JoieDeVivre said:

The ignorance of nutritional science? Go study what your body uses carbs, proteins, vitamins and fats for on a cellular level and tell me again who is ignorant.

A plant based diet can be fine but you have to be really mindful and careful that you're still adequately treating your body. It's ignorant to think you can just switch to all plants and not supplement the things your body needs that most plants don't have.

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sanchothestoner said:

I've been on a plant based diet for more than a year now, and I feel the best I ever have in my life.  Everything the OP is saying is true.  I barely eat, and a good 75% of my diet are plants.  The amount of energy I have is ridiculous.  I've had weekends where I bike like 80 miles or more, and I barely feel worn out.  I don't even do any sort of training.  Just yoga. 

Keep doing your thang, OP.  Don't listen to the ignorance

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Prisoner#1 said:

sanchothestoner said:

I've been on a plant based diet for more than a year now, and I feel the best I ever have in my life.  Everything the OP is saying is true.  I barely eat, and a good 75% of my diet are plants.  The amount of energy I have is ridiculous.  I've had weekends where I bike like 80 miles or more, and I barely feel worn out.  I don't even do any sort of training.  Just yoga. 

Keep doing your thang, OP.  Don't listen to the ignorance

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there's a lot more to being healthy than how you feel

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sanchothestoner said:

JoieDeVivre said:

The ignorance of nutritional science? Go study what your body uses carbs, proteins, vitamins and fats for on a cellular level and tell me again who is ignorant.

A plant based diet can be fine but you have to be really mindful and careful that you're still adequately treating your body. It's ignorant to think you can just switch to all plants and not supplement the things your body needs that most plants don't have.

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So why am I doing fine? I have a TERRIBLE diet, but I make sure I eat almost all plants.

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JoieDeVivre said:

There's no general blood test that says "you're healthy," many deficiencies aren't immediately apparent through a blood test, and many deficiencies aren't tested for because they are rare. Maybe you're actually eating plants that have protein, because if you work hard enough you can just eat plants and get everything you need but you really have to plan it out.

sanchothestoner said:

JoieDeVivre said:

The ignorance of nutritional science? Go study what your body uses carbs, proteins, vitamins and fats for on a cellular level and tell me again who is ignorant.

A plant based diet can be fine but you have to be really mindful and careful that you're still adequately treating your body. It's ignorant to think you can just switch to all plants and not supplement the things your body needs that most plants don't have.

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So why am I doing fine? I have a TERRIBLE diet, but I make sure I eat almost all plants.

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Why would you only eat plants at the expense of having a terrible diet? Just so you can be able to say you only eat plants? Do you even understand that humans have evolved to need protein and meats? Do you understand that eating just plants doesn't matter because they're still living, breathing (yes, plants respire), organisms?

How long have you been eating this way? You're not going to feel terrible as your body starts eating itself because you're starving it, but the effects will slowly become noticeable. Someone who eats nothing but McDonalds is probably going to claim they feel fine for a while too.

I repeat: you cannot live without protein consumption because of how essential proteins are in all cellular communication, gene regulation and expression, etc. If you don't get the recommended proteins your body first starts breaking down the amino acids that it's not using in order to synthesize the proteins you aren't eating but it comes to a point where your body simply cannot keep doing this without you adding fuel.

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sanchothestoner said:

Prisoner#1 said:

sanchothestoner said:

I've been on a plant based diet for more than a year now, and I feel the best I ever have in my life.  Everything the OP is saying is true.  I barely eat, and a good 75% of my diet are plants.  The amount of energy I have is ridiculous.  I've had weekends where I bike like 80 miles or more, and I barely feel worn out.  I don't even do any sort of training.  Just yoga. 

Keep doing your thang, OP.  Don't listen to the ignorance

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there's a lot more to being healthy than how you feel

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I know.  My mom thought I was getting unhealthy because of my diet.  We go to the doctor, they take out some blood to test, and turns out I'm healthy.

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sanchothestoner said:

I have a terrible diet because I don't eat if I'm not hungry.  When I'm hungry, I'll eat something.  Most likely fruit, vegetables, or pizza.  I very rarely eat 3 times a day.  I've been eating like this for 14 months on the 1st of April.

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Prisoner#1 said:

sanchothestoner said:

Prisoner#1 said:

sanchothestoner said:

I've been on a plant based diet for more than a year now, and I feel the best I ever have in my life.  Everything the OP is saying is true.  I barely eat, and a good 75% of my diet are plants.  The amount of energy I have is ridiculous.  I've had weekends where I bike like 80 miles or more, and I barely feel worn out.  I don't even do any sort of training.  Just yoga. 

Keep doing your thang, OP.  Don't listen to the ignorance

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there's a lot more to being healthy than how you feel

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I know.  My mom thought I was getting unhealthy because of my diet.  We go to the doctor, they take out some blood to test, and turns out I'm healthy.

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ate almost nothing but meat, seafoods, pork and beef for nearly 20 years, got
physicals every 6 mos for a number of those years, still get one once a year,
complete bloodwork included, one year I'm a little low on calcium, this year
I'm a little high on blood sugar (had something to eat because I forgot about
the appointment) so I think the results were slightly skewed

the only veggies I ate were what came on my burger when I got one


is a pickle a fruit or a vegetable?

clearly my diet is very healthy if you base it on bloodwork

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sanchothestoner said:

You should have ate the Elk in your avatar, you would be way ahead of the game. Plus Elk is freaking delicious .

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I'd feel bad eating my spirit animal.

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