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synth DMT without MHRB??!
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for anyone out there more well-versed in chemistry than me: can it be done? 

I feel like it should be possible...its not like MHRB is somehow pure DMT (obviously!) so why can't other plants be used?  I ask this cos it is fucking impossible nowdays to find MHRB in the US and realllll sketchy to try get it from international vendors from the research I've done, apparently the feds are onto it.

lets come up with a new DMT tek, I know we can make this happen!


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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Look up Acacia Confusa.

You need to defat, it won't work STB. Yields are great. Never got pure DMT, just spice. I use limonene, that's why.


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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"defat"? 

I'm really only familiar with STB and that is only in writing...I'm new to this DMT synth thing and I'm no alchemist.  I know, I jumped on the boat a little late...kept telling myself for years that I wasn't ready for DMT but now that I am I've come to realize even the ingredients are being banned!  fucking governments...I'll live to see the one constricting my land collapse, I vow it.

anyways, anyone got any good links for non-MHRB DMT synthesis?


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Edited by Rahas (07/14/13 10:26 PM)

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: TwinEclipse]
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TwinEclipse said:
Never got pure DMT, just spice. I use limonene, that's why.


"spice" is what? MeO 5 DMT or something?  I know, I'm clueless.


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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spice has more plant alkaloids in it...different chemicals that change the dmt experience. It has a darker color than pure dmt. It has body load feel, but still amazing!

I can't offer links, but just type the plant species on ebay. Look for the vendor that sell inner root bark. If you don't have a blender, get it powdered.

If you use all 114 grams, and take time in decanting, you can get higher yields. I think you can pull even more with petrolium nonpolar solvents like naphtha, hexane, etc...

edit

If you are gonna do it, just be careful man, reread the procedure plenty of times, i use organic stuff like limonene/Pickling lime Ca(OH)2, but the tek uses naphtha/NaOH. ...if you extracted from mimosa, you just need extra steps in the beginning. Piece of cake though, once you get used to the routine.

Best of luck bro :thumbup:


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Edited by TwinEclipse (07/14/13 10:39 PM)

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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antiprofit said:
any good links for non-MHRB DMT synthesis?


links are easy to find.

a competent trained chemist, and a decent lab,
can do it relatively easily,
but, many chems in the process are watch listed.

there is no shake and bake,
get all the ingredients from the box store version.....

chem forums abound.
and no, i wont link to any.


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Edited by anne halonium (07/14/13 10:37 PM)

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: anne halonium] * 1
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Sound like you need to do some more research

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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well, what I have learned is that it's not considered what they call "ethical" here to ask for links.  live and learn


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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antiprofit said:
well, what I have learned is that it's not considered what they call "ethical" here to ask for links.  live and learn


I would say its more of a "you would already know if you actually looked"
mixed with not wanting people lacking the proper knowledge to not mortally injure themselves or worse.

quite simply if you have the internet and enough knowledge to move forward you wouldn't even bother to ask such a question on a random forum that in no way specializes in synthesis tek's.


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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Only cold weather plant that comes to mind is Desmanthus Illinoensis and Desmathus Leptolobus. Phalaris has too much 5-meo to make it worth it. If you have the patience, start your own desmanthus patch, wait 3 years and the harvest should give you just short of what mimosa would yield. It is not very consistent however. I believe marsofold did an extraction and hardly got 55 mg out of it.

If you live in the right place, it grows wild.

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: ressa69]
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And don't even attempt an organic synthesis.

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: TwinEclipse]
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TwinEclipse said:
Look up Acacia Confusa.

You need to defat, it won't work STB. Yields are great. Never got pure DMT, just spice. I use limonene, that's why.


I didn't de-fat my confusa bark, and I got a nice thick goo that tasted and smelled fantastic. Me and a few friends smoked it on some mushies, and it was a blast. Way more mellow than crystal DMT.


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: PsYcHoDoUgHbOy]
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PsYcHoDoUgHbOy said:
TwinEclipse said:
Look up Acacia Confusa.

You need to defat, it won't work STB. Yields are great. Never got pure DMT, just spice. I use limonene, that's why.


I didn't de-fat my confusa bark, and I got a nice thick goo that tasted and smelled fantastic. Me and a few friends smoked it on some mushies, and it was a blast. Way more mellow than crystal DMT.



Oh cool! I didn't try it because my search resources stated it wont work that way. Thanks for sharing. I'll try it next time...defatting is TIME CONSUMING! :mad2:


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: TwinEclipse]
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Glad I stocked up on MHRB awhile back and was to lazy to ever extract it.  Gunna save that for a rainy day in the future.  How long would you imagine the shelf life on the bark to be?


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: mattritt]
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It's a fairly stable molecule. I would imagine a very long time. Many years is sealed. Worst case it may oxidize, but some actually prefer DMT N-Oxide. It affords a more gentle liftoff.

If you've ever seen your stuff go from white, to a slightly yellow-off white waxy appearance, this is from oxidation. It takes about six months in a sealed jar with consistent use for this to happen.

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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Rahas]
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Why hasn't anyone said my name, Psychotria viridis it is a fast growing shrub that has 0.10–0.66% DMT in the leaves when dried. You can start harvesting these bastards in about 1-2 years depending on how well your plant went, and you can use A/B teks just defat it and remember to use boiling water for the beggining of the extraction.


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: Psychotria]
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Because we don't want to see psychotria dissappear.  Shhh, if that becomes the next MHRB we're screwed. :wink:


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Because we don't want to see psychotria dissappear.  Shhh, if that becomes the next MHRB we're screwed. :wink:


:dancer:


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Re: synth DMT without MHRB??! [Re: mattritt]
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ooop my bad that post shall only stay here and nowhere else.


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