Brown Buffalo said:

How did you consume it? Ive tried different methods to smoke 1x always with poor results..

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Brown Buffalo said:

How did you consume it? Ive tried different methods to smoke 1x always with poor results..

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DurgaDurg said:

i just got an ounce of plain leaf and a gram of 5x in the mail

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Peyote Road said:

had another trip with the bong, more intense this time. Wow, salvia is so awesome. I cant believe so many people dont like it. Its friggin' awesome, amazing euphoria, beautiful visuals.

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Happy for you Peyote Road. Finally someone who does it right. It's great to meet the lady, or the entity, or whatever, and have her tell you she'll be there for you.

I had the same thing on a 5x extract. I don't see the need for stronger extracts either. I did 10x once, and it was too much. Besides, from what I heard, if you really do too much you get evil aliens telling you your life has been nothing but a charade. What's the joy in that?

I still have plenty of 5x, and will get some plain leaf too. Still have to combine quidding and smoking one day.

High point of my salvia adventures was benevolent godlike and omniscient child beings telling me the way to heaven was incredibly short, and that I would always be welcome among them. They then gave me some kind of token of our bond and I almost cried when I had to tell them I could not take it back to my own dimension. It was short but life changing.

Love, Hanz.

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my prayer life has improved so much I am actually questioning whether i still need enthegens. I love them so, but I feel there is risk involved, whereas prayer is extremely safe.

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Peyote Road said:

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the disadvantage of prayer and meditation is that it can be extremwly hard to break through certain blockages and to avoid distraction. i was struggling so much trying to meditate and pray that i turned to entheogens, and they helped so much. the disadvantage with entheogens as i see it is they can take you too far, delude you or cause damage.

I feel very lucky and grateful to have come out of all this entheogen usage, healed and a better peson, vs more damaged and i dont want to push my luck. What do you guys think? I was even planning a mushroom tip for next weekend and now i am thinking id better only take  a low dose.

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Great stuff.

Prayer, both sober and on cannabis, did a lot for my spiritual growth. It's always good to fall back on, but I've been doing it less since I've grown older. However, it is still the one thing you can always do anywhere regardless of drugs etc. I really should get back into it more these days... I never struggled with it though, I just went for the entheogens for kicks

It's very good that you feel so lucky. Never push that luck without good reason. But don't dose too low. Better not trip at all then, and save it for another day. If in doubt, don't trip, or it will come back to haunt you.

All the best!

Love, Hanz.

Achillita said:

If you gave someone new to psychedelics 7 grams of mushrooms or a ten strip for their first trip, I bet they'd hate it too.

But I do love salvia, and she is one amazing plant.

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This. I always say this about those guys who are surprised at what happens to them after smoking a full bowl of 60x for their first time. Remember that kid way back in school who wanted to know why adults drink, and drank a liter of vodka in 12 minutes? Why do the same with salvia... But if you're not informed it is hard to believe how potent those higher extracts are.

Hanz.

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IMO, salvia is the most anti-addiction/anti-habit psychedelic there is. It really makes you just want to be you and focus on other things.

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Peyote Road said:

So my order of salvia finally came today. if you don't want to read the background, you can skip a couple of paragraphs and go straight to the report.

Background:

Last time I tried salvia was when it was legal and it was my first drug besides weed/acohol. I had one of those extracts and had no idea what I was doing, proceeded to have the most terrifying trip of my entire life and was really put off of ever using salvia again after that.

This time I decided to go with plain leaf. I was still scared, even though I have come along way and weathered many intense trips on various substances since then. Anyway, I spent the day watching those crazy salvia videos on youtube, which are hilarious but also sad as they are very disrespectful to the herb and downright spiritually/psychologically dangerous to the tripper.  However, I could emphasize with the people in the videos because I had done the same thing when I was young.

Anyway, I find plain leaf to be so much better. You can actually control how high you get, so you don't accidentally go off the deep end. I have learned over the years that when working with entheogens, you start small and work your way up.

trip report: I cautiously took one hit and held the smoke for about 10 seconds. Instantly I was transported back to the feeling of that fateful day in my dorm room when I first broke through, a shiver went down my spine and I started to get very afraid. I reminded myself this was only a low dose and that I would be ok. I closed my eyes and could see fractal patterns whooshing through my visual field. After a few minutes nothing more happened, so I took a couple more hits.

This time I could sense a feminine presence. I turned my attention toward the feeling and as soon as I did so she began to speak me.  "Why are you so frightened?" she asked, while at the same time illuminating my mind with her light. I said to her, I am afraid of change (which in the presence of her light I could clearly see was what I feared most of all). She laughed and said, you fear the one thing that is absolutely inevitable. When she said this, my fear turned to laughter as I couldn't help but see the absurdity of my situation. But I also felt sorrow, because I knew there was still more fear and more clingyness I had yet to face. I pleaded with her for help. Then she said, "don't worry, I am here for you" and I felt comforted and a wave of peace flowed through me. I basked in her presence for a moment or two and then the trip ended (smoked salvia trips are of very short duration).

Now about an hour and a half later, I am feeling very peaceful and grateful.  Rather than feeling worn out and somewhat let down like I often do after taking other entheogens, I feel better than I did before the trip.

I am excited to work more with this amazing plant. I like plain leaf so much more than extract. Its dfficult to smoke a high dose so you dont have to worry about accidentally going off the deep end.

I've read some mazetec shamans believed that Salvia is an incarnation of the Virgin Mary. Could that have been with whom I was speaking?

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Hi,

no the virgin Mary is bullshit I'm afraid. Sorry... Just forget about it. American shamans got spiked with the christian infection at some point. It is a big shame. Christian bacteria has spread so wild and caused so much damage...

Please send me a PM if you wish, I have some advice for you but I cannot type anymore here now, and I'm afraid that I will forget to come back here to finish it off.

Virgin mary... 

Dr. Delban said:

Virgin mary... 

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Lol, funny, but why so skeptic? The negative, that I don't deny exists, does not have to cloud the positive.

I'm no christian, but can still accept the concept of the divine virgin as a useful metaphor for Lady Salvia. What does it all matter anyway, open up and rejoice

So, yee for Lady Salvia as the Holy Virgin, of whatever kind. May she love and guide us all when we're out on the sacred herb.



Love, Hanz.