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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123] 1
#21751586 - 06/02/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well im interested in seeing it step by step (with tests that confirm results).
and im interested in seeing where you propose to source the materials. (in most north american and european countries).
because if we used tracked sources or impossible to get chems you may as well say "wave a magic wand".
good luck, i cant wait to see your results.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#21751599 - 06/02/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Wow, there it is. The recipe!
But, a 10g LSA to 10g LSD perfect conversion sounds far-fetched. Nothings 100% conversion in chemistry.
And sadly, i believe that diethylamine is a heavily-controlled substance as it it the "magic" final ingredient to LSD synth.
actually, LSD is heavier than LSA, so it isn't a 1:1 conversion, the synth just shows the ideal procedure, depending how well you do your synth you can vary from 0 to 10g, and if you have good seeds you can extract up to 15g, then you just readapt it!
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751712 - 06/02/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think it would be much more worth your while to just grow rye and infect it with ergot yourself and use that to make some ET and go from there, fuck seeds, good luck.
as for the synth, erything looks easy on paper. its the setting up and getting everything together thats the tough part. if youve got a steady hand and steady eye, the actual doing part is not so difficult, if you understand completely what your doing. which i beleive if you can make white dmt crystals you could make LSD.
as for making the chemicals yourself. if your pushing out hundreds or thousands of grams of lsd. its probably not worthwhile. you would more than likely buy, or open a buissiness that needed the chemical your trying to use, keep the buissiness going all the same and just slip whatever amount of chems out as you need them. that is, if you couldnt find a dealer that you can buy these chems and precursors off of with cash.(i have been approached from total strangers at fests hundreds of miles from my home about precursors or solvents, for any drug i may have wanted to produce, multiple times, so dont tell me these precursors or chems are difficult to find)
if you making tens of grams and you enjoy chemistry, maybe yeah you would want to make your own chems and precursors from scratch.
again, if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you would probably take the easiest shortest and cheapest route to get the end product, which is the synth or close to the synth you have up there(although your synth shows the chemical reaction on paper, there are many many ways to make that same chemical reaction happen, so a different synthesis holds the same reactions with the same step to step, just different way of making it happen). youd also probably end up with 60-70% purity and just get rid of it cheaply as that for people to pass around or more than likely people will buy it and clean it up to 80-90% purity themselves, losing weight for a purer product thats worth more, get it?
if your making tens of grams youd probably take a longer, more expensive and more time consuming route, to get a more stable, pure and better looking product. you would also probably spend more time cleaning it up better once it was done.
now if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you are making the stuff 98% if not more of the people that eat lsd are eating. its production, commercial, street level lsd at 60-upper 70% purity at best.
if you are making around ten grams of lsd, you are making the best possible product you can make ont his planet. its costing you 2-30 cents per hit to make and you probably sell those hits to your closest friends for 50 cents to a dollar and they more than likely eat it and give it away. so pretty much no one gets this stuff unless your bestfriend is making it. you actually more than likely just give the shit away. people dont get to eat this stuff unless they watched it get made about 98% of the time. if you pay money or anything for lsd, i promise you dont get this stuff, it also will never be put on paper, storing it on paper would wreck it, maybe only by 1-2% purity drop, but more than half of the work put into this lsd was getting that last 1-2% purity, so no paper.
lsd is no where near hard to produce. the hard part is finding the money and the time. if you can find the money for all the supplies you need, and then some to back it if you fuck up. then you can buy all the equipment and supplies nessacery to make lsd, within 6 months. without knowing a SOUL to help you. if you have all the supplies then start reasearching either how to make it or just learn chemistry in general, and youll be able to amke it better than the person that was taught how to make lsd and not taught chemistry.
i think learning the chemistry would be the hardest part to be honest.
i would say learnt he chemistry, then you can make your own synth for lsd, because even now, people are trying new synths, new ways to clean up , new everything. there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd. i know of about 500 different ways to make it off the top of my head. now when you start using differing sources of ergot, with different lysegic levels in each. i know ten places where i can get wild ergot and 30 places where i can buy the stuff, 500 times 40 is 20,000 different ways, start getting isolates of each of those forty sources of ergot and then use that to make it, theres 60,000 different products, and we havent even gotten into different solvents.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751716 - 06/02/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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10 grams is 33,000 300ug doses, right?
how much more do you need?
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751749 - 06/02/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the last part, if any question about the synthesis, feel free to ask 
Synthesis of hydrazine: Mix 0.5g of glycerin with 20ml of water and then add 15.5g of urea to this solution, into another flask mix HCl and sodium hypochlorite (or any other source of Cl2) and then bubble the chlorine produced into the urea solution. Mix 31g NaOH in 40ml of water and then add this solution to the chlorourea, the final product will 12,9g of hydrazine, to recover it simply add concentrated sulfuric acid to the solution to form a water-insoluble salt.
Synthesis of diethylamine: In anhydrous ethanol 46,1g add 49g of concentrated sulfuric acid and distil at 209ºC accurate. To 18,7g anhydrous ammonia (going through a calcium chloride tube), liquefied (-77ºC), add diethyl sulfate extremely slow (the more the better). To separate diethylamine from rest of the chemicals simply distill the solution at room temperature (18-25°C) for 10 minutes and discard, then at 55°C to collect 36g diethylamine 97%.
all the glassware you will be needing is: 1 500ml 3-neck round bottom flask (LSA-->LSD) 1 distillation setup 1 heating and mixing mantle 4 500ml round bottom flask (making reagents, distillation, securing hydrazine process)
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21751750 - 06/02/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, this is the amount.
but if your making ten grams of lsd, im assuming you really want or need it. the people i know who make it, havent come down for the past 20-40 years, and also probably never will. because like they do, i beleive its better to just stay high on lsd your whole life than come down. i have my reasons for this that i will not get into in this thread because it would throw it completely off track so please do not ask in this thread. regardless it takes a lot of lsd to make that happen. and also if your making lsd im assuming your feeding alott of your friends and family lsd, because they more than likely have the same feelings about it as you.
so say the average of the amount of lsd you feed one person every year is around a tenth of a gram per year, some eat more others eat less, this is an average. those ten grams you made will last 100 people a year. personally, i get fed stuff out of an ounce that is made every year for the people who need it.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751778 - 06/02/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: i think it would be much more worth your while to just grow rye and infect it with ergot yourself and use that to make some ET and go from there, fuck seeds, good luck.
as for the synth, erything looks easy on paper. its the setting up and getting everything together thats the tough part. if youve got a steady hand and steady eye, the actual doing part is not so difficult, if you understand completely what your doing. which i beleive if you can make white dmt crystals you could make LSD.
as for making the chemicals yourself. if your pushing out hundreds or thousands of grams of lsd. its probably not worthwhile. you would more than likely buy, or open a buissiness that needed the chemical your trying to use, keep the buissiness going all the same and just slip whatever amount of chems out as you need them. that is, if you couldnt find a dealer that you can buy these chems and precursors off of with cash.(i have been approached from total strangers at fests hundreds of miles from my home about precursors or solvents, for any drug i may have wanted to produce, multiple times, so dont tell me these precursors or chems are difficult to find)
if you making tens of grams and you enjoy chemistry, maybe yeah you would want to make your own chems and precursors from scratch.
again, if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you would probably take the easiest shortest and cheapest route to get the end product, which is the synth or close to the synth you have up there(although your synth shows the chemical reaction on paper, there are many many ways to make that same chemical reaction happen, so a different synthesis holds the same reactions with the same step to step, just different way of making it happen). youd also probably end up with 60-70% purity and just get rid of it cheaply as that for people to pass around or more than likely people will buy it and clean it up to 80-90% purity themselves, losing weight for a purer product thats worth more, get it?
if your making tens of grams youd probably take a longer, more expensive and more time consuming route, to get a more stable, pure and better looking product. you would also probably spend more time cleaning it up better once it was done.
now if your making hundreds or thousands of grams, you are making the stuff 98% if not more of the people that eat lsd are eating. its production, commercial, street level lsd at 60-upper 70% purity at best.
if you are making around ten grams of lsd, you are making the best possible product you can make ont his planet. its costing you 2-30 cents per hit to make and you probably sell those hits to your closest friends for 50 cents to a dollar and they more than likely eat it and give it away. so pretty much no one gets this stuff unless your bestfriend is making it. you actually more than likely just give the shit away. people dont get to eat this stuff unless they watched it get made about 98% of the time. if you pay money or anything for lsd, i promise you dont get this stuff, it also will never be put on paper, storing it on paper would wreck it, maybe only by 1-2% purity drop, but more than half of the work put into this lsd was getting that last 1-2% purity, so no paper.
lsd is no where near hard to produce. the hard part is finding the money and the time. if you can find the money for all the supplies you need, and then some to back it if you fuck up. then you can buy all the equipment and supplies nessacery to make lsd, within 6 months. without knowing a SOUL to help you. if you have all the supplies then start reasearching either how to make it or just learn chemistry in general, and youll be able to amke it better than the person that was taught how to make lsd and not taught chemistry.
i think learning the chemistry would be the hardest part to be honest.
i would say learnt he chemistry, then you can make your own synth for lsd, because even now, people are trying new synths, new ways to clean up , new everything. there will always be a simpler, easier, faster, more efficent way to do about anything in chemistry, ALWAYS, the same applies to lsd. i know of about 500 different ways to make it off the top of my head. now when you start using differing sources of ergot, with different lysegic levels in each. i know ten places where i can get wild ergot and 30 places where i can buy the stuff, 500 times 40 is 20,000 different ways, start getting isolates of each of those forty sources of ergot and then use that to make it, theres 60,000 different products, and we havent even gotten into different solvents.
man, that's some awesome hints I'll take for life, thanks, in fact, there is a one step synth for LSD, but probably too hard to make at home and I have no idea of what solvent is should use, as mixing the 2 reagents themselves would result in alot degradation: d-LA + (CH3CH2)2NLi ----> LSD + LiOH
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751781 - 06/02/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, when you have the last step ready to setup to make something into lsd, isnt all lsd made into lsd with only one step? lol
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751784 - 06/02/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i just wanna make it for myself :p 100.000 100ug doses are probably a lifetime of LSD in the future i can make more if i succeed in the first place, as my friends will probably get some hits (for free) and sometimes i will take more than 100ug
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751795 - 06/02/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i mean honestly, it may be harder or impossible to only make a small amount of lsd, ive never tried. but i mean to like make a gram or less, i just cant see anyone getting everything together too only make that amount, like i think even ten grams would be pretty hard to produce. i think the easiest interval to make it at would be like 250 grams. any more and itll be work and any less itll be work.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751803 - 06/02/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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needs to be more available. there are plenty of people who are sure they cant get it.
i see it available, but not as readily available as it should be.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751817 - 06/02/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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somewhere on the internet a chemist made 70 mg of lsd as a precipitate from 2 E.T. pills. it came out yellow in color where the edges were somewhat white, idt he had the knowhow or equipment to turn the precipitate into a crystal.
thats another thing, most "crystal lsd" is just powdered lsd thats leftover when after the lsd precipitates from the solvent, and said solvent is evapporated and whats left is just powder lsd. i mean yeah they are tiny tiny crystals, but what you want is a crystal not a powder, you want on nice solid hunk of lsd, which you turn that precipitate into. but again, 98% or more of people eating lsd will never get stuff that good. precipitates cost aroun4-10,000 a gram(40-100 cents per 100 ug dose) actual pieces of crystal go for 20-30 thousand a gram. 2-3 dollars per 100 ug dose. people dont get it unless they know the guy making it, its sad.
yes it is way more available than people think. if you have money, and a little time. and put yourself in the right place, you will find what your looking for in hours or less. me being a complete and total stranger found it once in under 5 minutes of looking, any amount of crystal i wanted in ten different forms across 5 different purities, if i had cash it would have been mine. literally like the real problem is not enough people want it. theres more lsd on the planet than every man women and child would need for the next couple years. but the tough part for the people thathave it is finding the people that want it. the hardest part about getting it is having the money to buy it.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751861 - 06/02/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting thread.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21751876 - 06/02/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: well, when you have the last step ready to setup to make something into lsd, isnt all lsd made into lsd with only one step? lol
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751910 - 06/02/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sry u only need 8Kg HB or 4Kg HBWR
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: website123]
#21751931 - 06/02/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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that does bring the cost down a bit. @ ~ $400 kg hbwr (current ebay price)
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752268 - 06/02/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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at 0.14% lsa content that killogram has about 14 grams of lsa in it. which would make about 5 grams of lsd or less. so thats 600 in chems and precursors to get the precurosor for lsd.
or you can get some ergot on rye isolate enough of that until you find the one that grows ergot that has the highest alkaloid content in it(which for mycologists, not hard to do). even if you didnt want to isolate to get the highest lsa content, you could literally have thousands of grams of ergot to make thousands of grams of egotomine tartate to make thousands of grams of lsd with, only for the cost of chems to turn the ergot into ergotomine tartate. more than likely not much more than it cost to get 14 grams of lsa from a costly and messy extraction with seeds, also there is plenty of bunk seeds out there that youll get ntohing from. 0.14% lsa is a high average.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21752356 - 06/02/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nod, ergot has always been the best method, i think making ET people usually do it in a LC with o2 bubblers, right?
i have no beef with people using methods with hbwr tho, as its less obvious.
and not as potentially deadly. 
but yeah.
ordering ergot spores + making jars with silicon tubing for bubblers injection ports for adding lc.
putting tiny bits of agar in the bottom of the jars. allowing them to colonize and then blended up rye and water through the injection port.
im sure someone has a tek which would be better. but. that should work,
you'd need plastic room with hepa air.
probably safest to use a hazmat suit in the room.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: whitelights]
#21752397 - 06/02/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: at 0.14% lsa content that killogram has about 14 grams of lsa in it. which would make about 5 grams of lsd or less. so thats 600 in chems and precursors to get the precurosor for lsd.
or you can get some ergot on rye isolate enough of that until you find the one that grows ergot that has the highest alkaloid content in it(which for mycologists, not hard to do). even if you didnt want to isolate to get the highest lsa content, you could literally have thousands of grams of ergot to make thousands of grams of egotomine tartate to make thousands of grams of lsd with, only for the cost of chems to turn the ergot into ergotomine tartate. more than likely not much more than it cost to get 14 grams of lsa from a costly and messy extraction with seeds, also there is plenty of bunk seeds out there that youll get ntohing from. 0.14% lsa is a high average.
not exactly... it depends much of your ability.. if one would perfectly convert 10g LSA to LSD's active isomer, he would obtain 12,1g LSD
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Re: what you think about this synth? [Re: rxb]
#21752407 - 06/02/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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a better tek is a ergot reactor, search for it on google images
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