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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: dblaney]
    #4403454 - 07/14/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually, I think I remember learning in my law class that you can in fact consent to only a partial search of a moving vehicle. For example, if the officer asks for consent to search, you could technically say, "I consent to a search only around objects beginning with an 'S', like a Steering wheel." Although that would probably really piss the cop off and they would end up searching your whole vehicle, though illegally.

The law is fuzzy around this subject, and frankly, I doubt anyone would want to test it.




yeah im very sure about this. i made it very clear to him that he could only search the cab, but knowing that he would search the whole thing anyways. but at least this way i would have had a defense in court had he chosen to prosecute me under the local paraphanelia ordinance, which i actually just looked up in the library.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4590300 - 08/28/05 06:15 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

'damn hippies


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: LysergicRide]
    #4590303 - 08/28/05 06:22 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Why did they bother searching after you told them they couldn't look in tha trunk??
I mean if you had stolen goods you would have told them to look anywhere but where they were kept!!??

Dumb cops


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: monolith4]
    #4590475 - 08/28/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Every state may be different, but here, your trunk is treated as a seperate entity from your car. (sorry if you have a station wagon or SUV) If you really wanted to be a dick to the cops, you could make them wait to get a search warrant to search your trunk. If you make em wait though, you better not have anything in there, otherwise they will be huge hemmroids. And if they searched your car and moved on to your trunk alone, you may have some room to argue illegal search.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: mycogirl]
    #4590719 - 08/28/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

fucking cops bleh.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: ShroomArtist84] * 1
    #4590756 - 08/28/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

hahaha, get this i saw the name of that post, and i said "who's the fucking dumbass that did that"
then i saw it was my post! haw haw haw


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: dblaney]
    #4590931 - 08/28/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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dblaney18 said:
Actually, I think I remember learning in my law class that you can in fact consent to only a partial search of a moving vehicle. For example, if the officer asks for consent to search, you could technically say, "I consent to a search only around objects beginning with an 'S', like a Steering wheel." Although that would probably really piss the cop off and they would end up searching your whole vehicle, though illegally.

The law is fuzzy around this subject, and frankly, I doubt anyone would want to test it.




Hahaha

It's true, the law is pretty fuzzy about 4th amendment search-and-seizure procedures. Here's a case to read (unrelated but very interesting):
ILLINOIS v. CABALLES
Justice Ginsburg's dissent is quite good. Also note that Caballes was only going 71 miles per hour (6mph over the speed limit) and he got pulled over. Better drive exactly the speed limit when you're carrying drugs!

Pretty scary huh? No reason for suspicion, and yet the cops got away with it.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4591068 - 08/28/05 01:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yes, but with the dog thing, they cannot delay you longer than it would take to write a ticket. i think that caballes v illinois is actually the case that went to the supreme court which made it legal nation wide for these warrentless dog searches.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4591136 - 08/28/05 02:08 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I know for a fact that cops cannot search a locked glove box or trunk if you do not give them permission to. I said a cop could search my car (knowing I had a LOT of shit locked in my glove box) and he didn't find anything. He arrested me for the weed I did have in my coat, and then went through my pockets while I was handcuffed. He took out my keys, and used them to unlock the glove box and take out my shit.

Couldn't press any charges because that was hella illegal.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: Jadian] * 1
    #4591409 - 08/28/05 03:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You should of gunned down those cops with your uzis and high tailed it outta there.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: blink]
    #20046504 - 05/27/14 11:11 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

if you say to to search the trunk doesn't that make it more obvious that you have something in there?


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #20048658 - 05/27/14 07:52 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Here in South Africa, I got pulled over once, after apparently scoping out my dealer and being seen buying some weed.. Cop gets out of his car with a machine gun in his hands pointed straight at me locked and loaded ready to fire, and screams and swears at me to get out of the car, at which point his partner proceeds to search my car before I even have a chance to say a word. They find the weed, put handcuffs on me, put me into the back of the cop car and take me to the station.

I was out about an hour later after paying a bribe.

I wish I was given the choice to consent to the search haha. I hate my country sometimes.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: MaxPower23]
    #20049011 - 05/27/14 09:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Here in South Africa, I got pulled over once, after apparently scoping out my dealer and being seen buying some weed.. Cop gets out of his car with a machine gun in his hands pointed straight at me locked and loaded ready to fire, and screams and swears at me to get out of the car, at which point his partner proceeds to search my car before I even have a chance to say a word. They find the weed, put handcuffs on me, put me into the back of the cop car and take me to the station.

I was out about an hour later after paying a bribe.

I wish I was given the choice to consent to the search haha. I hate my country sometimes.





where was this and how much were you buying?


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: MaxPower23]
    #20049014 - 05/27/14 09:28 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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MaxPower23 said:
Here in South Africa, I got pulled over once, after apparently scoping out my dealer and being seen buying some weed.. Cop gets out of his car with a machine gun in his hands pointed straight at me locked and loaded ready to fire, and screams and swears at me to get out of the car, at which point his partner proceeds to search my car before I even have a chance to say a word. They find the weed, put handcuffs on me, put me into the back of the cop car and take me to the station.

I was out about an hour later after paying a bribe.

I wish I was given the choice to consent to the search haha. I hate my country sometimes.



What the fuck that's fucked up as fuck


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: Sheekle]
    #20049042 - 05/27/14 09:35 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
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MaxPower23 said:
Here in South Africa, I got pulled over once, after apparently scoping out my dealer and being seen buying some weed.. Cop gets out of his car with a machine gun in his hands pointed straight at me locked and loaded ready to fire, and screams and swears at me to get out of the car, at which point his partner proceeds to search my car before I even have a chance to say a word. They find the weed, put handcuffs on me, put me into the back of the cop car and take me to the station.

I was out about an hour later after paying a bribe.

I wish I was given the choice to consent to the search haha. I hate my country sometimes.



What the fuck that's fucked up as fuck




it's africa. gets much worse.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( *DELETED* [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #20049051 - 05/27/14 09:37 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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if you say to to search the trunk doesn't that make it more obvious that you have something in there?




This thread is almost as old as that girl you tried to hook up with.


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Re: i consented to a search of my car last night :( [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #20049082 - 05/27/14 09:45 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I was going to say 'how the fuck is op a mod when he must be underage. and then i noticed the date.:elmo:

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JahLambsbread said:
if you say to to search the trunk doesn't that make it more obvious that you have something in there?




This thread is almost as old as that girl you tried to hook up with.




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