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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16920241 - 09/27/12 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
You must have set it up a long time ago.  You need to make a new one.  You'll need to ask the sender to resend after you do this.



Also note that if you recreate your passkey/file pair,
you won't be able to read any of your previous secure messages.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #16926400 - 09/28/12 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I had an issue a few days ago in which I had to recreate my keypair.

It's a password I'd never forget and obviously meant for this place and this place only.

Did anything glitch in the system? I lost a lot of encrypted PMs after having to do the change.

Glitch in the Matrix? I can guarantee it's 100% not something I'd forget here.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Adden]
    #16926406 - 09/28/12 08:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My password doesn't work anymore either.

:shrug:


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #16991538 - 10/08/12 11:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You guys need to save the key locally so you can reload it from the saved file. Otherwise, you can create a new key, but you won't be able to read any old PM encrypted with the old key.

I've had to reload mine several times over the years.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Diploid]
    #16991568 - 10/09/12 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But see - I was using the correct key.
Something happened that corrupted the internal record.
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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #16991737 - 10/09/12 12:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh that's weird. I've had it lose my key, but when I load it again from the backup, it works fine.

I don't mean the password, I mean the PGP key itself. It's a text file that looks like this:

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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Diploid]
    #16991807 - 10/09/12 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have multiple copies of the key file saved in various places.
It's the single-word password that doesn't work.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #16992557 - 10/09/12 02:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So it's still not working for you now, right?

Someone is asking me for help setting his up and it's not working. Wonder if I should just wait rather than waste time if there's a systemic problem.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Diploid]
    #16992565 - 10/09/12 02:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It works now since I did a new password/key set.
I saved the old one in case I want to try again later.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Anno]
    #18149098 - 04/22/13 07:40 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think my private messages are sending.

I typed my message, had a recipient, clicked "continue" and "ok, submit" and the same window refreshes and shows my message, and has "ok, submit" at the bottom. It says nothing about if my message has been sent or not. On my account page it doesn't show that I've sent a message...

Any ideas?


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Ythan]
    #21625213 - 05/02/15 05:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ythan said:
The admins are always looking for ways to help ensure your guys' privacy and security. We are pleased to offer a new feature which seamlessly integrates military-grade public-key encryption with our BB's private messaging interface. This new functionality will allow you to send PMs which are virtually impossible to intercept, and can only be decrypted by the intended recipient. You can enable it on your account through a quick setup process and then it's possible to exchange secure messages with any other members who also have it enabled.

We have taken many precautions to ensure the integrity of secure private messages on the Shroomery. Our system uses standard PGP encryption and SSL is utilized for all communication with the site. We never store any sensitive information on our server and temp files are securely wiped immediately after use. From a technical standpoint, encrypted private messages are significantly more secure than regular e-mail, and offer about the same amount of privacy as Hushmail and similar services. Hopefully this will come in handy when people have sensitive correspondence which they wish to keep safe.

Follow this link to enable secure private messages on your account.

Once the process is complete, you will notice an "encrypt this message" option at the bottom of new private messages. Check this box when you're contacting another member with secure PMs enabled, and your messages will be locked down with unbreakable encryption. The recipient simply has to enter their passphrase to display the original content. If they haven't enabled secure PMs yet, you'll be given the option to send the message unencrypted. It's that simple!

Please report any problems so we can get the bugs ironed out. Also feel free to ask any questions or make suggestions about the new functionality. We hope you enjoy this feature and find it useful!




The only issue i see with this that the private key is stored on your server's it should be store locally be a gov or law enforcement can seize your server's and have all the private keys, but i love the fact that shroomery admins are trying to protect their member's

be safe -milonix


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: milonix] * 1
    #21627455 - 05/03/15 05:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's true that it's not as secure as doing the encryption client-side, because we do temporarily need a copy of your private key to decrypt a message. However, we don't store these on the server, your browser sends us your private key over HTTPS when you want to decrypt a message. We display the message to you, also over HTTPS, then your private key and all other files related to the decryption are securely wiped from storage. Even if our servers are seized, secure PMs should remain protected by PGP-grade encryption. It's not a perfect system, but we did try to make it as safe as possible while keeping it relatively simple to use. :smile:


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Ythan]
    #21627940 - 05/03/15 06:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ythan said:
It's true that it's not as secure as doing the encryption client-side, because we do temporarily need a copy of your private key to decrypt a message. However, we don't store these on the server, your browser sends us your private key over HTTPS when you want to decrypt a message. We display the message to you, also over HTTPS, then your private key and all other files related to the decryption are securely wiped from storage. Even if our servers are seized, secure PMs should remain protected by PGP-grade encryption. It's not a perfect system, but we did try to make it as safe as possible while keeping it relatively simple to use. :smile:




Well I am grateful, Also if the key are sent over HTTPS why isnt the whole site HTTPS? its seems that would make it more secure .. maybe I am wrong, anyways i love this site even tho i am new here, ill be here for a long time, hopefully i make some great friends here


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: milonix]
    #21629013 - 05/03/15 04:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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milonix said:
Well I am grateful, Also if the key are sent over HTTPS why isnt the whole site HTTPS? its seems that would make it more secure .. maybe I am wrong, anyways i love this site even tho i am new here, ill be here for a long time, hopefully i make some great friends here





We tried that but the speed of the site slowed to a crawl.  We do offer that option for supporters.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21629144 - 05/03/15 05:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

milonix said:
Well I am grateful, Also if the key are sent over HTTPS why isnt the whole site HTTPS? its seems that would make it more secure .. maybe I am wrong, anyways i love this site even tho i am new here, ill be here for a long time, hopefully i make some great friends here





We tried that but the speed of the site slowed to a crawl.  We do offer that option for supporters.




I guess ill be supporting soon, where can i find the perks of supporting?


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: milonix]
    #21629206 - 05/03/15 06:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

  • SSL Encrypted Connections
    Connect to the main page and forums via SSL. Full support for the SPDY protocol accelerates your browsing.

  • "Supporter" Status Flag
    Optional special "S" flag by your name, similar to "M" and "A" flags for mods and admins.

  • Unrestricted Image Uploads
    Supporters can upload as many images as they want, as long as each image is under 5MB.

  • Backup Image Archives
    You can download a ZIP file containing all the images you have uploaded to the forums.

  • Personalized Email Address
    100MB storage with a user friendly secure web based client and POP3/SMTP/IMAP support.

  • Personal Web Space
    Free hosting for your images and HTML. Currently JS and server-side scripts are not allowed, sorry!

  • Larger Avatars
    Supporters can have avatars with larger dimensions (currently 120x120 vs 80x80).

  • Increased Signature Length
    Supporters can have 1,500 characters in their signature vs. 750 for non-supporters.

  • Custom Username Colors
    Select a custom color or gradient for your displayed username.

  • No Banner Ads
    All advertising can be disabled for supporters.

  • Improved Privacy Controls
    Supporters can prevent their threads from being indexed by search engines, and opt to receive only encrypted private messages.

  • Access to the exclusive supporter-only forums.


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Re: New Feature: Secure Private Messages! [Re: TimmiT]
    #21630168 - 05/03/15 10:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TimmiT said:
  • SSL Encrypted Connections
    Connect to the main page and forums via SSL. Full support for the SPDY protocol accelerates your browsing.

  • "Supporter" Status Flag
    Optional special "S" flag by your name, similar to "M" and "A" flags for mods and admins.

  • Unrestricted Image Uploads
    Supporters can upload as many images as they want, as long as each image is under 5MB.

  • Backup Image Archives
    You can download a ZIP file containing all the images you have uploaded to the forums.

  • Personalized Email Address
    100MB storage with a user friendly secure web based client and POP3/SMTP/IMAP support.

  • Personal Web Space
    Free hosting for your images and HTML. Currently JS and server-side scripts are not allowed, sorry!

  • Larger Avatars
    Supporters can have avatars with larger dimensions (currently 120x120 vs 80x80).

  • Increased Signature Length
    Supporters can have 1,500 characters in their signature vs. 750 for non-supporters.

  • Custom Username Colors
    Select a custom color or gradient for your displayed username.

  • No Banner Ads
    All advertising can be disabled for supporters.

  • Improved Privacy Controls
    Supporters can prevent their threads from being indexed by search engines, and opt to receive only encrypted private messages.

  • Access to the exclusive supporter-only forums.





Thats awesome


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