Shins said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

BlackWidow said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

How does that help little black girls?

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A non-racist amusement park opens, racist one closes due to boycotts.

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Wouldn't that be great!  We've tried it already and unfortunately things didn't work out that way at all.  Hence, the Civil Rights Act.

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How did it not work out that way?

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BlackWidow said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

How does that help little black girls?

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A non-racist amusement park opens, racist one closes due to boycotts.

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Gilgamesh18 said:

On the flip side most americans would not support shops that push racial segregation.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Gilgamesh18 said:

On the flip side most americans would not support shops that push racial segregation.

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But Americans would support racial segregation.  Even though most Americans claim they're against it, they supported it while it existed.  Hence, the Civil Rights Act was passed because free markets didn't fix things on their own.  That's why most laws are passed.

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BlackWidow said:

Gilgamesh18 said:

You seem to be laboring under the delusion that people in the US still have the attitudes of 1950s southerners lol.

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We have come a long way. Racism isn't acceptable in our society today. It just isn't.

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We discriminated for 200 years, then the Government finally told us to knock it off, and our attitudes changed.  That seems like a success story to me. 

Shins said:

If most Americans would support segregation,  isn't that democratic?  Aren't you a democrat?  Why does that need to be "fixed?"

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In Federalist No. 10, James Madison wrote “the great danger in republics is that the majority will not respect the rights of minority.”

The Declaration of Independence says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men".

So Government exists to protect these rights, not to step aside and let libertarians trample them. 

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

BlackWidow said:

Gilgamesh18 said:

You seem to be laboring under the delusion that people in the US still have the attitudes of 1950s southerners lol.

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We have come a long way. Racism isn't acceptable in our society today. It just isn't.

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We discriminated for 200 years, then the Government finally told us to knock it off, and our attitudes changed.  That seems like a success story to me. 

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Sure, the government changed our views.

Have you heard about MLK or Malcolm X? They worked their asses off for social change, not the government. Give credit where it's due.

BlackWidow said:

Have you heard about MLK or Malcolm X? They worked their asses off for social change, not the government. Give credit where it's due.

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Martin Luther King absolutely deserves a lot of credit for the helping get the Civil Rights Act passed.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

BlackWidow said:

Have you heard about MLK or Malcolm X? They worked their asses off for social change, not the government. Give credit where it's due.

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Martin Luther King absolutely deserves a lot of credit for the helping get the Civil Rights Act passed.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Shins said:

If most Americans would support segregation,  isn't that democratic?  Aren't you a democrat?  Why does that need to be "fixed?"

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In Federalist No. 10, James Madison wrote “the great danger in republics is that the majority will not respect the rights of minority.”

The Declaration of Independence says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men".

So Government exists to protect these rights, not to step aside and let libertarians trample them. 

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Of course.  But there were others before him, and we really didn't see much change until after the Civil Rights Act was passed.

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Shins said:

The government DOES NOT provide ANYTHING.  all the money it has it steals and extorts from taxpayers and the people.  It is insulting and patronizing to taxpayers like me to say things like "its free" and "the government provides it."  I am the one who provides it and other tax slaves like me being violently extorted by the state, at least give us credit where credit is due if you insist on hiring the government to violently extort and steal money from me to pay for other people's healthcare.

NOTHING IS FREE!

The government is not some magical never ending provider of money.  All the "free" government things come at aheavy cost!  A cost EVEN MORE expensive than if the government was not involved.

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