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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22249576 - 09/17/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Untrue. As I'm sure you know.

They're actually credited with the first modern novel.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22249587 - 09/17/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Africans came to America again and again since 1290 BC





LOL yeah and I shit rainbows

I heard they could also fly before the white man took over and took that power from them


This is a modern african aircraft, do you really think they were sailing around the world 800 years ago?







I'm sick and tired of racially insulting posts like that one. It is abundantly clear you are anti black now shut the fuck up please.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22249599 - 09/17/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249673 - 09/17/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i cant find it now, but some really old maps found in china suggests that they may have actually circumnavigated the globe before europeans found the new world


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: trscstghst]
    #22249687 - 09/17/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i cant find it now, but some really old maps found in china suggests that they may have actually circumnavigated the globe before europeans found the new world





This is a modern Chinese ship:




Do you think they could ever sail around the world


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante]
    #22249700 - 09/17/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like a fucking hovercraft compared to anything Africa has. heh. :lol:


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249819 - 09/17/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My distant ancestors(Nestruds) came to America before Columbus. People may not believe me but my ancestry can be traced back to one of the 4 families who came here. My direct ancestors stayed in Norway until the 1800's before they moved here too and my great grandmother's maiden name was Nestrud.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22249843 - 09/17/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I thought it as was pretty well established that that the Vikings got here way before Columbus, and made it at least as far as Minnesota where the rune stones were found. (hence the NFL team the Minnesota Vikings, not that it proves anything in itself.) The Viking civilization did not last, whether they all died or some returned home, which is why the Vikings and probably others aren't given the recognition of Columbus. But I thought the finding of Viking Rune stones in Minnesota was considered a historical fact.



Those runes are all proven bullshit hoaxes or done by extremely early Scandinavian immigrants . The only really pluasele one was the one on nomans land island in massacussets and the guy who discovered it straight up said he had some dewd carve it on his deathed or something. It like a proven fact leif erikson and several other viking parties reached america and colonized it. I makes sense they would take women and other slaves back. Wiether they made it past newfoundland is a subect for debate and conspiracy theorist.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22249848 - 09/17/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just love imagining that 1st meeting between the Vikings and Native Americans....and wondering what circumstances led to a slave being taken, because as we alll know, only White people keep slaves and colonize other people's countries. So, I wonder if the Natives were like, 'WTF was that??, sheesh! Welp, thank God they're gone for good!"


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22249852 - 09/17/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I thought this was pretty much common knowledge. There's also a lot of info that points towards there being trade between Asia and South American.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22249862 - 09/17/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can't imagine the hardships that travelers and explorers underwent when they investigated new roads.  It's hard for me to walk in some parts of the woods where there is no path.  No roads, no bridges, no maps, incredibly thick vegetation, rivers, mountains. Man those where some hard mother fucker if you stop and actually think about what they did.  And I have my even gone into sailing which is possibly worse.  Just people dieing left and right.  Dieing from the common cold.  Had to be rough.

I think alot of people don't think about how damn hard it is to have done that.  After getting through the Appalachian then walking the great planes, they come across the damn rocky mountains.  I know this is off topic and when Lewis and Clark did it they had a small percentage of the country already civilized, but still that's nuts what's they had to do.

This thread just kinda got me thinking. Carry on with the chlorophyll.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22249873 - 09/17/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The Japanese may have made it to south america, valdevian pottery is near identicle to Japanese jamon pottery, plus I think they found old world viruses in pre-columbian  valdevian mummies, and the people share physical traits with the Japanese....

I think its possible....

People have been stuck at sea with nothing for up to 10 months and survived, surviving off of little more that rainwater and caught sea animals...I'm sure a culture who was actually trying to get across the ocean could have...

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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22249875 - 09/17/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well they were one of histories greatest naval infantries so yeh they were prob tough


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22249883 - 09/17/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think its more possible for people to have jumped from polenisia cross to say easter island and then on to south america. I also think ancient egyptians n people might have made it across Japanese pottery could have easly jus floated over like much of thier junk does today.


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: SoupSandwich] * 1
    #22249889 - 09/17/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not gonna say ancient aliens were involved but :ancientaliens:


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22249893 - 09/17/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The vikings should have had no problems...

I wonder how many times a single lost ship has washed up on the shores of the opposite world? With the ship being lost its home country would assume they were dead, so history would never be able to.record these possible contacts with the opposite world 

Maybe that's what the Japanese  "utsuro bune " story was detailing...who knows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune

Were the pre-columbian viking settlements in Canada not confirmed? I was under the impression that it was known vikings had settlements on candas east coast, but I could be wrong...

(They found cocaine and niccotine in Egyptian mummies as well, though that scientist has taken a lot of shit for her findings...)


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22249904 - 09/17/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

With the valdevian (south American) and jamon pottery there were many many examples, not just some pieces floating across the sea, the people it seems were taught to make their pottery this way.



Plus there were old world viruses in pre-columbian valdevian mummies...and the valdevian people look Japanese...I wonder if DNA testing was ever performed...


I'm not saying it did happen, but there's some evidence making that suggestion...


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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #22249911 - 09/17/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Africans came to America again and again since 1290 BC





hahaha... where exactly are these artifacts, of course I'm not surprised this
came from a well known conspiracy site given that the expansion of the story
claims there artifacts were sent to the smithsonian and the smithsonian destroyed
the artifacts, yet with all of these claims, not a single photograph or document
verifies the claim... it's sad that people want so bad to rewrite history so they
can be included that they'll take any sort of coincidental appearance and make an
entire story of it. it's even worse that people are so willing to gobble it up
simply because they want to believe, maybe you can show us where it was really
the africans that landed on plymouth rock and had a huge feast with the indians

it's well known that the vikings came here before columbus, nearly 500 years
before he columbus made his journey, it's also pretty well known that columbus
didnt actually make it to north america but did manage to land on some of the
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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22249920 - 09/17/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

To OP:

Uhm...no shit...The Vikings landed in Maine region and couldn't even finish building their 'establishment', which was their goal.

The Natives attacked them again and again until they didnt have enough people to support an establishment, so they ditched for home, and yea probably took a Native with them.
The leader of this 'Establishment' adventure was; Leif Erikson, son of Erik the Red.
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Re: So...Vikings may have actually arrived in the New World before Columbus. [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22249923 - 09/17/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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(They found cocaine and niccotine in Egyptian mummies as well, though that scientist has taken a lot of shit for her findings...)





no they didnt. some german researchers made the claim, it was shot down pretty
quickly and once more, it's just another false claim that people love to spread


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