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Democrats giddy about chances in 2006
    #5062382 - 12/14/05 02:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Democrats giddy about chances in 2006


Bill Perry / AP
 
 

Mark Murray
Political reporter



ORLANDO, Fla. - Talk about a difference. This time a year ago, Democrats were in the midst of their winter of discontent. They had failed to defeat George W. Bush in the presidential election, they had lost four seats in the Senate, and they also had lost more ground in the House. ?We've got to reassess ourselves,? Democratic strategist James Carville lamented after the elections. ?We've got to be born again."

But as prominent Democrats (including those eyeing a presidential bid in 2008) gathered here in Walt Disney World over the weekend for the Florida Democratic Party?s conference, the mood was upbeat, boastful even, about picking up seats in next year?s midterm elections -- and perhaps even regaining control of Congress. ?I am hugely optimistic about our chances,?  former Sen. John Edwards, who was John Kerry?s running mate, told reporters.



?We?re coming, and we?re going to getcha,? the usually mild-mannered Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa told the gathering Saturday.

Did Disney World make these Democrats a bit, well, goofy? Hardly. They have plenty of reasons to feel optimistic about next year?s elections. Bush?s poll numbers remain at politically perilous levels, although they have begun to inch up. The public also is still dissatisfied with how the Bush administration has handled the Iraq war, the economy, and Hurricane Katrina.


In addition, ethics scandals have ensnared Republicans: A Texas prosecutor has indicted Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, on political money-laundering charges, forcing DeLay to step down from his leadership post in the House; Rep. Randy ?Duke? Cunningham, R-Calif., recently pleaded guilty on bribery and tax-evasion charges; and an ethical cloud surrounding Republican uber-lobbyist Jack Abramoff is hovering over additional GOP lawmakers. What?s more, Democrats can point their gubernatorial victories last month in New Jersey and Virginia as a sign of things to come in 2006.

Let's do the math
But Democrats might not want to begin drafting their victory speeches just yet. While the political environment certainly seems to be in their favor, they still have plenty of obstacles to overcome before taking back control of Congress, let alone picking up seats.

Perhaps the biggest obstacle is next year?s map. Republicans currently hold a 55-45 advantage in the Senate, a 230-203 advantage in the House, and a 28-22 advantage in governorships. Although there will be 33 Senate contests next year, only one of them -- in Tennessee -- features a Republican-held seat that?s open. That means Democrats, in order to take back control of the Senate, have to defeat five GOP incumbents, plus win the open seat. And that?s assuming Democrats don?t lose any seats they currently hold.

In the House, all 435 seats are up for grabs, but the nonpartisan Cook Political Report says that just 28 of them are competitive, and 18 of these are held by Republicans. That means Democrats must win 83 percent of these GOP-held competitive seats to take back the House, says National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Carl Forti. ?The math is very difficult.?

For Democrats, however, the math looks much better when it comes to next year?s 36 gubernatorial races. Republicans must defend 22 seats (seven of which have no incumbent, and that number could increase), while Democrats defend 14 seats (just one of which is open).

Democrats say they realize the math makes it difficult for them to win back Congress, but they believe the overall political environment, their fundraising, and their candidate recruitment has given them the opportunity to win seats next year. ?We feel pretty good about our chances to pick up seats,? says Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman Phil Singer. ?Things have gotten off to a very strong start.?
A message for the masses?
Yet before picking up these seats, Democrats have another obstacle in their path: their message. According to last month?s NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, just 11 percent of respondents said Democrats have a clear message for the future, while 18 percent said the same of Republicans. ?The best thing we have going for us is the national Democrats,? says Brian Nick, a spokesman at the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

And perhaps no issue has seemed to divide Democrats more than Iraq, as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., have advocated an immediate redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq, while Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., has backed Bush?s call to stay the course.

Democrats, though, used the conference in Orlando to dispel the perception that they don?t have a message. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., a rising Democratic star, told the audience on Saturday, ?We are the party of Jefferson... We are the party of [Franklin] Roosevelt... We are the party of the New Frontier.? The night before, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, who has received criticism for stating that the United States won?t be able to win in Iraq, highlighted his party?s message: honesty and integrity in government, a strong national defense, American jobs staying in America, health care for everyone, and a strong public education system.



House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., who also was attending the conference, said in an interview that Americans know where the Democratic Party stands on the issues versus its GOP counterparts. ?Poll after poll after poll is showing us to be way out ahead on every issue.?

Republicans & Democrats share obstacles
But Bernadette Budde, the senior vice president at BIPAC, a pro-business political group that mainly supports Republican candidates (also some Democrats), points out that Democrats have another challenge to overcome: The public is angry -- and not just at Republicans. Indeed, the November NBC/ Journal survey found that just 24 percent believe Republicans in Congress share their priorities, while 26 percent said Democrats do. ?Anyone holding office and isn't doing their job ... can be thrown out of office,? Budde said at a press briefing last week. ?We are thinking there could be a lot of surprises? in 2006.

Yet Hoyer believes the surprises will ultimately come at the GOP?s expense. ?Are Democrats popular at this point? No, we?re not. But why? Because the Republicans have created in the consciousness of the American people such a disappointment in politics in general. But the fact is, the Republicans control the town.? He concluded, ?The only way Americans are going to get change is to vote to change the leadership of the Congress.?

Rod Smith, a Democratic Florida state senator who?s running for governor next year, put it this way when he addressed the conference: ?The Republicans have been doing their part to make sure we win. Let?s do our part.?

But what happens if Democrats don?t do their part? What happens if they fail to pick up a sizable number of seats -- despite all of the Republican Party?s current troubles? ?Ask me a day after Election Day,? Hoyer replied.

Mark Murray covers politics for NBC News.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10455096/page/2/






"We?re coming, and we?re going to getcha"  :rofl2:


We're going to getcha money. We're going to getcha Guns. We're going to getcha freedoms. We're going to getcha property. We're going to getcha!



I am so glad they think they will win. That means they will continue to bash our military and our President and expect to win in '06.

Keep it up Dems. You are making it too easy.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5062763 - 12/14/05 04:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

From what I have read about the seats available to be had, and this is an off year election, there is not likely to be much change either way.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5062898 - 12/14/05 04:43 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I would say that they may be counting eggs befreo they are fried. I mean Their are some really rsspected republican potential candidates. The man, the legend ex mayor guliiani. I mean who better to run the country. He handled nine eleven like a champ.
There are also others.

The Dems think because Bush is a raging dummy that the have allready one the white house. I really hope they nominate Hillary, you wanna talk about a sure fire win or the reps, nominate a super liberal bitch.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5062905 - 12/14/05 04:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

disregard my post, I am still drunk and have just barely finished beating sandman out my head. sorry yall.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5063664 - 12/14/05 08:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Embarrassingly pathetic of these Democrats. A lot can happen in a year, especially with Karl Rove at the helm.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5063968 - 12/14/05 08:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Everybody here comes the democrats with the exact same solution to Iraq that Bush has.

The problem with the democrats is they sit around and complain about the republicans and remark how they will do better, and when their elected they fix nothing.

But to realize how much the democrat party is a joke. You also have to realize how an even larger joke the republican party is. Which is anything but fiscal.


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5064149 - 12/14/05 09:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

We're going to getcha money. We're going to getcha Guns. We're going to getcha freedoms. We're going to getcha property. We're going to getcha!




ha...and the republican party is just so responsibile when it comes to government spending and individual rights. Both the democrats and republicans are both shitheads - havent you figured that out yet?


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: Vvellum]
    #5066898 - 12/15/05 01:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Spongejohn Kerrypants Links Retaking House To Bush Impeachment

MA. Sen. John Kerry said last night that if Dems retake the House, there's a "solid case" to bring "articles of impeachment" against President Bush for allegedly misleading the country about pre-war intelligence, according to several Dems who attended.

Kerry was speaking at a holiday party for alumni of his WH '04 bid.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2005/12/kerry_links_ret.html


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Re: Democrats giddy about chances in 2006 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5068013 - 12/15/05 06:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not American, but if I was I would vote for John McCain, if he ever ran...

I would also NOT vote for Hillary, but would have voted for Colin Powell

Just on a "gut feeling" level I think McCain is a good centered leadership type, Powell is a great level headed diplomat, and Hilary is a shrill harpy...

But ignore this, had too many of these -->  :beer:

It's been a long night!!!  :grin:


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