not be recovered and is then lost forever.
2. The second probably more important reason is the amount of personal information stored in those PMs. This is a GREAT security risk for our members in the (unlikely but possible) event that the government seizes the server together with all the information that is on it.

We would like to keep the amount of stored PMs on the server as small as possible without making the use of the PMs undesirable.

Thus we would like the people go through the messages and download the ones they want to keep through the email message function.

Instructions on how to use this function can be found under the following URL:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=2323212

Please go through your messages NOW.
Starting 1 Week from today all private messages older than 90 days will be deleted in regular intervals. So please keep the amount of stored private messages to a minimum and always secure the messages that are important to you by the use of the email PM function and delete them from server.
Don't forget to secure also the stored sent PMs should you have any.

Thank you for your understanding,
For the Shroomery administration,
Anno


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Anno]
    #2323376 - 02/11/04 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The PM 2 Email needs 2 be altered. It fill the email address 4 times in the From. And 2 times in the To. And the reply To also has the reply address in there twice.

This might speed up the sending and recieving of the email.  :wink:


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Fliquid]
    #2323392 - 02/11/04 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It works normally for me.
What exactly is the problem?


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Anno]
    #2323435 - 02/11/04 10:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is there a way we can just forward the messages we want to keep back to ourselves so they wont be 90 days old? I just have a desent amount of messages that I'd like to keep w/o filling up my e-mail...


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: DailyPot]
    #2323444 - 02/11/04 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Obviously not, this would defeat the whole goal of this change.

You can always download your emails to your computer and file the PMs locally.


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Anno]
    #2323455 - 02/11/04 10:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Fliquid]
    #2323458 - 02/11/04 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Anno]
    #2323478 - 02/11/04 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, we'll see what happens then. I really recieved it in the way i explained.

How long has this PM 2 Email been running so far?


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Re: Notification about changes concerning personal messages [Re: Fliquid]
    #2323485 - 02/11/04 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

>How long has this PM 2 Email been running so far?
Several months.


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: Anno]
    #2324079 - 02/11/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: ]
    #2324202 - 02/11/04 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Although I cannot speak for the admin on this, I would assume that special cases could be made for exemption.  :smile:


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: ]
    #2324205 - 02/11/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> I suspect some other covert reason is the one really behind it.

Like what for instance?


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: ]
    #2324217 - 02/11/04 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

just hit the 'check all' button followed by the 'email pm' button, it's not that hard.

Rather than deleting after 90 days though I think it would be better to limit the number of stored messages, so everyone has a quota of say 50 PM's


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2324240 - 02/11/04 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

>I think it would be better to limit the number of stored messages, so everyone has a quota of say 50 PM's

So when the someone sends him the 51th message it is not delivered??


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: Anno]
    #2324248 - 02/11/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's a secret plot to annoy important people who have loads of stored PM's, and make them feel like any old average user


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2324687 - 02/11/04 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

MetaShroom said:
just hit the 'check all' button followed by the 'email pm' button




That's a good point, MetaShroom. Thanks! :smile:

PS: The two reasons Anno stated are the only two reasons for this. This idea initially came up out of performance concerns (the same as the expiration and archiving of old threads in certain forums), and the second security reason definitely closed the deal. All of the Admins discussed this thoroughly, and we all agreed. I don't know about the others, but I do know that Thor and I both have over 4,000 incoming PMs saved, and thousands of outgoing PMs, that we're going to lose if we don't backup via e-mail, and we're in favor of it -- for the exact reasons Anno mentioned above.


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: Papaver]
    #2324892 - 02/11/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Does this also affect pms stored in the Sent messages folder?


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: adrug]
    #2324928 - 02/11/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: ]
    #2325221 - 02/11/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:lol: Mr Mushrooms u rock hehe, where the heck you been at man? haven't seen you around for a while..

I guess i have some PM's ill be deleting.....


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Re: Notification about changes concerning private messages [Re: ]
    #2325238 - 02/11/04 07:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

M_M, Check your PM's  :grin:


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