moonrockmushy said:

Cowb0yNeal00 said:

whats happening in that last picture? is that lady washing her hands in the horses poop?

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Horse?

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Ellis Dee said:

I get a chuckle when I see liberals protesting things there's no hazard in protesting. Its like going to the shoe store to protest sweatshop labor in China. I've seen 3rd wave feminists protesting on campuses, etc. As if they were moral crusaders. But the ding dongs just want to get their jollies protesting.

If they want a moral crusade these farm protestors should go to the heart of Texas and protest at the gates of the ranches. Or the feminists should go to Saudi Arabia to protest treatment of women. They'll pay for it, sure, but the attention it will bring to their causes will at least be seen as couragous. It would make me stand up and say they've got guts instead of making me laugh at them for being spineless jelly fish.

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Ellis Dee said:

I get a chuckle when I see liberals protesting things there's no hazard in protesting. Its like going to the shoe store to protest sweatshop labor in China. I've seen 3rd wave feminists protesting on campuses, etc. As if they were moral crusaders. But the ding dongs just want to get their jollies protesting.

If they want a moral crusade these farm protestors should go to the heart of Texas and protest at the gates of the ranches. Or the feminists should go to Saudi Arabia to protest treatment of women. They'll pay for it, sure, but the attention it will bring to their causes will at least be seen as couragous. It would make me stand up and say they've got guts instead of making me laugh at them for being spineless jelly fish.

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apparently you've never heard the phrase "peaceful" or "non-violent" protest.  Seriously you can't be that unaware of the role of public demonstrations in terms of sociopolitical activism.

moonrockmushy said:

apparently you've never heard the phrase "peaceful" or "non-violent" protest.  Seriously you can't be that unaware of the role of public demonstrations in terms of sociopolitical activism.

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Mescalean said:

loled at the best vegan bodybuilder bit

edit: let me be specific so i dont seem like so much of a giant dick I luagh for a couple of reasons. I've had this arguement with multiple friends who body build. We tested the who will make better gains on what diet. Vegan was a hard ass plateau for 1 kid and a 10 lb gain in bench press in a year.

the second reason is from all the research i have done the "impressive"(i will give them that by average skinny fat standards they are chiseled as all fuck)vegan athletes either never make it past fitness comp level which if thats your goal great, but it seems to be disproving that meat will build muscle faster which it will. or they were originally on a carnivorous diet and later switched to vegan after they have some "moral awakening" then start touting the program like all athletic gains were made on the diet alone. it's marketing and it's fucking genius

same as p90x. Buddy claimed that because of all the hype he'd get fucking jacked. More definition but zero size increase like he wanted. its an overhyped program.

easy trick they like to use is to take the before photo of a fit athlete and use it as the after photo and pay them to fatten up for the before photo and just lose it. Anyone who has had to make weight before should know this is an easy ass pay check.

Mixed diet of veggies and lean meats is healthiest. factory farming is bad yes tho I will agree I prefer to buy my shit free range/wild caught when i can.

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moonrockmushy said:

Are we sure that no animals want to die?  Some might.

I'm all for the cause, but the protest makes me want to go to that store and buy a steak just to rub their smug little human faces in it.

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moonrockmushy said:

Hey, I guess youre the expert on moral crusading, but grass roots activism isn't about getting hurt or being a tough guy, it is our legal right as Americans to peacably assemble and I think the kids who actually get out and try to raise awareness surrounding whatever are doing better than most.

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Alright point taken. I guess I'm just in cranky old man mode. Kids these days!!!

moonrockmushy said:

Well I would advise Mr. Dee to stop being a hypocrite and go protest these protests that he has a problem with rather than complaining about it on the internet like a poosay.

I can't tell if it is a joke or not.  He actually thinks this is going to be practical or effective whatsoever?

Think globally, act locally homies.  At least those folks are out there contributing to something they believe in.  If you think you could do a better job, I encourage you to go become a protester.  If anyone thinks that that advice is practical or realistic in any way you're sorely mistaken.  There's something called being realistic that needs to come into play.

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topdog82 said:

Mescalean said:

loled at the best vegan bodybuilder bit

edit: let me be specific so i dont seem like so much of a giant dick I luagh for a couple of reasons. I've had this arguement with multiple friends who body build. We tested the who will make better gains on what diet. Vegan was a hard ass plateau for 1 kid and a 10 lb gain in bench press in a year.

the second reason is from all the research i have done the "impressive"(i will give them that by average skinny fat standards they are chiseled as all fuck)vegan athletes either never make it past fitness comp level which if thats your goal great, but it seems to be disproving that meat will build muscle faster which it will. or they were originally on a carnivorous diet and later switched to vegan after they have some "moral awakening" then start touting the program like all athletic gains were made on the diet alone. it's marketing and it's fucking genius

same as p90x. Buddy claimed that because of all the hype he'd get fucking jacked. More definition but zero size increase like he wanted. its an overhyped program.

easy trick they like to use is to take the before photo of a fit athlete and use it as the after photo and pay them to fatten up for the before photo and just lose it. Anyone who has had to make weight before should know this is an easy ass pay check.

Mixed diet of veggies and lean meats is healthiest. factory farming is bad yes tho I will agree I prefer to buy my shit free range/wild caught when i can.

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I sort of disagree and agree with this

I think most people functioning on no animal protien or saturated fat is not a real possiblity. But I do find that for me personally, eating less protein kicked up my energy levels and gains. A medium/low protien, medium fat, and high carb diet keeps me at best recovery and energy. Different people function on different diets

You misread my post. I wasnt supporting the idea that a vegan could become the greatest bodybuilder ever. It is just that there is all this talk that vegans can build muscle. And the response is...stop talking shit and prove it. And its typically some twiggy ass kid who spouts that one can build muscle on a vegan diet while displaying who ability to do so themselves

Tldr; leading by example is the best as most arguements, ESP on the internet get nowhere. The only true way to show people what is right, or bring people to your cause is to lead by example

And I def did make some good gains as a vegan but I make better ones with some fish, eggs, and kefir

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