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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: peace of mind 1]
    #19587150 - 02/18/14 10:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sorry guys I just fail to believe your mind could come back from something like that. I took a lot of hallucinogens in highschool and am still working things out. Not that it wasn't positive, but there were some negatives that came with it because of my overindulgence. Even I didn't come close to what some of these claims are. Not even close.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19587154 - 02/18/14 10:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Chinacat72 is the only person I'll ever believe actually did it . He just lived that deadhead life and was pretty straight fowardwith the posts. It's possible he did it but :shrug:


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19587158 - 02/18/14 10:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
Chinacat72 is the only person I'll ever believe actually did it . He just lived that deadhead life and was pretty straight fowardwith the posts. It's possible he did it but :shrug:



whiterasta too. 

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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: memes]
    #19587173 - 02/18/14 10:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

maybe it is possible. MAYBE but I am still skeptical.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19587176 - 02/18/14 10:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm sorry guys I just fail to believe your mind could come back from something like that. I took a lot of hallucinogens in highschool and am still working things out. Not that it wasn't positive, but there were some negatives that came with it because of my overindulgence. Even I didn't come close to what some of these claims are. Not even close.



Nobody is saying your mind comes back from it; and if you've read any of china cat's posts, he says you're never the same again.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19587183 - 02/18/14 10:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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mindgnome said:
maybe it is possible. MAYBE but I am still skeptical.



does it serve a purpose?


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: memes] * 1
    #19587188 - 02/18/14 10:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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memes said:
Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
Chinacat72 is the only person I'll ever believe actually did it . He just lived that deadhead life and was pretty straight fowardwith the posts. It's possible he did it but :shrug:



whiterasta too. 

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Damn I missed that, yeah I believe him too, only certain people can get into that level of detail


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: berdinwall] * 1
    #19587196 - 02/18/14 10:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Gnome youre just wrong...its a widely known initiation technique. Get over it




This heard this several times


Dead family, lsd circles

Thumb print initiation.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: theRAPeutic] * 1
    #19587205 - 02/18/14 10:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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mindgnome said:
I'm sorry guys I just fail to believe your mind could come back from something like that. I took a lot of hallucinogens in highschool and am still working things out. Not that it wasn't positive, but there were some negatives that came with it because of my overindulgence. Even I didn't come close to what some of these claims are. Not even close.



Nobody is saying your mind comes back from it; and if you've read any of china cat's posts, he says you're never the same again.



This.  Chinacat72 says in his posts in that thread that there times every single day that he feels like he's tripping.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19587226 - 02/18/14 10:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i remember hearing something similar about the stories being all a hoax, but i wouldn;t know.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #19587242 - 02/18/14 10:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Can't remember which one but one of the members of the grateful dead's kids found a vial of crystal  backstage during a show.  Thought it was coke and snorted it.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: Kief Ledger] * 1
    #19587245 - 02/18/14 10:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Can't remember which one but one of the members of the grateful dead's kids found a vial of crystal  backstage during a show.  Thought it was coke and snorted it.




think it was mickey's.  the vial was labeled "C' and they thought it meant 'coke'.  lol definitely stood for crystal!



can you imagine snorting a fat line of crystal and then being like OH SHIT


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: memes] * 2
    #19587267 - 02/18/14 10:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The whole my buddy did a strip and is fried... :facepalm:
My buddy ate $175 worth of acid, (which at the time was 150 hits of the Learys from 99-00..very good LSD (and yes it was really that cheap then)  ), I ate a meal he prepared 3 days later and as a matter of fact just crashed at his house two weekends ago. He's totally fine. He was a little tweaked for like 4 or 5 days, but maintained.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19587279 - 02/18/14 11:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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No one seems to think it is ironic that the only place they have ever heard of this is from china cat. I read a lot of articles and even have read books on lsd and have had experience with it first hand. If it was a liquid, that means that the lsd was highly diluted before hand.




I have seen people lay sheets with crystal and lick up the mess. Easily several hundred hits. High dosage reports arent that rare. Even Pickard admits to accidentally exposing himself to very large amounts of lsd


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 2
    #19587313 - 02/18/14 11:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty sure this is legit.

And from what I've read, taking huge amounts of LSD will only get you so high. and then after that, more LSD just makes the trip longer, instead of more intense.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #19587624 - 02/19/14 12:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah....I haven't heard that, but I could see that being true. There is a story of Dennis McKenna being in the Amazon and eating so much psilocybin he had a psychotic break for a couple of weeks or something. I have yet to read the book it was described in. I couldn't even imagine what hundreds of hits of acid would be like. If I eat two I feel like it is almost to the breaking point. I think maybe I must just be more susceptible to that state of mind. I have always had a wild imagination and maybe that has something to do with it. Mushrooms don't make me feel crazy like that though, they definitely make my mind feel open in a literal sense.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 2
    #19587645 - 02/19/14 12:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

There's an official medical report wherein multiple people accidentally ingested hundreds of thousands of micrograms, maybe more (serum/gastric levels are indicated). The individuals were soon released from the hospital and a follow-up was done later on and some of them said they continued to use LSD. So, this this thread is now officially over. :smile:

The full report is available for free.


Coma, Hyperthermia and Bleeding Associated with Massive LSD Overdose: A Report of Eight Cases. John C. Klock, MD, Udo Boerner, MS, and Charles E. Becker, MD. West J Med. 1974 March; 120(3): 183–188.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: Da2ra] * 1
    #19587665 - 02/19/14 12:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:

I love how you always cite sources.


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19587666 - 02/19/14 12:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I have dosed 70+ hits of silver in a single dose, my mind is fine.
I know people who have done thumbprints, they are fine.

Psilocybin is not Lysergic Acid Diethylamide.

Just because you refuse to believe it does not mean it does not exist.

The CIA even experimented with bathing people in LSD to try and make supersoldiers. They went crazy. Because they were in a laboratory being probed by scientists and CIA.. being bathed in LSD.. you'd go crazy too. Set and setting.

LSD does not damage your DNA or whatever it is you think

Also a thumbprint is more like 1000 hits


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Re: I feel thumbprinting is a completely hoax. [Re: Da2ra]
    #19587677 - 02/19/14 12:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not quite. One of the DEA agents that was involved with the Picard(sp?) lsd lab actually ingested hundreds of thousands of hits. He shaved his neck before handling all of the lsd and the lsd went through his freshly opened pores. He had ingested some ridiculous quantity of lsd. He was rushed to the hospital and started having seizures and convulsions. He actually did recover quite well but he cannot read because it impaired his focus so much. It was part of a video I watched. Sorry for no source I can't seem to find it. So while you say that it didn't harm people, that is sort of relative. It might not have killed them, but it permanently effected their brain function, I guarantee that. Also my aunt who was a doctor in the 70's saw a lot of people go crazy from doing too much. I am not trying to sound like a anti-psychedelics person, because I am definitely not, but acid is definitely the riskiest traditional psychedelic you can ingest. Research psychedelics are worse though because the ld50 is so much lower on rc's.


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