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CVG as a casing?
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Hey all just a quick question.. Since I'm doing a 27 qt mono and all I have is coir bricks. Since I'm only gonna need about 1/2 of what I'm going to pasteurize, can I save the rest of it to use as a casing? I've tried UTSE but nothing about the gypsum was in the threads.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: Filthschwein]
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yes


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: bodhisatta]
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Gypsum in a casing wont make any difference.

Casings, nutritious or not, should be pH buffed above 7 with lime to prevent mold from germinating on them.  If your using a substrate material for a casing that is not buffered you may run into mold early on in fruiting.  You also run the risk of your substrate just consuming it as more substrate (rendering the casing useless) because of the high nutrition.  Casings should be low to non nutritious for best results.

Edited by TheChief (11/20/14 12:05 PM)

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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: TheChief]
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TheChief said:
Gypsum in a casing wont make any difference.

Casings, nutritious or not, should be pH buffed above 7 with lime to prevent mold from germinating on them.  If your using a substrate material for a casing that is not buffered you may run into mold early on in fruiting.  You also run the risk of your substrate just consuming it as more substrate because of the high nutrition.  Casings should be low to non nutritious for best results.


Ok.. So maybe I'll just shelve the leftovers. I have links bookmarked for casing via franks shit in my sig. Is it more beneficial to case KSSS? I only have what amounts to 3 gts of spawn for that, hence the 27 qt mono.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: Filthschwein]
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Damion5050's Elemtary Coir tek has it as a casing and I see a lot of people casing with their substrate. I haven't heard of a higher likelihood of mold though.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: TheChief]
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TheChief said:
Gypsum in a casing wont make any difference.

Casings, nutritious or not, should be pH buffed above 7 with lime to prevent mold from germinating on them.  If your using a substrate material for a casing that is not buffered you may run into mold early on in fruiting.  You also run the risk of your substrate just consuming it as more substrate (rendering the casing useless) because of the high nutrition.  Casings should be low to non nutritious for best results.


:shake: gypsum will stabilize the ph which will other wise swing as the colonizing myc eats at it...gypsum kicks ass everywhere you toss it:laugh2:


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: cronicr]
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ive always used coir/verm 50/50 ratio with nothing else. and it works fantastic.

here is one example.



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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: eatyualive]
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oh i do too as it isnt' around all year here and i don't' go out of my way for it with cvg whatsoever, just pointing out that it isnt' a useless thing to use in casing layers and helps alot with peat/verm/lime:super:


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: cronicr]
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i've not used it a bunch of times and did just fine but it's beneficial for sure


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: bodhisatta]
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oh ive also used it with pans with great success as well.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: bodhisatta]
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I have never needed to buffer a coir or coir/verm casing. Both tubs in my sig were cased with either coir or coir/verm, as are almost all my grows.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I don't always case but when I do I use CVG.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
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I use either CV or CVG or just V to case.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: bodhisatta]
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yah I actually use just coir or just verm sometimes too.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
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I just cased 2 PE tubs with CVG a few days ago and the myc is really tearing through it. I'm not sure if I should let it go or what other options there are. Do you mist/fan with these casings?


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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I'm glad to have opened up a discussion here on using CVG this way. I want to try to case my KSSS when it colonizes (or whenever I'm supposed to). I've never cased anything so..:shrug: I think I'm going to spawn my KSSS today or tomorrow. I also have some albino PE I'm getting psyched about putting onto some agar:thumbup: And would like to have a feel for casings by the time the PE will be ready. Would I be better off using a different tek?


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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wowimflabbergasted said:
I just cased 2 PE tubs with CVG a few days ago and the myc is really tearing through it. I'm not sure if I should let it go or what other options there are. Do you mist/fan with these casings?


Did you case and fruit? Or case and leave in colonizing conditons? To case with coir I find you have to pay attention to your culture and how it behaves. Aggressive cultures do better when late cased or at least cased thick (0.5") and fruited. Slower cultures can simply be cased at 1/4" and fruited the next day.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said:
wowimflabbergasted said:
I just cased 2 PE tubs with CVG a few days ago and the myc is really tearing through it. I'm not sure if I should let it go or what other options there are. Do you mist/fan with these casings?


Did you case and fruit? Or case and leave in colonizing conditons? To case with coir I find you have to pay attention to your culture and how it behaves. Aggressive cultures do better when late cased or at least cased thick (0.5") and fruited. Slower cultures can simply be cased at 1/4" and fruited the next day.


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I think I'm gonna try the 50/50 coir/verm as a casing. Seems simple enough.


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: Filthschwein]
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So lets say I use Damion5050's tek and get that extra casing layer. How would I go about storing and then rehydrating this for a day while I wait to see how aggressive my culture is?


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Re: CVG as a casing? [Re: taGyo]
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Put it in a ziplock bag or even just leave it in the bucket. It won't contam.


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