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The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation,
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whether or not there is any "truth to it", if a person can't remember previous lifetimes, it makes no sense to say they are the same person "in their spirit" or "at their core" or whatever. To me.

:shrug:

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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What about the people who do? I've read more than one report on people knowing shit about a previous life they had no way of knowing about and giving very specific details. I dunno how true it all actually is, but still.. It's something to consider. Maybe they really do remember parts of their former life. Have also heard similar stories from people getting organ transplants.

Then we have to consider what really makes a person who they are. Is it just their actions and feelings, or is a person who they are because they have a propensity towards certain things? If the soul contains that propensity, and we base it on that, then the person they were in the former life and the one they are now is the same.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Shroomslip] * 3
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Honestly I think those people are generally just delusional.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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anything is possible. I respect your opinion, OP, but its just that. An opinion. We will know when we die, then if we are born again we will forget again. Damn life always damning our memories and shittt..


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Shroomslip]
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My concept of reincarnation is that the soul inside me refers to itself as "I" as do all human beings.  We are each a human being, and after I die there will be more human beings.  We are all the same being, with the same soul, the soul of the Universe.  We are different spirits of the same soul.  This soul is eternal and will continue to incarnate into more beings after I am gone.  To me, this is reincarnation.  We only have one life as this spirit, but eternal lifetimes as the universal soul.  This is why we should all try to make the world a better place, because the future "I" will inherit the planet.  We could work and making it a heavenly place, or we could destroy it into a hellish place.

If we create situations that are fucked up and perpetuate evil, then another "I" will be forced to experience that evil eventually.  This is also my concept of Karma.  It's not that all my deeds are weighed against me and then I'm judged- that concept is a control mechanism.  To me, Karma means that when I do something wrong or bad to someone else, on the deepest sense I am doing wrong to myself as we come from the same source and have the same soul AKA God.


edit:  Each raindrop has its own volume, each snowflake its own pattern.  But they are all just water.  We are the raindrops of the Universe.  We each have our own traits (spirit), but we are just energy (soul). 


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Confucius say: He who sticks drugs in butthole has head up ass. 


Edited by MrBlueYoMind (04/04/15 11:00 PM)

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
anything is possible. I respect your opinion, OP, but its just that. An opinion. We will know when we die, then if we are born again we will forget again. Damn life always damning our memories and shittt..


I mean in a scientific sense...But only if by us you mean the entire human collective spirit

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
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MrBlueYoMind said:
My concept of reincarnation is that the soul inside me refers to itself as "I" as do all human beings.  We are each a human being, and after I die there will be more human beings.  We are all the same being, with the same soul, the soul of the Universe.  We are different spirits of the same soul.  This soul is eternal and will continue to incarnate into more beings after I am gone.  To me, this is reincarnation.  We only have one life as this spirit, but eternal lifetimes as the universal soul.  This is why we should all try to make the world a better place, because the future "I" will inherit the planet.  We could work and making it a heavenly place, or we could destroy it into a hellish place.

If we create situations that are fucked up and perpetuate evil, then another "I" will be forced to experience that evil eventually.  This is also my concept of Karma.  It's not that all my deeds are weighed against me and then I'm judged- that concept is a control mechanism.  To me, Karma means that when I do something wrong or bad to someone else, on the deepest sense I am doing wrong to myself as we come from the same source and have the same soul AKA God.


edit:  Each raindrop has its own volume, each snowflake its own pattern.  But they are all just water.  We are the raindrops of the Universe.  We each have our own traits (spirit), but we are just energy (soul). 


sure I think along the same lines, see my sig, but that isn't the way most people think about reincarnation

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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Anyone who believes a divine power is going to save them is delusional.


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Honestly I think those people are generally just delusional.


Like I said, I don't know how true it is, but delusion wouldn't explain away them knowing (and having these memories confirmed by close friends and family of the deceased) very specific details only that person could've known. I've watched a lot of documentaries on the subject.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Anyone who believes a divine power is going to save them is delusional.


I don't think reincarnation necessarily invokes any so called divine powers.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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Nothing ever stays the same.

Each and everything is ever evolving.


You were born a child. Are you still a child? No? Yet you are the same person.


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          :dancingbear: Free time is the only time :dancingbear:                    :thatsinteresting:

Edited by CookieCrumbs (04/04/15 11:08 PM)

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Anyone who believes a divine power is going to save them is delusional.


Anyone who believes without a doubt that there is no divine power is delusional. Its all the same really. Gnostic athiest, gnostic theist. Both claim to know the unknowable.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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morrowasted said:
MrBlueYoMind said:
My concept of reincarnation is that the soul inside me refers to itself as "I" as do all human beings.  We are each a human being, and after I die there will be more human beings.  We are all the same being, with the same soul, the soul of the Universe.  We are different spirits of the same soul.  This soul is eternal and will continue to incarnate into more beings after I am gone.  To me, this is reincarnation.  We only have one life as this spirit, but eternal lifetimes as the universal soul.  This is why we should all try to make the world a better place, because the future "I" will inherit the planet.  We could work and making it a heavenly place, or we could destroy it into a hellish place.

If we create situations that are fucked up and perpetuate evil, then another "I" will be forced to experience that evil eventually.  This is also my concept of Karma.  It's not that all my deeds are weighed against me and then I'm judged- that concept is a control mechanism.  To me, Karma means that when I do something wrong or bad to someone else, on the deepest sense I am doing wrong to myself as we come from the same source and have the same soul AKA God.


edit:  Each raindrop has its own volume, each snowflake its own pattern.  But they are all just water.  We are the raindrops of the Universe.  We each have our own traits (spirit), but we are just energy (soul). 


sure I think along the same lines, see my sig, but that isn't the way most people think about reincarnation


From that perspective - perhaps it could be postulated that certain people have been able to tap into the overlaying consciousness of humanity and extract information from a life they (and everyone else) lived... the purpose of this potentially being that learning such information is vital/useful to their growth. :shrug:


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¿Check out some art m8?


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: twighead]
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energy gets made anew from humans... as carrion.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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On my last acid trip, the mind fuck I had was so intense that the only thought I could form was reincarnation. I also, concurrently, had a vision of infinite life as well as humanity's evolution towards God-like consciousness. I realized that we are eternal, and that we never die. We just keep on reincarnating for the sake of Love. Too bad my experience can't be objectively verified for all you scientific suckers...
:ahahaha:
So yeah, I don't believe in reincarnation. Rather, I know reincarnation as an experience. I've also read one of Osho's books and he remembers his past life.

Look up the Law of Conservation of Energy!

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: ImSl8]
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no.

no.

no.

no.

no.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: akira_akuma]
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if you are to believe that, then you are also expected to believe human carrion had somehow deposited it's metaphorical seed into your genome, and you had your ancestors in your blood, and surely you can't really?

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: akira_akuma]
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All that you are saying is argumentation. I don't give a fuck about the logic of what I know to be true in my experience.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: ImSl8] * 1
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ok so you believe that some you belong in the past and are the future of someone else and that means that you'll be inside them. cool.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: akira_akuma]
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I don't believe shit. You may wanna check up on your reading comprehension. I intuitively know that existence is beginning-less and endless. There you have it.

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