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So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus.
    #22249441 - 09/17/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://news.discovery.com/history/us-history/vikings-native-american-woman.htm

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- DNA analysis reveals that four families in Iceland possess genes typically found in Native Americans or East Asians.

- Genealogical evidence revealed that these families shared a distant ancestor from the same region.

- The Vikings may have brought back a Native American woman with them after they arrived in the New World.

The first Native American to arrive in Europe may have been a woman brought to Iceland by the Vikings more than 1,000 years ago, a study by Spanish and Icelandic researchers suggests.




I wonder, and I know this a fucking HOOGE stretch but, wondering if the Solutrean hypothesis might be found, one day, to carry some water?


What do you guys and gals think of this? Anything? Four families isn't much, unless those four are, like, 100 people thick...


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249457 - 09/17/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I had to check the date of the article because I was certain that this was brought up years ago.

I don't really doubt it. The vikings were sailors, they built their conquest on boats. They were driven by glory and riches so it's not really surprising a few "crazy ones" would get the idea to sail to completely unknown lands in search of it.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249459 - 09/17/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whoops, I didnt even check if it'd been posted before. :confused::blush::frown:

I thought it was kinda cool. Actually read about it in David Mitchell's 'Bone Clocks' a reaaaally good book.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich] * 1
    #22249470 - 09/17/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if it's been posted here before (didn't look) I just remember reading about it years ago. I was confused and thought some article was claiming this to be a new theory.

I honestly find the prospect of them making it here to be far more profound than Columbus doing it. They didn't have huge ships, nor some of the more "modern" instruments available to them. Columbus did it with bit of testicular fortitude and sea faring vessels far more suited to the task. They did it in what we'd basically classify as "rafts" or "dinghy" and powered it by balls alone.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249475 - 09/17/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What amazes me is that China didnt get here. Their boats were insainly better then the European ones.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22249496 - 09/17/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante]
    #22249507 - 09/17/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There are alot of 'prehistorical' ideas about the sea being crossed way before what we know as history started. It would not be a surprise. In fact, it would be more so if they hadn't


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #22249513 - 09/17/15 04:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty sure there are pre-Colombian Viking archeological sites in Eastern Canada.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22249514 - 09/17/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Africa had Great Civilizations millennia before Europe (most famously the Egyptians) and the current of the oceans on the west coast goes straight to the Americas.

Makes perfect sense.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22249523 - 09/17/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They had one great (non-black) civilization, a few lame kingdoms. It is a wasted continent.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #22249527 - 09/17/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Your education was wasted.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante]
    #22249534 - 09/17/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In pre-columbia  times, the largest civilizations were in Central and South America. The day Columbus "discovered" the Americas, the largest city in the world was in Mesico.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante]
    #22249536 - 09/17/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tney were overthrown by what we would consider 'black people', and if you look at civilization, the whole continent is terrible. Blame Colonialism or  say how big the place is, whatever. It still looks terrible


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante]
    #22249544 - 09/17/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I thought it as was pretty well established that that the Vikings got here way before Columbus, and made it at least as far as Minnesota where the rune stones were found. (hence the NFL team the Minnesota Vikings, not that it proves anything in itself.) The Viking civilization did not last, whether they all died or some returned home, which is why the Vikings and probably others aren't given the recognition of Columbus. But I thought the finding of Viking Rune stones in Minnesota was considered a historical fact.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22249549 - 09/17/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Africans came to America again and again since 1290 BC





LOL yeah and I shit rainbows

I heard they could also fly before the white man took over and took that power from them


This is a modern african aircraft, do you really think they were sailing around the world 800 years ago?



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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22249554 - 09/17/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I thought it as was pretty well established that that the Vikings got here way before Columbus



Yes, I thought so too. Archaeological evidence has been found in Newfoundland. That they may have brought people back from the Americas to Iceland is new to me however, but it sounds plausible.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: koraks]
    #22249559 - 09/17/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Viking civilization didnt last? Last I heard Iceland and Scandinavia were doing really well. What did you mean by that? I'm just curious, not miffed, btw.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249560 - 09/17/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think he meant they didn't last in America, which is my understanding as well.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: koraks]
    #22249562 - 09/17/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, yeah, that totally makes sense now. :facepalm:


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249568 - 09/17/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Viking civilization didnt last? Last I heard Iceland and Scandinavia were doing really well. What did you mean by that? I'm just curious, not miffed, btw.



Im pretty sure they arent the same completely, as vikings didnt really write and stuff


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