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Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven.
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Led Zeppelin is Officially Getting Sued Over ‘Stairway to Heaven’

"Stairway to Heaven" has a staple of rock radio for decades, and still gets regular airplay here at WZLX and all over the world. It's arguably the biggest rock song in history. But now, just before the song gets a new reissue, the band that for years has accused Led Zeppelin of stealing part of the song from them is finally lawyering up.

A detailed new report from Businessweek says the now-defunct California-based band Spirit is working with a team of lawyers to build a case against Led Zeppelin and take them to court over ‘Stairway', saying it ripped its iconic opening riff from a song they wrote back in 1968 called "Taurus".

Spirit toured with Led Zeppelin as the opener in 1968, when the latter band were making their American debut. They argue that the tour is the time Jimmy Page heard a riff from their song "Taurus", and re-worked it into the opening notes for ‘Stairway'.

As you will hear at 0:44, Spirit may have a strong case for copyright infringement:



The original writer of the song, Randy Wolfe (better known as Randy California) passed away in 1997, but a trust that handles his royalties are working with Spirit's founding bassist Mark Andes to build the case. Besides the obvious financial compensation, the band's goal is to get California the writing credit for ‘Stairway' that they feel he rightfully deserves.

This would not be an unprecedented case. Led Zeppelin has gone to court - and reached settlements - over other songs in their back catalogue. The Businessweek report has a handy chart with the notable cases, but here's a quick rundown:

In the early '70s, the publisher for Chester "Howlin' Wolf" Burnett reached a settlement over "The Lemon Song", citing the guitar riff and lyrics as too similar. In the mid-'80s, folk singer Anne Bredon reached a settlement for royalties and a writing credit for "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You", a song of the same title she wrote in 1960 and Led Zeppelin essentially covered, with elements of their hard rock sound added. In 1987, Willie Dixon settled with a writing credit for "Whole Lotta Love", which contained a similar melody to a song he wrote for Muddy Waters called "You Need Love". In 2012, songwriter Jake Holmes settled over "Dazed and Confused", which had the same title and distinctly similar bassline to a song Holmes wrote in 1967. In other words, this is nothing new for Led Zeppelin. They've been accused of - and apparently caught in the act - ripping off other bands' material for decades. But ardent Zeppelin supporters might point to the "All music is derivative" argument. There is only so much one can do with the notes, beats, and sounds given by music, and even if it's completely unintentional a song could sound similar to something already written.

But in this case, the similarities and the bands' past working relationship may prove too strong a case for Zeppelin to overcome. Both sides will employ musicologists to dissect the riffs in each song to help determine whether ‘Stairway' is too similar to "Taurus" not to give a partial writing credit to California.

If they eventually go to court and settle, Led Zeppelin probably won't be hurt much by it, financially or otherwise. But arguably the most iconic song in rock and roll would officially be tainted. It would no longer be solely a creation of Led Zeppelin. It would be branded with the mark of another artist.

Led Zeppelin took sounds from artists that came before them, blended them into their own uniquely heavy style, and simply did these styles better than most or all bands of their time. But at times they've been caught speeding. The ‘Stairway' case might be just the latest example of that.






Source: http://www.led-zeppelin.org/current-news/1594-led-zeppelin-is-officially-getting-sued-over-stairway-to-heaven

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Do you think the band really has a legitimate lawsuit case here?


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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the zep did it the way they did. i looked up that spirit band they look like gronks
they would've never made it as far as zep did with just that riff.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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Those guys trying to sue are bottom feeders, they're angry they weren't as successful so they want a piece of the pie.  People are influenced by other people, but I think it's obvious after a while if someone is legit or just copying other people.  You can sense the integrity.

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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Jufin] * 7
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Led Zepplin is good band but not as god as all the fame they get imo :shrug:


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
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yeah they deserve royalties but i mean if the lead guy just died it seems like he didn't give a shit and the people left are scrounging for cash off his legacy lol

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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Konyap] * 2
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Zappa did a far better version of Stairway to Heaven.  And also I Am The Walrus.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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Good artists borrow; Great artists steal.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/


Zep were the greatest thieves in rock'n'roll history but Spirit needs more than a reminiscent descending baseline chord progression to get their hooks into Srairway money.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: innerspeaker1967] * 1
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innerspeaker1967 said:
the zep did it the way they did. i looked up that spirit band they look like gronks
they would've never made it as far as zep did with just that riff.



Well you talk like a kroog.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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What a douche.

Led zeppelin could steal my ass cherry and I wouldn't complain.

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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: KremrBigSikter]
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?>wait what

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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Konyap]
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this shit is lame, zeppelin FTW


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Legend] * 4
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LZ has a long history of stealing songs & trying to market them as their own.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said:
LZ has a long history of stealing songs & trying to market them as their own.



True.

Except the statute of limitations is 3 years, the only way they could have a case is if they waited for the rerelease of the song.

Either way I doubt there will be anything for LZ to worry about after all this time.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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I don't think it's really all that similar.

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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: psi]
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psi said:
I don't think it's really all that similar.



I slightly noticed it.. but not the the point where i'd be convinced that they deserve a piece of the pie. lol


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense]
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Their first album or two was all old blues songs that they took complete credit for. After some lawsuits they began reprints that gave credit to the actual writers.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Psychsense] * 1
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:rofl: There is no way that band will get a cent.  That riff @44 seconds barely has the same rythm much less sound the same; its not even in the same key.

As far as Led Zeppelin "stealing" music.  Music is one big clusterfuck of people taking ideas from others music.  Look at it this way; you will never find a new guitar chord or write a new melody;  I promise some assshole has played it before, he probably practiced more and does it better too.  Look at the Kinks; Jimmy Page was their studio guitar player and most of the awesome riffs that made the kinks famous were Jimmy Page licks.  The song Lola comes to mind. Music isn't about making new notes, but taking existing ones and using them to express yourself.

So good luck to the band OP posted, because I know Zep is going to lawyer up.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: innerspeaker1967]
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innerspeaker1967 said:
the zep did it the way they did. i looked up that spirit band they look like gronks
they would've never made it as far as zep did with just that riff.



Spirit made one of the greatest albums of all time



This is on my top ten list.  Nothing by Zeppelin is.  They just didn't last.  I have no idea why.

Edited to change link.  Original link had commercials in the middle of the fucking album.  Assholes


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
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The issue with the blues songs was that they gave no credit whatsoever & claimed them to be originals. Which is why they lost those lawsuits. Nothing wrong with taking old songs & turning them into something new, but credit due is credit due. That said, I love Led Zep, but they definitely stole other people's music & marketed it as their own early on in their career.


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Re: Led Zeppelin getting sued for Stairway To Heaven. [Re: Dark_Star]
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Weird, i never listen to this song and i just so happened to listen to it last night. Then this thread pops up :lol:


But for real fuck those guys suing them. They are mad because they are untalented unsuccessful fuckers

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