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what you think about this synth? 1
#21748995 - 06/01/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll put the text later, sorry... please don't hate, just try to help your own way! (good critic, chemistry, sense, etc...) this will be the homemade way with all the hard items made by yourself as easy as possible. (whait for the text part) it has a very good extraction for large amounts too!
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21749034 - 06/01/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is that LSD? Im stupid...
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Ferburu]
#21749050 - 06/01/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is LSD. I'm now very curious about this synthesis. Can't wait for the text part!
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Ferburu]
#21749088 - 06/01/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, the last one, the first is LSA
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21749095 - 06/01/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you a chemist? And has this method been tested? Or is it just theoretical?
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Achillita]
#21749121 - 06/01/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i speak portuguese and have pharmacy class at night (now) so I have to finish translating the text, it probably will come out like 5 hours from now, when i return...
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21749169 - 06/01/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks pretty doable!
Starts with pure LSA, then ends in pure LSD! Easy.
But getting those odd-looking compounds will be tricky to say the least.
Overall, a very simple synth it seems like.
I give it 10 acid drops out of 10
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21749258 - 06/01/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#21749391 - 06/01/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. It's not, by any stretch of the imagination, easy. 'Nuf said.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21749466 - 06/01/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm curious to see the text.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21749812 - 06/01/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes I want to see the text too. LSA to LSD sounds very interesting and I would be so interested if it is doable
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Ferburu]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Godfather1376] 1
#21750498 - 06/01/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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(I couldn't edit the original post) here's the fist part, tomorrow I'll post how to make pure hydrazine and diethylamine 
LSA extraction and conversion to LSD: Materials: dichloromethane Na2CO3 distilled water hydrazine acetylacetone diethylamine ethanol dry ice acetic acid Extraction: Add 10L of distilled water in 8Kg HB seed or seed 4Kg HBWR previously pulverized on dry ice with 1060g of Na2CO3 and then put in the mixer for about nine hours. Add 1L of dichloromethane place in the mixer for 3 hours, cool the solution in a bath with ethanol/dry ice and quickly strain the crystals in vacuum. Repeat the extraction increasing the mixing time for 3h repeating the process 4 more times and check the aqueous solution with UV light. After the final extraction the dichloromethane should be evaporated.
Conversion: In an anhydrous nitrogen atmosphere add 3,3g of hydrazine and 2,25g acetic acid to 10g LSA, and heat it in an oil bath at 110°C for 15 minutes then add 60ml of distilled water and boil for another 15 minutes, then cool in a freezer for 2-3 hours, until all hydrazide crystals have formed. (All at 0°C) To the crystals is added ethanol until it dissolves and then 200 ml of a 5M HCl solution, LSA hydrazide will become a HCl salt. To this solution is added 7,5 mL of acetylacetone, and the temperature is allowed to rise to at room temperature, stir for 1 hour and then add 40g NaOH, the precipitate is lysergic acid pyrazole. The lysergic acid pyrazole is mixed with 300 ml of anhydrous diethylamine and then the solution is evaporated in vacuum, to the 10g LSD is added 40g of Vitamin C for preservation.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21750519 - 06/01/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. It's not, by any stretch of the imagination, easy. 'Nuf said.
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that's why I'm here, to prove it wrong! it IS easy, it CAN be safe,and it WILL be done by anyone! BTW tomorrow i post the glassware
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21750522 - 06/01/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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website123 said: (I couldn't edit the original post) here's the fist part, tomorrow I'll post how to make pure hydrazine and diethylamine 
LSA extraction and conversion to LSD: Materials: dichloromethane Na2CO3 distilled water hydrazine acetylacetone diethylamine ethanol dry ice acetic acid Extraction: Add 10L of distilled water in 80Kg HB seed or seed 40Kg HBWR previously pulverized on dry ice with 1060g of Na2CO3 and then put in the mixer for about nine hours. Add 1L of dichloromethane place in the mixer for 3 hours, cool the solution in a bath with ethanol/dry ice and quickly strain the crystals in vacuum. Repeat the extraction increasing the mixing time for 3h repeating the process 4 more times and check the aqueous solution with UV light. After the final extraction the dichloromethane should be evaporated.
Conversion: In an anhydrous nitrogen atmosphere add 3,3g of hydrazine and 2,25g acetic acid to 10g LSA, and heat it in an oil bath at 110°C for 15 minutes then add 60ml of distilled water and boil for another 15 minutes, then cool in a freezer for 2-3 hours, until all hydrazide crystals have formed. (All at 0°C) To the crystals is added ethanol until it dissolves and then 200 ml of a 5M HCl solution, LSA hydrazide will become a HCl salt. To this solution is added 7,5 mL of acetylacetone, and the temperature is allowed to rise to at room temperature, stir for 1 hour and then add 40g NaOH, the precipitate is lysergic acid pyrazole. The lysergic acid pyrazole is mixed with 300 ml of anhydrous diethylamine and then the solution is evaporated in vacuum, to the 10g LSD is added 40g of Vitamin C for preservation.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21750566 - 06/01/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow, there it is. The recipe!
But, a 10g LSA to 10g LSD perfect conversion sounds far-fetched. Nothings 100% conversion in chemistry.
And sadly, i believe that diethylamine is a heavily-controlled substance as it it the "magic" final ingredient to LSD synth.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21751057 - 06/01/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even if I ended up with 5 grams of LSD.. That's a lot. Apparently it's pretty common. It's uses are Chemical Manufacturing Manufacturing of basic chemicals Manufacturing of pesticide, fertilizer Manufacturing of pharmaceuticals Pharmaceutical aids After a quick search you can buy 100 ml for 144 dollars or 308 dollars for a liter.
I honestly think getting that large amount of seeds would be the one of the hardest things to obtain, albeit the most common.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Achillita] 1
#21751101 - 06/02/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No idea what I'm reading but I find it interesting nonetheless  Subbed.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: jsncrs]
#21751452 - 06/02/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Absolutely nothing new here. That is the standard, "underground" published a zillion times method. And there's nothing easy about it since you ALSO have to synthesize every important reagent. I'm also pretty sure there is a tediously long Shroomery thread that set this exact method out years ago. No one here ever succeeded employing it then, and no one will succeed in employing it now.
Stop dreaming. 
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#21751577 - 06/02/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Absolutely nothing new here. That is the standard, "underground" published a zillion times method. And there's nothing easy about it since you ALSO have to synthesize every important reagent. I'm also pretty sure there is a tediously long Shroomery thread that set this exact method out years ago. No one here ever succeeded employing it then, and no one will succeed in employing it now.
Stop dreaming. 
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1- I've adapted this synthesis, that's why I am here in the first place, to ask about its functionality. 2- The extraction is mine, and I've never seen such a good one for large amounts 3- Let us dream man, why come here to get us down? In fact i got almost everything to make it, it's a small and very possible list...
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123] 1
#21751586 - 06/02/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well im interested in seeing it step by step (with tests that confirm results).
and im interested in seeing where you propose to source the materials. (in most north american and european countries).
because if we used tracked sources or impossible to get chems you may as well say "wave a magic wand".
good luck, i cant wait to see your results.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#21751599 - 06/02/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Wow, there it is. The recipe!
But, a 10g LSA to 10g LSD perfect conversion sounds far-fetched. Nothings 100% conversion in chemistry.
And sadly, i believe that diethylamine is a heavily-controlled substance as it it the "magic" final ingredient to LSD synth.
actually, LSD is heavier than LSA, so it isn't a 1:1 conversion, the synth just shows the ideal procedure, depending how well you do your synth you can vary from 0 to 10g, and if you have good seeds you can extract up to 15g, then you just readapt it!
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751712 - 06/02/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think it would be much more worth your while to just grow rye and infect it with ergot yourself and use that to make some ET and go from there, fuck seeds, good luck.
as for the synth, erything looks easy on paper. its the setting up and getting everything together thats the tough part. if youve got a steady hand and steady eye, the actual doing part is not so difficult, if you understand completely what your doing. which i beleive if you can make white dmt crystals you could make LSD.
as for making the chemicals yourself. if your pushing out hundreds or thousands of grams of lsd. its probably not worthwhile. you would more than likely buy, or open a buissiness that needed the chemical your trying to use, keep the buissiness going all the same and just slip whatever amount of chems out as you need them. that is, if you couldnt find a dealer that you can buy these chems and precursors off of with cash.(i have been approached from total strangers at fests hundreds of miles from my home about precursors or solvents, for any drug i may have wanted to produce, multiple times, so dont tell me these precursors or chems are difficult to find)
if you making tens of grams and you enjoy chemistry, maybe yeah you would want to make your own chems and precursors from scratch.
again, if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you would probably take the easiest shortest and cheapest route to get the end product, which is the synth or close to the synth you have up there(although your synth shows the chemical reaction on paper, there are many many ways to make that same chemical reaction happen, so a different synthesis holds the same reactions with the same step to step, just different way of making it happen). youd also probably end up with 60-70% purity and just get rid of it cheaply as that for people to pass around or more than likely people will buy it and clean it up to 80-90% purity themselves, losing weight for a purer product thats worth more, get it?
if your making tens of grams youd probably take a longer, more expensive and more time consuming route, to get a more stable, pure and better looking product. you would also probably spend more time cleaning it up better once it was done.
now if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you are making the stuff 98% if not more of the people that eat lsd are eating. its production, commercial, street level lsd at 60-upper 70% purity at best.
if you are making around ten grams of lsd, you are making the best possible product you can make ont his planet. its costing you 2-30 cents per hit to make and you probably sell those hits to your closest friends for 50 cents to a dollar and they more than likely eat it and give it away. so pretty much no one gets this stuff unless your bestfriend is making it. you actually more than likely just give the shit away. people dont get to eat this stuff unless they watched it get made about 98% of the time. if you pay money or anything for lsd, i promise you dont get this stuff, it also will never be put on paper, storing it on paper would wreck it, maybe only by 1-2% purity drop, but more than half of the work put into this lsd was getting that last 1-2% purity, so no paper.
lsd is no where near hard to produce. the hard part is finding the money and the time. if you can find the money for all the supplies you need, and then some to back it if you fuck up. then you can buy all the equipment and supplies nessacery to make lsd, within 6 months. without knowing a SOUL to help you. if you have all the supplies then start reasearching either how to make it or just learn chemistry in general, and youll be able to amke it better than the person that was taught how to make lsd and not taught chemistry.
i think learning the chemistry would be the hardest part to be honest.
i would say learnt he chemistry, then you can make your own synth for lsd, because even now, people are trying new synths, new ways to clean up , new everything. there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd. i know of about 500 different ways to make it off the top of my head. now when you start using differing sources of ergot, with different lysegic levels in each. i know ten places where i can get wild ergot and 30 places where i can buy the stuff, 500 times 40 is 20,000 different ways, start getting isolates of each of those forty sources of ergot and then use that to make it, theres 60,000 different products, and we havent even gotten into different solvents.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751716 - 06/02/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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10 grams is 33,000 300ug doses, right?
how much more do you need?
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751749 - 06/02/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the last part, if any question about the synthesis, feel free to ask 
Synthesis of hydrazine: Mix 0.5g of glycerin with 20ml of water and then add 15.5g of urea to this solution, into another flask mix HCl and sodium hypochlorite (or any other source of Cl2) and then bubble the chlorine produced into the urea solution. Mix 31g NaOH in 40ml of water and then add this solution to the chlorourea, the final product will 12,9g of hydrazine, to recover it simply add concentrated sulfuric acid to the solution to form a water-insoluble salt.
Synthesis of diethylamine: In anhydrous ethanol 46,1g add 49g of concentrated sulfuric acid and distil at 209ºC accurate. To 18,7g anhydrous ammonia (going through a calcium chloride tube), liquefied (-77ºC), add diethyl sulfate extremely slow (the more the better). To separate diethylamine from rest of the chemicals simply distill the solution at room temperature (18-25°C) for 10 minutes and discard, then at 55°C to collect 36g diethylamine 97%.
all the glassware you will be needing is: 1 500ml 3-neck round bottom flask (LSA-->LSD) 1 distillation setup 1 heating and mixing mantle 4 500ml round bottom flask (making reagents, distillation, securing hydrazine process)
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21751750 - 06/02/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, this is the amount.
but if your making ten grams of lsd, im assuming you really want or need it. the people i know who make it, havent come down for the past 20-40 years, and also probably never will. because like they do, i beleive its better to just stay high on lsd your whole life than come down. i have my reasons for this that i will not get into in this thread because it would throw it completely off track so please do not ask in this thread. regardless it takes a lot of lsd to make that happen. and also if your making lsd im assuming your feeding alott of your friends and family lsd, because they more than likely have the same feelings about it as you.
so say the average of the amount of lsd you feed one person every year is around a tenth of a gram per year, some eat more others eat less, this is an average. those ten grams you made will last 100 people a year. personally, i get fed stuff out of an ounce that is made every year for the people who need it.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751778 - 06/02/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: i think it would be much more worth your while to just grow rye and infect it with ergot yourself and use that to make some ET and go from there, fuck seeds, good luck.
as for the synth, erything looks easy on paper. its the setting up and getting everything together thats the tough part. if youve got a steady hand and steady eye, the actual doing part is not so difficult, if you understand completely what your doing. which i beleive if you can make white dmt crystals you could make LSD.
as for making the chemicals yourself. if your pushing out hundreds or thousands of grams of lsd. its probably not worthwhile. you would more than likely buy, or open a buissiness that needed the chemical your trying to use, keep the buissiness going all the same and just slip whatever amount of chems out as you need them. that is, if you couldnt find a dealer that you can buy these chems and precursors off of with cash.(i have been approached from total strangers at fests hundreds of miles from my home about precursors or solvents, for any drug i may have wanted to produce, multiple times, so dont tell me these precursors or chems are difficult to find)
if you making tens of grams and you enjoy chemistry, maybe yeah you would want to make your own chems and precursors from scratch.
again, if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you would probably take the easiest shortest and cheapest route to get the end product, which is the synth or close to the synth you have up there(although your synth shows the chemical reaction on paper, there are many many ways to make that same chemical reaction happen, so a different synthesis holds the same reactions with the same step to step, just different way of making it happen). youd also probably end up with 60-70% purity and just get rid of it cheaply as that for people to pass around or more than likely people will buy it and clean it up to 80-90% purity themselves, losing weight for a purer product thats worth more, get it?
if your making tens of grams youd probably take a longer, more expensive and more time consuming route, to get a more stable, pure and better looking product. you would also probably spend more time cleaning it up better once it was done.
now if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you are making the stuff 98% if not more of the people that eat lsd are eating. its production, commercial, street level lsd at 60-upper 70% purity at best.
if you are making around ten grams of lsd, you are making the best possible product you can make ont his planet. its costing you 2-30 cents per hit to make and you probably sell those hits to your closest friends for 50 cents to a dollar and they more than likely eat it and give it away. so pretty much no one gets this stuff unless your bestfriend is making it. you actually more than likely just give the shit away. people dont get to eat this stuff unless they watched it get made about 98% of the time. if you pay money or anything for lsd, i promise you dont get this stuff, it also will never be put on paper, storing it on paper would wreck it, maybe only by 1-2% purity drop, but more than half of the work put into this lsd was getting that last 1-2% purity, so no paper.
lsd is no where near hard to produce. the hard part is finding the money and the time. if you can find the money for all the supplies you need, and then some to back it if you fuck up. then you can buy all the equipment and supplies nessacery to make lsd, within 6 months. without knowing a SOUL to help you. if you have all the supplies then start reasearching either how to make it or just learn chemistry in general, and youll be able to amke it better than the person that was taught how to make lsd and not taught chemistry.
i think learning the chemistry would be the hardest part to be honest.
i would say learnt he chemistry, then you can make your own synth for lsd, because even now, people are trying new synths, new ways to clean up , new everything. there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd. i know of about 500 different ways to make it off the top of my head. now when you start using differing sources of ergot, with different lysegic levels in each. i know ten places where i can get wild ergot and 30 places where i can buy the stuff, 500 times 40 is 20,000 different ways, start getting isolates of each of those forty sources of ergot and then use that to make it, theres 60,000 different products, and we havent even gotten into different solvents.
man, that's some awesome hints I'll take for life, thanks, in fact, there is a one step synth for LSD, but probably too hard to make at home and I have no idea of what solvent is should use, as mixing the 2 reagents themselves would result in alot degradation: d-LA + (CH3CH2)2NLi ----> LSD + LiOH
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751781 - 06/02/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, when you have the last step ready to setup to make something into lsd, isnt all lsd made into lsd with only one step? lol
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751784 - 06/02/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i just wanna make it for myself :p 100.000 100ug doses are probably a lifetime of LSD in the future i can make more if i succeed in the first place, as my friends will probably get some hits (for free) and sometimes i will take more than 100ug
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751795 - 06/02/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i mean honestly, it may be harder or impossible to only make a small amount of lsd, ive never tried. but i mean to like make a gram or less, i just cant see anyone getting everything together too only make that amount, like i think even ten grams would be pretty hard to produce. i think the easiest interval to make it at would be like 250 grams. any more and itll be work and any less itll be work.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751803 - 06/02/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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needs to be more available. there are plenty of people who are sure they cant get it.
i see it available, but not as readily available as it should be.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751817 - 06/02/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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somewhere on the internet a chemist made 70 mg of lsd as a precipitate from 2 E.T. pills. it came out yellow in color where the edges were somewhat white, idt he had the knowhow or equipment to turn the precipitate into a crystal.
thats another thing, most "crystal lsd" is just powdered lsd thats leftover when after the lsd precipitates from the solvent, and said solvent is evapporated and whats left is just powder lsd. i mean yeah they are tiny tiny crystals, but what you want is a crystal not a powder, you want on nice solid hunk of lsd, which you turn that precipitate into. but again, 98% or more of people eating lsd will never get stuff that good. precipitates cost aroun4-10,000 a gram(40-100 cents per 100 ug dose) actual pieces of crystal go for 20-30 thousand a gram. 2-3 dollars per 100 ug dose. people dont get it unless they know the guy making it, its sad.
yes it is way more available than people think. if you have money, and a little time. and put yourself in the right place, you will find what your looking for in hours or less. me being a complete and total stranger found it once in under 5 minutes of looking, any amount of crystal i wanted in ten different forms across 5 different purities, if i had cash it would have been mine. literally like the real problem is not enough people want it. theres more lsd on the planet than every man women and child would need for the next couple years. but the tough part for the people thathave it is finding the people that want it. the hardest part about getting it is having the money to buy it.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751861 - 06/02/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting thread.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751876 - 06/02/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751910 - 06/02/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sry u only need 8Kg HB or 4Kg HBWR
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751931 - 06/02/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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that does bring the cost down a bit. @ ~ $400 kg hbwr (current ebay price)
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752268 - 06/02/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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at 0.14% lsa content that killogram has about 14 grams of lsa in it. which would make about 5 grams of lsd or less. so thats 600 in chems and precursors to get the precurosor for lsd.
or you can get some ergot on rye isolate enough of that until you find the one that grows ergot that has the highest alkaloid content in it(which for mycologists, not hard to do). even if you didnt want to isolate to get the highest lsa content, you could literally have thousands of grams of ergot to make thousands of grams of egotomine tartate to make thousands of grams of lsd with, only for the cost of chems to turn the ergot into ergotomine tartate. more than likely not much more than it cost to get 14 grams of lsa from a costly and messy extraction with seeds, also there is plenty of bunk seeds out there that youll get ntohing from. 0.14% lsa is a high average.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21752356 - 06/02/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nod, ergot has always been the best method, i think making ET people usually do it in a LC with o2 bubblers, right?
i have no beef with people using methods with hbwr tho, as its less obvious.
and not as potentially deadly. 
but yeah.
ordering ergot spores + making jars with silicon tubing for bubblers injection ports for adding lc.
putting tiny bits of agar in the bottom of the jars. allowing them to colonize and then blended up rye and water through the injection port.
im sure someone has a tek which would be better. but. that should work,
you'd need plastic room with hepa air.
probably safest to use a hazmat suit in the room.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21752397 - 06/02/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: at 0.14% lsa content that killogram has about 14 grams of lsa in it. which would make about 5 grams of lsd or less. so thats 600 in chems and precursors to get the precurosor for lsd.
or you can get some ergot on rye isolate enough of that until you find the one that grows ergot that has the highest alkaloid content in it(which for mycologists, not hard to do). even if you didnt want to isolate to get the highest lsa content, you could literally have thousands of grams of ergot to make thousands of grams of egotomine tartate to make thousands of grams of lsd with, only for the cost of chems to turn the ergot into ergotomine tartate. more than likely not much more than it cost to get 14 grams of lsa from a costly and messy extraction with seeds, also there is plenty of bunk seeds out there that youll get ntohing from. 0.14% lsa is a high average.
not exactly... it depends much of your ability.. if one would perfectly convert 10g LSA to LSD's active isomer, he would obtain 12,1g LSD
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752407 - 06/02/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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a better tek is a ergot reactor, search for it on google images
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21752460 - 06/02/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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how long until you test it ?
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752752 - 06/02/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I really do I will post nowhere, not even in the deep web maybe I'll try it next year, not sure...
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21752756 - 06/02/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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boooo!!!!
you should verify results as soon as possible.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752769 - 06/02/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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rxb said: boooo!!!!
you should verify results as soon as possible.
I know but its too dangerous, I came here to see if anyone disapproves the synth and why... all the other synths I've posted here where wrong (only the 4-MeO-DMT succeeded), but theres been 2 days and nobody found any issue, that's my point, I'm very glad
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21753223 - 06/02/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Would love to see you do the extraction and pictures to go with it
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
#21753983 - 06/02/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, you may have me there. either way ergot is better. and that ergot reactor looks like quite the peice of equipment.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
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1- I've adapted this synthesis, that's why I am here in the first place, to ask about its functionality.
Ahhh...I see. so you don't even know yourself if it's going to work...and you came here to ask US??? Great plan you got there, fella.
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2- The extraction is mine, and I've never seen such a good one for large amounts
There are no shortcuts, and you didn't bumble your way onto one. Like I said earlier, if there was an easy way EVERYONE would already know about it, and would already be doing it.
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3- Let us dream man, why come here to get us down?
There is no "us" there is only you who think what you posted has merit. I certainly don't. Not "getting you down", either. Just providing a reality check on your pipe dream.
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In fact i got almost everything to make it, it's a small and very possible list...
Pix (YOUR OWN) or it didn't happen.
Also, please explain how you plan on doing the following requisite steps: 1) Isomerization of iso-LSD into the active LSD-25. You got a chromatography column to separate the iso-LSD??
2) Separation, purification & crystallization of LSD-25. How are you planning on doing that Mr. Wizard?
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21754176 - 06/02/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i cant remember if i typed the lsd 25 thing and deleted it or posted... but yeah.. being sure you have ACTIVE lsd is an important detail 
which is why you need to test it.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21754286 - 06/02/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think it is a very smart idea to link pictures of your LSD lab on a clearnet site
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21754695 - 06/02/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if it was me, i would try the tek... take photos.
remove all traces of the lab.
sell the equipment...
then post the tek with photos.
if you dont have the equipment, or the acid when they bust through the door, they cant bust you with nothing but a story and photos.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21754699 - 06/02/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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that said i wouldnt take a selfie with the lab.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21754829 - 06/02/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, please explain how you plan on doing the following requisite steps: 1) Isomerization of iso-LSD into the active LSD-25. You got a chromatography column to separate the iso-LSD??
2) Separation, purification & crystallization of LSD-25. How are you planning on doing that Mr. Wizard?
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1- I do not pretend to recrystallize or doing chromatography, I would probably just make an ethanolic lithium hydroxide solution, boil for 10 minutes and then add warm water and heat a little more for 15 minutes, trying to mantain at 100ºC at the whole time
2- hydrazide and pyrazole are insoluble in each solutions, so separation and purification wont be necessary, crystallysation for better blotter distribution will also not be necessary as i plan on diluting on a 10L gallon, and a drop would be 100ug
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21754844 - 06/02/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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with an excess hydrazine, extraction impurities wont be a problem, there is 3:1 mol hydrazine for LSA
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
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If you don't get arrested (probably the best outcome possible), you are going to poison yourself - or worse - poison others with your rank amateur alchemical nonsense. Neither you nor this thread are worth a revisit.
I will leave you with this as my opinion of your proposed LSD synthesis and your chemical knowledge, skills and ability:

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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: s240779]
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I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
#21757393 - 06/03/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not going to separate via chromatography or purify? Lol have fun with your inactive isomer ridden gunk.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
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love ya bro! finally someone said it!
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21757424 - 06/03/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://skunkpharmresearch.com/rotary-evaporator-from-siskiyou-sam/
Also gonna need one of these and proper spectrum UV lamp for the workup.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: ShroomDoom]
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ShroomDoom said: Not going to separate via chromatography or purify? Lol have fun with your inactive isomer ridden gunk.
i would end up with LSD, lumi-LSD and iso-LSD high PH in alcoholic solution (met/et/propanol) should convert it back to LSD lets say that in worst case scenario I would end up with 2:1 LSD/lumi-LSD lumi wont convert that easy, so I would have t do alot of cromatography and alcoholic baths, so i prefer doing a little more for precaution, cause i imagine i can extract more than 10g from HBWR, thats all I can think of... anybody got any idea on lumi-LSD conversion?
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: ShroomDoom]
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ShroomDoom said: http://skunkpharmresearch.com/rotary-evaporator-from-siskiyou-sam/
Also gonna need one of these and proper spectrum UV lamp for the workup.
sorry, can you explain it a little more? I don't see why it wouldn't work putting the solutions in UV presence just to check if there is any active still on that solution...
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
love ya bro! finally someone said it!
No worries mate just hate all the hating your getting, you obviously know what your talking about, even if you didn't you don't deserve this much hate about something
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
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i never can figure out why people get upset about innovative ideas.
they act like everything that will ever be discovered was discovered in 1914.
fact is there are things that WERE discovered in 1914 that still havent been given much attention, because at the time they werent practical.
and some that people just didnt notice.
somethings come back in style... like the electric car.
people who think and dream are PRICELESS. even if they have some blunders... support the notion of TRYING its not costing you anything.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
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Well said rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
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rxb said: i never can figure out why people get upset about innovative ideas.
they act like everything that will ever be discovered was discovered in 1914.
fact is there are things that WERE discovered in 1914 that still havent been given much attention, because at the time they werent practical.
and some that people just didnt notice.
somethings come back in style... like the electric car.
people who think and dream are PRICELESS. even if they have some blunders... support the notion of TRYING its not costing you anything.
I know right! The same thing can be said in a political sense as well. People need to understand that the only way we can progress as a species is to innovate on the ideas we have already come up with.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
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Exactly!
Look at mushroom cultivation. It used to be thought that an airpump inside a fruiting chamber was great. Now we know its a bunch of 1/4" holes on every side that uses natural drafts, aand this is one of the best setups out there.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
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whitelights said: there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd
i guess this applies to everything.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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This really isn't that novel of a route. That much seeds will be difficult to extract but it's doable. It's better to just stick to the commonly published peptide coupling reaction like in Casey Hardison 's writeup. You are kidding yourself if you think skipping the workup and re-x is a good idea.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: sbc1]
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
As anyone who has been here for any length of time knows, I've provided numerous easy to follow teks over the years, all of which have worked for hundreds, if not thousands of folks on this board. My STB tek for DMT is over 300 pages long and has been in use for over 6 years. FWIW, there's an excellent set reasons why I would NEVER under any circumstances attempt to synthesize LSD...the most significant of which is economic.
One of the MANY things the OP has not addressed is WHERE he plans on undertaking this attempt. In his home?? I doubt it. As with Owsley and Sands and every other legit LSD chemist of any worth, they set their clandestine lab up out of sight and in a rural area where the smells and business at hand would not come to anyone's attention. Just think about what THAT would cost.
Making "personal" sized batches of LSD would not make any sense whatsoever. The "economy of scale" just isn't there, and the risks are the same. Might as well just plunk down the same amount of money you would spend on the glassware alone and you would have a life-time's supply of legit LSD with no fuss whatsoever.
So...that leaves "production quantities." And that means BIG money, lots of help, and the need for a legitimate distribution network that doesn't lead back to the lab. Nearly impossible to keep secret. And that means jail. Forever at my age. Plus, I'm not one who thinks LSD is the world's panacea. It's just another boring molecule to me. And if I did one hit of LSD per year, that would be plenty for me. So there's ZERO motivation.
Now...if you good folks want to crowd source somewhere between $750,000 and $1,000,000 I would consider leaving my family for about 8 or 9 months, taking your money to China, setting up a lab there, and getting the job done. It might take even longer and cost more.
Here's the method I would use. As I've said, LEGIT teks HAVE been published here. Sadly, The OP's tek is NOT one of them. Anyone who believes it is is simply naive. I note that the OP never posted one single pix of the equipment he claims to possess. Also, why post this in the PE when there are sophisticated and knowledgeable folks in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum. Oh, right. I know why...because the ridicule would be even MORE fierce.
Anyone who wants to read a legit synthesis, here ya go: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
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Nature Boy, laying down the law. Wooooo!
It is rather insane how hard it is to make LSD though :/
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: ApexNightmare] 1
#21758741 - 06/03/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The image directly before LSD could be active on its own.
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website123
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rabidz7]
#21759452 - 06/03/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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tnx guys for the help and nice words, for now thats all I need
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rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21759466 - 06/03/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you need to test and verify and learn and grow.
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StygianKnight
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rabidz7]
#21759472 - 06/03/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The problem with teks like this is they make the process seem easy. I would love for someone to post an LSD tek only *after* they successful tried it.
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rxb
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: StygianKnight]
#21759484 - 06/03/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dont mind that he posted it.
i think we need more people with wide eyes. and we need to pat them on the back.
but thats step 1.
step 2 is you do it, you document it, and you work out the bugs.
THIS is the real public service.
step 3 is you figure out how to source it for the average joe.
step 4 is you teach the whole world how to do it, in a way they CAN do it.
step 5 be a hero forever.
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Godfather1376
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21762380 - 06/04/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As long as no personal testing is done before scientific testing, I don't see any problem with OP attempting this, even if he does ignore/work-around some pretty important steps. If he decided to try this tek, he could easily pay for a testing lab to test final product for him. Even if it doesn't show microgram amounts, it will show all chemicals in the result. So if it's incredibly impure or unsafe, the lab can just tell him through the results.
If it's complete shite, start from scratch again. If by some miracle this tek works as well as he wishes, then kudos.
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Deviate
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: Nature Boy]
#21762917 - 06/04/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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sbc1 said: I think NB should carry out a lsd synth he seems to have the chemical knowledge and skills to do it
As anyone who has been here for any length of time knows, I've provided numerous easy to follow teks over the years, all of which have worked for hundreds, if not thousands of folks on this board. My STB tek for DMT is over 300 pages long and has been in use for over 6 years. FWIW, there's an excellent set reasons why I would NEVER under any circumstances attempt to synthesize LSD...the most significant of which is economic.
One of the MANY things the OP has not addressed is WHERE he plans on undertaking this attempt. In his home?? I doubt it. As with Owsley and Sands and every other legit LSD chemist of any worth, they set their clandestine lab up out of sight and in a rural area where the smells and business at hand would not come to anyone's attention. Just think about what THAT would cost.
Making "personal" sized batches of LSD would not make any sense whatsoever. The "economy of scale" just isn't there, and the risks are the same. Might as well just plunk down the same amount of money you would spend on the glassware alone and you would have a life-time's supply of legit LSD with no fuss whatsoever.
So...that leaves "production quantities." And that means BIG money, lots of help, and the need for a legitimate distribution network that doesn't lead back to the lab. Nearly impossible to keep secret. And that means jail. Forever at my age. Plus, I'm not one who thinks LSD is the world's panacea. It's just another boring molecule to me. And if I did one hit of LSD per year, that would be plenty for me. So there's ZERO motivation.
Now...if you good folks want to crowd source somewhere between $750,000 and $1,000,000 I would consider leaving my family for about 8 or 9 months, taking your money to China, setting up a lab there, and getting the job done. It might take even longer and cost more.
Here's the method I would use. As I've said, LEGIT teks HAVE been published here. Sadly, The OP's tek is NOT one of them. Anyone who believes it is is simply naive. I note that the OP never posted one single pix of the equipment he claims to possess. Also, why post this in the PE when there are sophisticated and knowledgeable folks in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum. Oh, right. I know why...because the ridicule would be even MORE fierce.
Anyone who wants to read a legit synthesis, here ya go: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737
N.B.
I agree. I don't see what all the fuss is about LSD, I find both shrooms and cactus to be far superior. But if for whatever reason someone likes/wants LSD, then why not simply go to a festival and buy it? There are festivals all over the country every year, if you have the means to get all that is needed to synth LSD you have the means to get to a festival.
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