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 wombatvvv
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 Stop the stupid trip reports   2
#574462 - 03/09/02 06:20 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been reading the trip reports for a while now but 75% of them contain pot smoking. As soon as I see the word "bowl" or "joint" or whatever I imediatley stop reading that report. Why?
1) I think the chances are good that it's a young kid getting stoned and talking shit
2) (for the experienced smokers that really do drip stoned) it distorts the trip. I want to hear about the mushroom, not pot.
I actually read one where the guy had a gram or so then smoked some *hash* then a few buckets. I mean common. He's liable to be hallucinating just off the hash - if it was good stuff, that is. Let alone the buckets. In any case it was more of a "pot report" than "trip report"
Write your "Stoned Reports" somewhere else.
My 2 cents worth.
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 Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv]
#574482 - 03/09/02 07:05 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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i gave a trip report in the trip tips forum about my san pedro experience. I am a fairly experienced smoker, and not just a young kid getting stoned and taken some "caps". I even explained the effects that THC had on the mescaline trip, but I had plenty of time to experience the mesc without the effect of bud. So don't stereotype all stoners as having hollow words, because were not all unreliable, immature kids.
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 Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: CuckoosNest]
#574711 - 03/10/02 01:04 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't stereotype all stoners.
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 Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 2
#574745 - 03/10/02 02:27 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it is very important to experience the shroom trip and only the shroom trip. But I'm sure many people will still consume other drugs and misinterpret the experience as a shroom trip.
I agree that trip reports on the Shroomery should keep it about the mushrooms to be fair.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 3
#574782 - 03/10/02 04:05 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think you may have a point about mixing drugs in with the experience changing it but calling the thread "stop the stupid threads" makes everyone who decided to post a trip report including another drug feel like their being called stupid.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 6
#574790 - 03/10/02 04:19 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a rather ignorant thing to say.
I trip on mushrooms alone some times. Most of the time, actually. Some times I mix mushrooms with other drugs. I don't think it "distorts the trip" at all, though. I find that it (usually) enhances the trip, and even strengthens the trip at times.
If I write a trip report where I happened to smoke some pot/oil/whatever, I'm still talking about the trip, not just the pot. And the mushrooms are still (and always will be) the strongest aspect of any trip I have the pleasure of taking. Just because I mixed, doesn't make the mushrooms dissapear from the trip.
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 Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 1
#574797 - 03/10/02 04:40 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find that pot doesn't really act normally on shrooms. It potentiates the experience.. I never feel stoned when smoking with shrooms.. things just become more intense. Pot really helped me break through a couple of trips ago 
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: MagicRooms]
#574828 - 03/10/02 05:45 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with you but the exeption to the rule for me is syrian rue.
S+M= ++++++
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: LOBO]
#574837 - 03/10/02 06:09 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hate smoking pot with mushies 2 things
makes it fuck scary like vampires and shit
and i get so so so tired !!!!!!!!
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 2
#574898 - 03/10/02 09:32 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why don't we just stop doing everything we do at the Shroomery?
My friend and I have a saying "you're not tripping until you've smoked". I've never tripped without smoking at least some resin. It seems like a waste of a trip without weed because it takes at least twice as long for the shrooms or whatever to kick in. I could take a quarter of shrooms and not feel it for an hour into it, or start tripping balls after 25 minutes or so. Plus weed makes visuals. I can't imagine tripping without weed. It would be a waste for me.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Learyfan]
#575126 - 03/10/02 03:34 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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When I read alot of the trip reports I seem to see alot of "Sterotypical" stoners doing it, like "Johnny skateboarder wants a new way to get fucked up so he eats shrooms". I don't fit into that category and I'd like to at least see the reports separated into different types of personalities.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: GringoLoco]
#575129 - 03/10/02 03:42 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh well, it's a case of courses for horses, I guess. I personally don't read the mixed drug reports, though.
This is a thought: maybe some people smoke so much pot that it stops effecting them (which definatley does happen!) and so it doesn't do much to the shroom trip - but I can almost guarantee that if you didn't smoke pot for a while (over two weeks) then smoked and tripped it would blow your head off.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv]
#575192 - 03/10/02 05:27 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think I will try that. I vow to lay off of the ganj for 2 weeks starting tomorrow. I will not post a trip report so as to not annoy you, but I bet it is going to be one hell of a ride. Thanks for the idea.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 1
#575249 - 03/10/02 07:19 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it should be added in because it does effect the trip, but when stoners go off on rants how we smoked 2 joints and a couple cones, blah who cares, I usually mention if I smoke cannabis and add the effects if they are noticable.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: CuckoosNest]
#575658 - 03/11/02 08:19 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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> I will not post a trip report so as to not annoy you
That sucks... I was enjoying last saturday morning reading your "trip in progress" reports every hour or so about the san pedro. Although I am not 'allowed' to physically trip in the office, sitting here reading your posts was a lot like a virtual trip.
In general, I think trip reports are a good thing. They give me a window to look into other peoples exeperiences and compare them with my own. They also force the trip writer to become introspective with resepect to the trip. Even the "snot-nose-kid-skaters" (or whatever the other post called them) that are just looking for the bigger better high have to sit down and think for a while to put their experience into words. Perhaps this isn't the proper forum for reports to be posted, but there is nothing wrong with people sharing their experiences with the rest of us. Some of us even enjoy reading them!
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Seuss]
#575776 - 03/11/02 11:02 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks suess. I enjoyed posting here trying to accurately describe what the mescaline experience was for me, and I am glad to hear that someone else enjoyed reading it.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv]
#580633 - 03/16/02 02:18 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I thought this was supposed to be an open forum. A place where we can share in all our experiences. If you don't like what someone is saying, don't read it...or better yet--talk to them about it. I prefer to smoke to enhance my trip...in fact it's the only time i really like to smoke at all. As long as people have respect for and knowledge of what they're putting into their bodies it's all good...
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 1
#14257600 - 04/08/11 09:27 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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You don't like "mixed" trip reports? Don't read them and stop your whining. You have your opinion about what the content of these reports should be and if anyone disagrees they are stupid? You sound like a narrow minded control freak.And that is just my opinion.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: iamsofaking]
#14257620 - 04/08/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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this guy hasnt even been on the forum in over 9 years.
i dunno why you felt the need to resurrect this thread.
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..but since it's back, I've learned that I do not enjoy smoking weed while tripping. I love how it enhances the trip, but it distracts my thought processes and keeps me from remembering the great feelings, thoughts, and ideas!
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Cynosure]
#14257673 - 04/08/11 09:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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 i r naught stewpid....
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Quote:
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i r naught stewpid....
I was only teasing!
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Cynosure]
#14258099 - 04/08/11 11:30 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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When I smoke pot while tripping the visuals instantly go away. The connectivity goes away. I get hungry I get lazy I get slow. How can my brain keep showing me intensely complex visuals when THC clearly slows things down. I try to not smoke for at least a day before tripping because to me it really clouds the experience. It sucks how most trip reports I've seen always involve smoking bowls on the come up or during the peak, I wish more people were into letting the trip hit them hard without the weed cushion, but whatever. Especially since lately I've been experimenting with research chemicals I'd rather know what they do rather than what they do when they're mixed with what seems to be everyone's favourite drug of all time. I haven't noticed any pure weed trip reports though.... I'm surprised at how few people feel this way but the friends I trip with wouldn't even bother eating a hit of acid if they were already stoned. Such a waste. And then there's always trip reports where people smoke themselves stupid and then complain there are no visuals. I have a feeling that really complicated rapidly transforming visuals require a decent bit of brain power. Could just be me.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: jellyfish]
#14258191 - 04/08/11 11:55 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Op, you are not impressing anyone with your haughty blanket statements....
Some people HAVE to smoke pot to feel normal.... and they can/have experienced panic attacks/severe anxiety when they DON'T smoke pot, regardless of if its during a trip.
Just don't read trip reports if the use of certain entheogens is apparently so abhorrent and upsetting that it would elicit this response from you.
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OP hasnt been online in over 9 years.
stop addressing him directly
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Quote:
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this guy hasnt even been on the forum in over 9 years.
i dunno why you felt the need to resurrect this thread.
My guess is getting into this thread from the "similar threads" list combined with not checking dates. It's an attractive nuisance on these boards.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv]
#14262938 - 04/09/11 12:31 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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for me, smoking weed is synonymous with every other drug that i use. Alchohol, mushrooms, e, whites, and random chemicals. If i were to write a trip report, i would certainly include my weed smoking... seems only natural.
Sitting around blazing, listening to music, and watching cartoons is a great way to spend a trip
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: jellyfish]
#14341843 - 04/24/11 01:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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jellyfish said:
When I smoke pot while tripping the visuals instantly go away. The connectivity goes away. I get hungry I get lazy I get slow. How can my brain keep showing me intensely complex visuals when THC clearly slows things down. I try to not smoke for at least a day before tripping because to me it really clouds the experience. It sucks how most trip reports I've seen always involve smoking bowls on the come up or during the peak, I wish more people were into letting the trip hit them hard without the weed cushion, but whatever. Especially since lately I've been experimenting with research chemicals I'd rather know what they do rather than what they do when they're mixed with what seems to be everyone's favourite drug of all time. I haven't noticed any pure weed trip reports though.... I'm surprised at how few people feel this way but the friends I trip with wouldn't even bother eating a hit of acid if they were already stoned. Such a waste. And then there's always trip reports where people smoke themselves stupid and then complain there are no visuals. I have a feeling that really complicated rapidly transforming visuals require a decent bit of brain power. Could just be me.
idk about that man.... If a brain can create an entirely believable world with semi-intelligent characters and storylines every single night as you sleep, I'm sure it could perceive this world with some visual variations after a couple hits of thc.... Could be wrong tho but I really don't think it's as simple as "brain speeds up during hallucinations," I'd say some parts get more stimulated, some less
I really do feel bad though that you don't appreciate marijuana on hallucinogens, as it GREATLY enhances the experience. I don't hardly smoke MJ sober anymore
Also slightly agree with OP (and I know he won't answer) on trip reports involving marijuana, specifically negative ones, and not giving credit where credit is due. So many reports will have the experience going great when they decide "to smoke 8 huge bong rips with their friends after not smoking for weeks" and of course it goes downhill rapidly from then on. Only to forgot about the mj even and start complaining about shrooms and how they're too unpredictable
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Don't really see how a drug that causes paranoia greatly enhances a psychedelic experience unless you're fully addicted to it. Also the dreaming analogy is pretty bad because they actually used to prescribe pot for nightmares before prohibition. Because you barely dream/ can't remember your dreams. Everyone who quits pot after a while has experienced the intense dreaming that follows. Pot has its place in lifestyle but for me it ends the creative wonder filled aspect of my trips just like it turns my dreams into blurs I barely remember that make no sense anyway. Maybe my weed is too strong or I've done it too many times. Best mushroom trip I ever had was with dexedrine.
edit: Even shulgin says at the beginning of his book that he doesn't smoke weed because it makes him feel stupid
Edited by jellyfish (04/24/11 09:14 AM)
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#14342935 - 04/24/11 10:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol nine year old thread. sometimes i'd like to talk to the people who havent used their accounts in 5+ years, just to see why they stopped coming here. i think it would be cool to get a few reasons from them (not gonna actually try though haha)
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: dizzyease]
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Dead, locked up, off in the mountains ragin' harder than we could ever even fathom. Who knows man?  I agree though.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Joolz]
#14343923 - 04/24/11 03:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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For me, pot enhances and adds to a trip. I love psychedelics but come on man youve gotta respect good ol mary jane.
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I feel like Indiana Jones
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Akatarawa]
#25135756 - 04/13/18 01:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Resurrection!
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Love the avatar.... is that a pic you took mushroomoflife?
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Missed this message sorry for the late reply - I didn't take this one, I found it online.
It's a good one though hey
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Cannabis and shrooms go together like peanut butter and jelly!
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: Ojepam]
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Trip reports are all just masturbatory crap. They served a purpose when there was little anecdotal reports on different chemicals, but now it's a rite of passage for 17 year olds who just got into psychs to post them, and they're all boring self-indulgent drivel.
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Trip reports are all just masturbatory crap. They served a purpose when there was little anecdotal reports on different chemicals, but now it's a rite of passage for 17 year olds who just got into psychs to post them, and they're all boring self-indulgent drivel.
Has anybody ever called you a cunt? I'm just curious.
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: PrimeNumber]
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Quote:
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Quote:
Azure Essence said:
Trip reports are all just masturbatory crap. They served a purpose when there was little anecdotal reports on different chemicals, but now it's a rite of passage for 17 year olds who just got into psychs to post them, and they're all boring self-indulgent drivel.
Has anybody ever called you a cunt? I'm just curious.
 
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Re: Stop the stupid trip reports [Re: wombatvvv] 3
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