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Trip Report: Salvia
    #1973176 - 10/02/03 04:48 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I had bought some salvia online and got the 5x extract free. I smoked some of the other leaves over the past month, they did nothing. They sat in my desk drawer abandoned. Being out of weed, I was looking mournfully at my pipe when I saw the free bag of extract. Having smoked it (that very extract) too, to no effect, I PACKED a bowl of it. 5 or so hits, inhaled deeply, held for a few seocnds each time. Halfway through I started feeling the come-on for a marijuana high. I came over to the computer, and was blown away. All of the sensory effects of being very very high, but with much less sluggishness and mental slowdown. I felt INCREDIBLY good, complete euphoria. After about ten minutes, although I lost track of time, I came down most of the way. Right now, I feel just a minor buzz, somewhere between alcohol-like and marijuana.

Two thoughts that should NEVER run through the head of an entheogen user:

1) This isn't doing anything yet. I'll take some more.
2) This probably won't do anything.

I violated number two. No matter what you think you know about effects, treat every new dose as if it's loaded. I'm lucky in that respect. My HWBR experience, to be posted momentarily, was also quite positive despite me being dumb..

I highly reccommend it. Watch the dosage, though. I've heard people's response to this stuff really varies.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1973923 - 10/02/03 09:05 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

You aren't smoking it right. There is some kind of time limit to ingest the amount you want to ingest after you start. You really need to look this up.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: SixCee]
    #1973946 - 10/02/03 09:13 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)


Um, it worked just fine?


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1973969 - 10/02/03 09:21 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Still seems strange reguardless that it would take that long to kick in. Before i can even finish a second hit usually ive completely lost touch with reality but that is on 10x, but still its not that much more.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: d33p]
    #1974200 - 10/02/03 10:42 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

you need to torch the salvia and hold it in for 30 seconds to get full effects


you just wasted good salvia and someone should seriously slap you


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: deltron]
    #1974507 - 10/03/03 12:09 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Hey, never fear. I'm doing an acetone extraction of another 3/5oz.

I'll smoke the rest of it right this time.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1974986 - 10/03/03 04:32 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

"you need to torch the salvia and hold it in for 30 seconds to get full effects
you just wasted good salvia and someone should seriously slap you"

Wanker. So a full 30 seconds, hey, your in the know bigman, wha?!?
Twat. Its a leaf, you put it in the pipe and you smoke it. No big deal, no mystery.



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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1975071 - 10/03/03 05:27 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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Kid_Orgo said:
I came over to the computer, and was blown away. All of the sensory effects of being very very high, but with much less sluggishness and mental slowdown. I felt INCREDIBLY good, complete euphoria.




That doesn't sound like a breakthrough yet. You would be shooting through different universes, dimensions or something weird after a breakthrough experience. There usually is no rational thought whatsoever when in a full blown Salvia trip.
It does sound like a cool trip. Maybe you should get some 10X extract, and try to smoke a sufficient amount in one hit (Out of a bong). Have fun.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1975123 - 10/03/03 06:18 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah, you should not have been able to move around if you had truely broken through. Its a whole Phycedelic Coma Trip(tm) where your mind breaks free from its moore ropes and floats. Your almost paraylsed for awhile.
I've came to with my head on a table, spread out on the floor and tumbled from my seat while in the throws of a Salvia trip, bein' able to operate a computer sounds a little to complicated to me.

It is strange though that some people, me included, have such a low tolerance to this smoke.
CyberBeast, your from the Netherlands, have you ever purchased the loose leaf from a Smart Shop? Six grams for 10 Euros, fantastic deal. I use it to roll fat Salvia joints, or blunts rather, and break through continiously while smokin'. I admit that i gotta' smoke more than the extract but i do break through. Whereas friends that i've tried to trip out with the leaf get no more than a slight buzz.
Strange, all very, very strange.

SummerBreeze*regrettin' last nights codiene binge and not makin' much sense today at all*


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: SummerBreeze]
    #1975377 - 10/03/03 09:19 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

"Two thoughts that should NEVER run through the head of an entheogen user:

1) This isn't doing anything yet. I'll take some more.
2) This probably won't do anything."


Sound like a good advice. I violated nr. 2 as well while my first encounter with salvia leafs. I also didn`t break through, but half of my body, including mouth and tongue, have rolled to the left side, it was quite unpleasnt and unexpected.

But still, much better than my friend, who knew pretty much nothing bout Lady, and after a while he was crawling on his back on the floor, backwards, and was like "I DON`T understand!?" He have completly forgotten he have just smoked salvia and felt fucking wired. I told him: we`v just smoked salvia! and he was like "oh, yes... :/"


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1975963 - 10/03/03 01:18 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

man, my buddy just tossed, in front of our RA. Who's cool, of course, but doesn't like having this shit dropped in his lap.

Dammit, am I the only one who knows his limits????


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: SummerBreeze]
    #1975994 - 10/03/03 01:26 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

You're not necessarily paralysed while in a breakthrough experience. But you are unaware of your body. I've read trip report about someone who had a breakthrough, and when he came to, he realised that he had trashed his room and dislocated his shoulder. This is a very extreme example. But on strong trips some people do move around without knowing it. That's why you should have a sitter.

I think I have a slightly above avarage tolerance for Salvia. I haven't tried leaf, but I don't think it would work.
I do smoke Salvia joints with extract in them (0,35g 10X, the rest weed). It isn't a very efficient way to smoke, because the temp isn't high enough for all the Salvinorin A to release. But it does produce a strange synergistic effect that's unlike being stoned and unlike smoking Salvia pure. It's a very psychedelic and heavy stone, with nice CEV, sometimes slight OEV and a pleasant bodyload.
It doesn't work if you smoke it like a normal joint. You have to take big hits and hold them long. We usually do it with two or three people and pass the joint after each toke. Then holding our breath until we get the joint again (Also a very efficient way of smoking weed). Holding a lighter to the tip of the joint while you toke, also helps.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: SummerBreeze]
    #1977634 - 10/03/03 11:51 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

SummerBreeze said:
Wanker. So a full 30 seconds, hey, your in the know bigman, wha?!?
Twat. Its a leaf, you put it in the pipe and you smoke it. No big deal, no mystery.





This isn't really true. If it was, you could smoke salvia like you could smoke tobacco, and get proper results.

The way that's gotten me the best results is to pack about half a bowl in my bong of 5x or so, and have another bowl's worth right there. I do the whole bowl in one huge hit, burning it with my lighter the entire time -- when the ashes glow an incandescent white, it's done -- I pack in the the other bowl, exhale, inhale, and do the rest the same way.

It really helps if you can do the whole load in one long, slow hit.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1978197 - 10/04/03 03:28 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I've watched a few people try the Lady the wrong way and end up wasting it. Salvia isn't like weed. You can't "light" it and just suck on the bong. It won't work that way.

Salvia can be smoked with an ordinary lighter, but a torch lighter is by far a better choice. Once you put the flame on the bowl, you have to keep it there the whole time you inhale, then you hold it in for at least 20 seconds or more. I would be very surprised if anyone can manage a third hit of 10x when smoked correctly. Very surprised.

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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #1995559 - 10/10/03 12:37 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

I don't understand why everyone is using extracts, especially on their first salvia trip. Read these trip reports from Erowid. All of these people smoked plain dry-leaf and broke through only needing a couple big hits.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=5447

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2671

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=7289

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=3853


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: chodamunky]
    #1995753 - 10/10/03 01:52 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Tolerance to salvia varies widely. I smoked leaf, did nothing.



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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: SummerBreeze]
    #1997814 - 10/10/03 05:21 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

yo how much misinformation are you gonna drop in one thread?

dont smoke salvia in your pipe or in your joint... smoke it in your bong


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Jdawg2013]
    #1997952 - 10/10/03 06:06 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

> dont smoke salvia in your pipe or in your joint...

I have only smoked salvia from a bowl (pipe) and have broken through every single time. I wouldn't call that misinformation... now the commend about smoking salvia in a joint is a different matter... I don't see how that would possibly work, but I have never tried it, so I donno.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1998608 - 10/10/03 10:19 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

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You're not necessarily paralysed while in a breakthrough experience. But you are unaware of your body. I've read trip report about someone who had a breakthrough, and when he came to, he realised that he had trashed his room and dislocated his shoulder. This is a very extreme example. But on strong trips some people do move around without knowing it. That's why you should have a sitter.




The strangest thing ive done is gotten up walked outside and went up and down in the dorm halls and then when i went back in my room i had thrown in the trash a t-shirt, 3 lighters and a vial, all without my knowledge. My roommate who was around but decided not to interrupt me at any point just said i had this strange blank look on my face like i wasent there. All i remembered were lots of raincoats, floating universes the size of basketballs, those aliens from the simpsons, and a conveyer belt i was traveling on.

It was one of my more interesting experiences with lady salvia.


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Re: Trip Report: Salvia [Re: Seuss]
    #2002004 - 10/12/03 08:34 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

I've smoked these joints multiple times, sometimes they work better than others, but it does work. Just make sure you have real 10X extract.


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