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imachavel
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lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide
#8042951 - 02/19/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i forget, can lsd be called both lysergic acid diethylamide AND lysergic acid diethylamine? or is it no longer classified as an amine when it becomes an amide?
anyway, i've never knowingly taken ald before, but has anyone here? is it significantly better than lsd? the same? a little better? let me know.....
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8042989 - 02/19/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread sucks.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: jellyfish]
#8047561 - 02/20/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah... i guess it does, these days it seems only crap posts get very good responses, although not entirely true i'm sure.......
NEONE?!?
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8052964 - 02/21/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ahhh fckn cmon!! anyone??!!???!?
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8052978 - 02/21/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread is very over my head.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: anyone420]
#8052998 - 02/21/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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for the love of god, if you are making LSD, PLEASE PLEASE send some to the toronto-ish area!
On topic- I have no fucking clue what you are talking about
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: anyone420]
#8053003 - 02/21/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i hear you, well, if you have the time, give it a shot i guess..... peace
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: anyone420]
#8053029 - 02/21/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's amide not amine, they are different.
I'm a bit skeptical about ALD-52, it may or may not be stable enough to make it through the bloodstream into the brain without being converted into LSD. I think it probably is stable enough. Given what's known about it, it seems impossible to say if the effects are different. If they are it's probably only slightly, like the difference between psilocin and 4-AcO-DMT.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: ultimo101]
#8053031 - 02/21/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'd never make lsd and post it on here.... you live in Toronto Canada? i know where to get lsd... but geez..... i don't know how i'd be able to get it up there, if you ever come down to Miami i'd sell you some i guess......
hey, check it out. what i'm talking about is ald-52, instead of lsd 25, ald-52 is supposed to turn into lsd on your tongue, but the experience is supposed to be a little nicer. has anyone proved that ald-52 doesn't get you high? maybe some gets to your brain without being dissolved... who knows? or do people....
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8053128 - 02/21/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it turned into LSD on your tongue, you would be taking LSD - it would have to be the same because it's the same drug! I think it probably lasts longer than that and may be slightly different but i don't think anyone knows for sure.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: jizmaster]
#8054832 - 02/22/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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maybe.... i have heard it's different... not much, but somewhat... don't know....
here's something to think about, psilocin hits you the same anyway you take it, right? after all, psilocybin doesn't get you high, psilocin does.....
well, a long ass time ago i did a psilocybin extract, the shit came out way cleaner... no lie, didn't even swallow any, just licked the pan, couldn't explain it..... ?????
there might be a shitload of things we don't know about..... you know
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8054887 - 02/22/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
imachavel said: maybe some gets to your brain without being dissolved... who knows? or do people....
Nothing gets to your brain without being dissolved.
Ever.
After uptake into your system (by any method of consumption), it first has to be solubilized into your serum, then it has to either be able to diffuse across the blood-brain barrier, or be transported across, or act via a secondary messenger which crosses the barrier.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8054893 - 02/22/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
imachavel said: there might be a shitload of things we don't know about..... you know
 Take a bow for the most obvious statement of the evening.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: Entropymancer]
#8055064 - 02/22/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shit, you can be a real asshole sometimes. 
well crap, i thought it was hard for people like you to understand we don't KNOW EVERYTHING... get that part 'KNOW EVERYTHING'? 
was that OBVIOUS? 
also, i didn't mean to say dissolved as in dissolved apart into your saliva, i mean the part that dissolved from ald for it to become lsd-25. i meant maybe some of the molecule is absorbed into your blood and not immediately dissolved....
anyway, back to the question. How many people here have experienced ald-52 and lsd, and does anyone notice a difference?
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8055449 - 02/22/08 08:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well I know I haven't tried ALD-52 and if no one else here has you can always watch the neurosoup girls vid on it, she describes it as sort of a mix of LSD with a valium or something along those lines; a bit more gentle than the LSD experience. Also quote, "not as deep" as the LSD experience:
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: Robo]
#8056490 - 02/22/08 01:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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not as deep, huh? that sounds crazy, it's supposed to decompose into lsd on your tongue or some shit....
well, i don't know if i trust her, but oh well...
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8057658 - 02/22/08 06:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, i'm guessing not a lot of people on here have experience with ald-52. ????? isn't it easier to store, double the life, no one makes it, huh?
well....
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8057762 - 02/22/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No one makes it because the precursor is LSD.
If you've got pure crystal, why fuck with a good thing?
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: imachavel]
#8057807 - 02/22/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its super rare man, you aren't going to find many that have had it.
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Re: lysergic acid diethylamine vs. n-acetyl lysergic acid diethylamide [Re: Entropymancer]
#8057923 - 02/22/08 07:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i got you, the shelf life is twice as long, but that's not going to make a difference to the maker, who probably wants to get rid of it as soon as possible.
so i guess you have pure crystal, and you can easily mess that up trying to make ald-52.
you're right about that, not many people have tried it. i could've sworn this one hit though, was a little different, i don't know, it was acid but... a little cleaner, a little nicer i guess... peace
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