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bassclef
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: blackdust] 1
#20751035 - 10/25/14 10:18 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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200F is to hot.. that sterilizes your sub.. you want pasteurized sub.. best way i've found is to heat my water to 175 degrees and pour it on off the burner in a cooler and close it up.. the cooler will keep it a perfect 145-170 for hours.
bucket tek failed for me several times as well, i switched to doing Franks jar tek but that was very tedious.. the act of taking the water to 175 + a cooler to keep the heat in has really helped my pasteurization process.
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bassclef] 1
#20751094 - 10/25/14 10:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. 200 is not too hot for CVG. It's too hot for proper pasteurization, but not too hot for prepping CVG. Your method works, too.
CVG does not require proper pasteurization. If you want to debate it, go here: Bucket Tek vs Pasteurization Thread
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You can sterilize your CVG and still will be contam resistant. CVG is a special case, not the same if you use manure.
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Peaceful Soul
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Hi Spitball I have bin looking around to find a bulk substrate that consist of ingredients that are obtainable where I live. I have not yet found such, so I think that I need to rethink things and start asking around for a little help; I have asket around to be hook up with some coco coir, but Nobody from around seems to know about it, I can hoverer get something Terrarien Humus: http://www.amazon.de/Terrarien-Kokosfaser-Ziegel-Brikett-Kokoseinstreu/dp/B006G9E0T6 I think it looks a lot like the coco coir, Can I use it instead? Am I so lucky that it might be what people from your part of the world would know as coco coir?
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Kokoseinstreu
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Peaceful Soul
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#21670003 - 05/12/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Kokoseinstreu
coir bedding auf Deutsch 
Thank you :-)
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lews2000
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Couldn't find a brick. Found a box of what they call 50 plantable coconut coir pellets. Each weighs around 7grams. I unwrapped enough of them to weigh what a brick does. will these work?
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: lews2000] 1
#22698784 - 12/25/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know. I've never used pellets.
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: lews2000] 1
#22699030 - 12/25/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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lews2000 said: Couldn't find a brick. Found a box of what they call 50 plantable coconut coir pellets. Each weighs around 7grams. I unwrapped enough of them to weigh what a brick does. will these work?
yup, they work fine but need a tad bit more water for some reason.
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: 13shrooms] 1
#22699191 - 12/25/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you.I shook all my jars of rye spawn. Do I need to wait till they recover or do it now? It's there a formula by weight or volume of spawn-choir-Verm. I have 4 quart jars about 3/4 full of spawn
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: lews2000] 1
#22699224 - 12/25/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you let them recover to see if it recovers right away or if any issues occur as a last chance contam check.. I just breakem up and spawn them. you want a ratio of 1 part spawn to 4 parts substrate minimum. I prefer 1:2 myself. more spawn= more inoculation points= faster colonization times= more energy left for fruiting and multiple flushes.
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: 13shrooms] 1
#22699262 - 12/25/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the quick and precise reply.
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flyhighfunguy

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Could i still pasteurize the substrate after using this method, or will it over cook the coir?
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bodhisatta 
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You cant over cook the coir. There would be absolutely no point to pasteurization after you already partially sterilized
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24833893 - 12/08/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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So once it's done with the hot water bath it's good to go?
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bodhisatta 
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Well its boiling water. And this guide would be useless if the coir wasn't ready to use after preparing it
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24833922 - 12/08/17 01:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The water bath should be boiling?
And yea lol that's a good point
Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/08/17 01:22 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Honestly i wouldn't do coir this way anyway. Just pour boiling water right on the brick in a bucket.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24834105 - 12/08/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there any tek that you would recommend? Do i just simply mix the Coir, verm and gypsum with boiling water and then allow to cool?
From what i've read i thought that the bucket tek was a more risky way of doing it.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/08/17 03:03 PM)
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mushboy
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bucket tek all the way.
even when i sterilize coco i still bucket tekk it so i can measure field capacity.
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