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website123
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#21757456 - 06/03/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomDoom said: http://skunkpharmresearch.com/rotary-evaporator-from-siskiyou-sam/
Also gonna need one of these and proper spectrum UV lamp for the workup.
sorry, can you explain it a little more? I don't see why it wouldn't work putting the solutions in UV presence just to check if there is any active still on that solution...
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sbc1
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123] 1
#21757632 - 06/03/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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website123 said:
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
love ya bro! finally someone said it!
No worries mate just hate all the hating your getting, you obviously know what your talking about, even if you didn't you don't deserve this much hate about something
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rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
#21757803 - 06/03/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i never can figure out why people get upset about innovative ideas.
they act like everything that will ever be discovered was discovered in 1914.
fact is there are things that WERE discovered in 1914 that still havent been given much attention, because at the time they werent practical.
and some that people just didnt notice.
somethings come back in style... like the electric car.
people who think and dream are PRICELESS. even if they have some blunders... support the notion of TRYING its not costing you anything.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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sbc1
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21757870 - 06/03/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well said rxb
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Gottaloveacid
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21757878 - 06/03/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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rxb said: i never can figure out why people get upset about innovative ideas.
they act like everything that will ever be discovered was discovered in 1914.
fact is there are things that WERE discovered in 1914 that still havent been given much attention, because at the time they werent practical.
and some that people just didnt notice.
somethings come back in style... like the electric car.
people who think and dream are PRICELESS. even if they have some blunders... support the notion of TRYING its not costing you anything.
I know right! The same thing can be said in a political sense as well. People need to understand that the only way we can progress as a species is to innovate on the ideas we have already come up with.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21757921 - 06/03/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly!
Look at mushroom cultivation. It used to be thought that an airpump inside a fruiting chamber was great. Now we know its a bunch of 1/4" holes on every side that uses natural drafts, aand this is one of the best setups out there.
Knowledge thru progression and innovation
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whitelights
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21758038 - 06/03/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd
i guess this applies to everything.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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ShroomDoom
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21758071 - 06/03/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This really isn't that novel of a route. That much seeds will be difficult to extract but it's doable. It's better to just stick to the commonly published peptide coupling reaction like in Casey Hardison 's writeup. You are kidding yourself if you think skipping the workup and re-x is a good idea.
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Nature Boy
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
#21758641 - 06/03/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
As anyone who has been here for any length of time knows, I've provided numerous easy to follow teks over the years, all of which have worked for hundreds, if not thousands of folks on this board. My STB tek for DMT is over 300 pages long and has been in use for over 6 years. FWIW, there's an excellent set reasons why I would NEVER under any circumstances attempt to synthesize LSD...the most significant of which is economic.
One of the MANY things the OP has not addressed is WHERE he plans on undertaking this attempt. In his home?? I doubt it. As with Owsley and Sands and every other legit LSD chemist of any worth, they set their clandestine lab up out of sight and in a rural area where the smells and business at hand would not come to anyone's attention. Just think about what THAT would cost.
Making "personal" sized batches of LSD would not make any sense whatsoever. The "economy of scale" just isn't there, and the risks are the same. Might as well just plunk down the same amount of money you would spend on the glassware alone and you would have a life-time's supply of legit LSD with no fuss whatsoever.
So...that leaves "production quantities." And that means BIG money, lots of help, and the need for a legitimate distribution network that doesn't lead back to the lab. Nearly impossible to keep secret. And that means jail. Forever at my age. Plus, I'm not one who thinks LSD is the world's panacea. It's just another boring molecule to me. And if I did one hit of LSD per year, that would be plenty for me. So there's ZERO motivation.
Now...if you good folks want to crowd source somewhere between $750,000 and $1,000,000 I would consider leaving my family for about 8 or 9 months, taking your money to China, setting up a lab there, and getting the job done. It might take even longer and cost more.
Here's the method I would use. As I've said, LEGIT teks HAVE been published here. Sadly, The OP's tek is NOT one of them. Anyone who believes it is is simply naive. I note that the OP never posted one single pix of the equipment he claims to possess. Also, why post this in the PE when there are sophisticated and knowledgeable folks in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum. Oh, right. I know why...because the ridicule would be even MORE fierce.
Anyone who wants to read a legit synthesis, here ya go: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737
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ApexNightmare
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21758699 - 06/03/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy, laying down the law. Wooooo!
It is rather insane how hard it is to make LSD though :/
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rabidz7
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: ApexNightmare] 1
#21758741 - 06/03/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The image directly before LSD could be active on its own.
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website123
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rabidz7]
#21759452 - 06/03/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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tnx guys for the help and nice words, for now thats all I need
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rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21759466 - 06/03/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you need to test and verify and learn and grow.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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StygianKnight
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rabidz7]
#21759472 - 06/03/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The problem with teks like this is they make the process seem easy. I would love for someone to post an LSD tek only *after* they successful tried it.
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rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: StygianKnight]
#21759484 - 06/03/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dont mind that he posted it.
i think we need more people with wide eyes. and we need to pat them on the back.
but thats step 1.
step 2 is you do it, you document it, and you work out the bugs.
THIS is the real public service.
step 3 is you figure out how to source it for the average joe.
step 4 is you teach the whole world how to do it, in a way they CAN do it.
step 5 be a hero forever.
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Godfather1376
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21762380 - 06/04/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As long as no personal testing is done before scientific testing, I don't see any problem with OP attempting this, even if he does ignore/work-around some pretty important steps. If he decided to try this tek, he could easily pay for a testing lab to test final product for him. Even if it doesn't show microgram amounts, it will show all chemicals in the result. So if it's incredibly impure or unsafe, the lab can just tell him through the results.
If it's complete shite, start from scratch again. If by some miracle this tek works as well as he wishes, then kudos.
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Deviate
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21762917 - 06/04/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
As anyone who has been here for any length of time knows, I've provided numerous easy to follow teks over the years, all of which have worked for hundreds, if not thousands of folks on this board. My STB tek for DMT is over 300 pages long and has been in use for over 6 years. FWIW, there's an excellent set reasons why I would NEVER under any circumstances attempt to synthesize LSD...the most significant of which is economic.
One of the MANY things the OP has not addressed is WHERE he plans on undertaking this attempt. In his home?? I doubt it. As with Owsley and Sands and every other legit LSD chemist of any worth, they set their clandestine lab up out of sight and in a rural area where the smells and business at hand would not come to anyone's attention. Just think about what THAT would cost.
Making "personal" sized batches of LSD would not make any sense whatsoever. The "economy of scale" just isn't there, and the risks are the same. Might as well just plunk down the same amount of money you would spend on the glassware alone and you would have a life-time's supply of legit LSD with no fuss whatsoever.
So...that leaves "production quantities." And that means BIG money, lots of help, and the need for a legitimate distribution network that doesn't lead back to the lab. Nearly impossible to keep secret. And that means jail. Forever at my age. Plus, I'm not one who thinks LSD is the world's panacea. It's just another boring molecule to me. And if I did one hit of LSD per year, that would be plenty for me. So there's ZERO motivation.
Now...if you good folks want to crowd source somewhere between $750,000 and $1,000,000 I would consider leaving my family for about 8 or 9 months, taking your money to China, setting up a lab there, and getting the job done. It might take even longer and cost more.
Here's the method I would use. As I've said, LEGIT teks HAVE been published here. Sadly, The OP's tek is NOT one of them. Anyone who believes it is is simply naive. I note that the OP never posted one single pix of the equipment he claims to possess. Also, why post this in the PE when there are sophisticated and knowledgeable folks in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum. Oh, right. I know why...because the ridicule would be even MORE fierce.
Anyone who wants to read a legit synthesis, here ya go: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737
N.B.
I agree. I don't see what all the fuss is about LSD, I find both shrooms and cactus to be far superior. But if for whatever reason someone likes/wants LSD, then why not simply go to a festival and buy it? There are festivals all over the country every year, if you have the means to get all that is needed to synth LSD you have the means to get to a festival.
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