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OfflineCaptBeefheart
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Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report!
    #1270450 - 02/02/03 09:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It was midnight when I decided to take the plunge. Having listened thoroughly to Terence Mckenna over the past few weeks, he has taught me that there is more to tripping on magic mushrooms than getting wasted with your friends. The fundamental idea that it isn?t a recreational pursuit, but a tool for learning and a catalyst for ideas, intrigued me.
But even stranger than this was the prospect of trying it in quiet isolation, with no music, no lights and no one around to anchor my sanity with. Based on my previous LSD experiences, the thought was terrifying. You see, LSD has a habit of turning on you and convincing you at times, there is no escape from its often menacing imagery.

So I ate 5 dried grams of Mexican Psilocybin Cubenesis.

I couldn?t believe how quickly it came on (even on previous lower doses).
Within 20minutes I had begun my ascent. I had decided to have my blue strip light on and listen to some Brian Eno for the first hour, just to get myself grounded and my mind at peace. The ceiling started to pulse like an electrical grid and I was quickly embraced by a new dimension. It was showtime! Feeling at ease with the concept of isolation in this state, I turned off the music and lay on my bed. With the aid of an American airlines eye mask, I plunged myself into blackness and isolation. But things were far from black.

The patterns and intricate geometry came on fast and I seemed to be surrounded by light and existing in an abyss of green colour. Shadows flickered in this place like people walking past me, but as I looked up they were gone. I got deeper and deeper into this constantly evolving dimension of fractal physics. Complexity at work.

I was eased into this state as if it was the most natural place to be. All I could see now were a million eyes upon me, each one a purple glow, but each independent of seeing me A guiding sense was with me and I felt constant reassurance and dare I say it, Love. I remember looking up to see the most glorious and expansive roof design, commenting aloud, ? My, such architecture!?
Now I sensed Intelligence. The strong feeling that I was not alone and far from isolated. The constant reassurance was now a being. I felt myself standing on the side of a geometric shape; I was actually touching an hallucination. At this point a shadow person came into my field of vision, partially blocking the light and without communication; I sat up and leaned forward. This being leant out and wiped away at my forehead, my third eye.

Now there was clarity, the unseen were now seen. I was now being taken to meet the boss. The maternal entity that I had sensed all along, was now allowing me to see it.
Like a child at Christmas I looked up to see the most divine thing.

It was an Octopus. The size of the universe!
Its tentacles reached out beyond my sight and each one contained millions more of eyes, each one independent, but all connected and part of the Octopus. Immediately I was transfixed by the notion that this is how the universe works and that we are all eyes on the tentacles of God! There also seemed to be a backdrop of other eyes not connected to the Octopus. A kind of council or cabinet to the Prime minister/president, if you will.
Suddenly I was curled up by the most graceful tentacle and embraced by the octopus. Never have I felt such love. I was then curled back out and let go while others were embraced. This cycle went on for a while and each time I got the Octopus?s attention I asked different questions.

On the subject of the universe I asked ?How does this all work??
It replied ?There is only one rule??absolutely nothing!?
It continued, ?You see, it?s not about the stimulus of human vision, It?s about the revolution and evolution of one?s mind.?

On the subject of death, I was shown the word DEATH, which began to melt and the voice said, ?See that dissolve?....It?s about waking up!?. I was in ego loss territory now and had no idea who I was or where I was.

Whether this Octopus was the only entity I met, I?m not sure. I kept repeating the name of Jhamal Swheety for no reason, when contemplating its meaning, I was told it was the entity?s name.

I was then shown more complex geometry and an image of a thousand men each with their own thoughts displayed in bubbles, except all the thought bubbles were actually fragments of the same bubble. You see, once again the concept of a big one-ness that is fragmented into billions of individualities, was shown to me. This is the biggest psychedelic clich? that there is, that we are all one and that one is God (or Jhamal the Octopus as he likes to be known).
I was also taken through some kind of birthing process and recall existing in a womb, feeling safe,loved and in suspended animation. I also existed as mycelium growth and then grew into a mushroom itself, quite a revealing process of nature?s work!

I had been in this dimension now for 4 hours and then I quickly drifted down to normality.
I recall hoping that the afterlife wasn?t as complex as what I had just experienced. I wanted to exist in simplicity when I die, not this chaotic slipstream of ideas. I longed for normal life back and linear thinking. At that point, after being given so much insight into a new realm of physics, I longed for boredom with nothing on my mind, knowing full well that I would never really be bored again. Like a wish granted I returned to my life and feel transformed forever.
I now have a renewed enthusiasm for the human experience. I am of the opinion that the magic mushroom exists in nature precisely to do that job. Although I feel it can?t show you what life after death is all about, I think it invites you to experience the concept of eternity, freedom with no chain of command and above all, inter-dimensional travelling which is practise for the real journey yet to come, at the end of our lives.

We, as a human experience, are just as much of a trip as 5 grams of shrooms. It?s just different. Of course, try telling me that when my credit card bill comes in this week and there Isn?t ?Jhamal the God like Octopus?, to curl me up, give me a cuddle and pay the damn bill!



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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1270487 - 02/02/03 09:18 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Amazing trip report. It all sounds so magical. Especially experiencing being a mushroom from mycelium to the fruiting stage. I've been planning a 5 gram dose in complete darkness and silence..


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1270508 - 02/02/03 09:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I always find it very peculiar that darkness is SO BRIGHT and that silence can get SO LOUD.

Great report, man :smile: Tell Jhamal I said "hi" next time.


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: Strumpling]
    #1270582 - 02/02/03 09:50 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Definately agree! I don't recall a moment of darkness. I do recommend the 5g dose in darkness, to everyone but only when you are ready, you will know when the time is right. I can't really see myself doing it again, although trying it with different strains over time could be interesting.
My next 5 gram dose will be out in nature with a friend, goofing around. I haven't really done the nature trip yet, I think it will be my favourite and I can't wait to really see nature in action.

Jhamal loves you all !


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1270677 - 02/02/03 10:38 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Did you find that you were still "in control" to a certain extent? The highest dose I've experienced was 4 grams, but at that time I still felt like I was "me". I could still carry on a conversation (a very strange conversation, I'll admit), and I was still aware of my obligation to act a certain way and not flip out.. To me mushrooms don't really seem to forcefully change the way you think, like some drugs I could mention. Do you know what I mean?

Were you in the type of mindset that you could have acted completely out of character?


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: Revelation]
    #1270983 - 02/02/03 12:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You are correct, you are still in control even at 5 grams. I have had ego loss before on LSD and felt terrified because of the lack of control. The magical thing about mushrooms is that it feels natural and comforting to be that high, at no point was I not myself. If anything it felt like I was my true self and it was easier to retain information, in such a quickening of ideas, than any other drug I have done.

I'd say the only difference between 4 and 5 grams is the sheer volume of visuals.
I found visuals a little lacking on lower doses, but 5 grams really does the trick. Also I think contact with entities is more vivid and real than the hints you get on lower doses. If you can handle 4 grams then you can definately deal with 5, if anything your trip will be the best it can be and not too heavy like you may think.


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1271062 - 02/02/03 01:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

It was an Octopus. The size of the universe!
Its tentacles reached out beyond my sight and each one contained millions more of eyes, each one independent, but all connected and part of the Octopus. Immediately I was transfixed by the notion that this is how the universe works and that we are all eyes on the tentacles of God!





Check out the book, lsd psycotherpy, it sorta teachs you to see, the meaning behind hallucinations! For example, the octopus in your trip was just a visual way of explaining god (all in one)to you! However on my trips its more like my field of vision/kalidascope would be considered all in one. Kinda hard to explain, your mind will truely teach you, it being visually, or auditory, which ever way it thinks it can get the message across! The message of all in one is god!


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It’s about the revolution and evolution of one’s mind.”




2003 to 2012, check out my post, The second coming of christ, for true concieus people it will be a revolution, and evolution of the mind

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after being given so much insight into a new realm of physics




Hey man can you go into better detail here?, my bro had a trip like that, but not much happened on it.

Quote:

We, as a human experience, are just as much of a trip as 5 grams of shrooms. It’s just different




I believe you dude, yes different serotinin based inhibitors, 4-ho-dmt to (natual body) dmt. i sorta see what your talking about

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I now have a renewed enthusiasm for the human experience




After my mescaline trip, me too!



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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1271168 - 02/02/03 02:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

wow man.. that was beautiful. 5 shrooms for you :-)

my thoughts on the whole octopus deal is that an octopus is how you chose to percieve the Everything. But this is how shit like different religions killing each others comes about, because one guys camel isnt another guys llama. But ya know what, its all the same, cuz its all part of the Everything. That imagery and personification has to do with who YOU are :-)


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: SnuffelzFurever]
    #1271289 - 02/02/03 03:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Great report! I've had a similar vision... I just have one question... Was the octopus a glowing neon blue? Crazy! I had a weird experience with a neon blue octopus and it kept holding on to all these things and all the things he would hold on to would just end up stretching and hurting it self. Just like buddhist teachings of non-grasping and that all grasping only creates suffering. (It was before I even knew what buddism was though.)


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1271331 - 02/02/03 03:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

nice report man

*sigh*...I miss tripping


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1272156 - 02/02/03 09:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

missing tripping is fun


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: Strumpling]
    #1272194 - 02/02/03 10:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

lol since when

no..it sucks :wink:


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1272313 - 02/02/03 11:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for sharing that trip report with us, it was really great!

Hopefully re-integration with normal reality didnt prove too difficult..







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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: Nova]
    #1272448 - 02/03/03 01:36 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Nova, that is crazy!!!!!! The Octopus I saw was a glowing neon blue! So we have had the same hallucination. That is truely weird.

Johnnyfive, I'm afraid I can't go into detail about the new realm of physics. There was so much to comprehend on that trip that I didn't make any physics notes, I mainly took notes on visuals and my communications. Although I was told that the only rule was 'absolutely nothing'.
Maybe the octopus imagery came about because as a child, I went deep sea fishing and helped catch an octopus. When I tried to play with it, it wrapped its tentacles around my arm and wouldn't let go. It was an awsome experience and I've always been fascinated by them, maybe the trip used that imagery because I would be automaticaly awestruck.

I'm overjoyed that you all liked my trip report, I have returned nicely to normality
although yesterday, trying to tell my friends about it, I turned into a cross between a stuttering Ozzy osbourne and Dennis Hopper in Apocolypse Now !!!


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1273361 - 02/03/03 09:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I had a quick look on Google to see if there was any mention of octopus related symbolism, or anything to do with the 'collective unconscience' which I thought you might find interesting

Octopus - The spiral, water, subconscious.

and also

Octopus - Octopus is a way-shower through the shadow. I have very little water in my nature and octopus has come to me as a guide to help mediate that which is by nature my shadow.

The octopus has a built in defense system to guard against negative attack. She teaches us to guard against those negative persons and situations that might otherwise harm us. Octopus People often experience very emotional dreams as well as a lot of emotional healing through the Dream State. Finally octopus teaches us to approach all things not with the intent to destroy, but with universal love, strength, and faith.

http://www.owlsdottir.com/totems/power_animals.html


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: Edame]
    #1273689 - 02/03/03 10:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The octopus is also one of the smartest ocean creatures.  :laugh:


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1273757 - 02/03/03 10:49 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

WOW!! man, I had a feeling that your trip would be awe-inspiring. I remember the forum you started asking if you should go through with it. The Octopus could be a symbol for all religions, like all the different religions are the tenticles and the body is God. That's just what I got from the report. If I was rich, Id have a necklace made for you, I know a glassworker who does excelent glass octopi pendants. He puts an uncut opal stone in the body so the glass magnifies it and all the colors of the rainbow flash out of the stone. Here is something else that you may decide to buy:

http://www.happypipes.com/main.html



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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: bluesky]
    #1273836 - 02/03/03 11:20 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Lol!  :grin:Fantastic, an octopus bong!!! Yep, it certainly was a fascinating evening. Maybe the octopus is my guardian?! Its strange but there was a definate underwater feel to the trip and other trippers I have spoken to have had marine life imagery in their trips.
I had no idea that the octopus had such importance in symolism, thanks for the info
Edame! 


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1274032 - 02/03/03 12:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Your trip report is Nicely Written, and Brings a whole new level of insight to my mind..

I think this weekend i'll grab another 5 grams and Try a good solo trip

it sounds soo much like a Trip i had once.. soo soo much.

The octopus and the Shadow man and the feeling of love were all there.. but then i was abruptly pulled outta the world by my friends entering the room..


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Re: Is God really an Octopus? A level 5 trip report! [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1274052 - 02/03/03 12:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

In Food Of The Gods by Terrance McKenna on page 251 he has a little piece called "Consider The Octopus"
"an octopus does not communicate with small mouth noises, even though water is a good medium for acoustic signaling. Rather , the octopus becomes it`s own linguistic intent. Octopi have a large repertoire of color changes, dots, blushes, and traveling bars that move across there surface. The repertoire in combination with the soft bodied physique of the creature allows it to obscure and reveal its linguistic intent simply by rapidly folding and unfolding the changing part`s of it`s body. THE MIND AND BODY OF THE OCTOPUS ARE THE SAME AND HENCE EQUALLY VISIBLE;the octopus wears it`s language like a second skin"

he goes on, but you see were he`s going with this :grin:
Just something for ya to ponder over Captianbeefheart :wink: 


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