intelligentlife said:

I like to grow peyote and keep them possible dehydrated even growth season over month, sometimes I keep them at spring in very small amount of water without good drinks at all.. Slow and steady.. Best answer to grow peyote, hold watering and hard grown from seedling to mature. Long dry periods, as long as they seems to bury themselves to soil, then after watering the plump up and be fine..

Actually, cause of my climate and cold temperatures, I have seen that peyote without heat pads, even old plants doesn't grow as they should (natural way) ...I realize actually when I was think cause people use to desert reptiles heating pads to imitate temperature for them to let them be on heat. In my climate heat is very hard to get so my plan was to move my lophs and ariocarpus to clay pots, then put heating pads under them. I noticed ariocarpus has started to take more natural look. Also keeping them on day time hot and night time cool, makes indoor cultivation nice.. However, even I can do with this tek watering more often, still I let peyote to go dehydrate to get their appearance to very nice. Also I have artificial blue-white metal halide light above windowsill, trichos will give shade from sun light.. Soon there is no sunlight.. But my "secret" is starting to be heating pads for adult peyote too cause in my climate, without them I have just fucked up with them with watering, with heating pads and bottom watering seems it works. I never water peyote from above, except seedlings I will give spray of water on top.

And my special is local rain water or water from well, from the depths of earth, there is few houses where water comes from the earth, not form any purification plants.
the water is full of minerals, pure water feed cacti if it's from the depths of earth, no chemicals in there, only minerals dissolved from the depths of earth.. Crystal clear water, can be drink without fear of toxins, I live so far away at region that there is very little pollution and so on.. I cannot get trichos as nice as someone, peyote, ariocarpus and few slow growers likes to be there, especially now when I get heating pads on during summer.. No matter how hot there is and so on, heating pads give heat at summer, at winter they are on cool room temperature without water...

Winter I keep them in room temperature. Cause outdoors can be -40C in worst care, indoors are naturally colder than summer so I control artificially environment to peyote plants. Also I like hard grown ones.. Even heat pads allows watering two times in week but they are after that just like water balloons.. Before watering I make sure peyote is soft when touched, thirsty and dry..

These are kind young to see good what they are.. If you are good with pereskiopsis grafts, go on and graft it and degraft later if you want it to grow on it's own roots?

I have heard from nursery I know that about 1 to 2 from 1000 seedlings are crested and very weak to grow and usually dies cause need to care of another seedlings..

however, if you don't want to kill it and be sure it's crest, go on and graft and hope it works.. Crest lophs needs to grow very hard grown way.. They are indeed fragile as they can be.. Little water..

If you'r positive you have there crest, then... go and graft but hope you don't fail grafting.. You can always root the grafted button back and years later you cannot even see it has been rooted button.

If you want my opinion to "save" the seedlings, go for grafting and see what it's going to be.. Or go as the rules as you keep crest seedling alive, by that way you need to reduce watering, and be very careful with it. Another will be dehydrating but they will go on slowly and I have noticed even one month old seedling can tolerate dry conditions for days.

But.. if you are good with grafting, know that it will succees without fail, graft it and after it has grown nice then degraft.. I don't know how good degrafting works, it can kill the button.. But you can leave some piece of pereskiopsis there, and let pereskiopsis and actual scion grow own roots..  I have seen this tek with cacti, graft is first done, then it has been cut by the way that stock is buried to ground and scion is at soil surface so actual plant forms roots from scion and from graft stock underground..

I don't know what to say.. if you really want to save the seedling, hold watering, do not kill it with watering even another seedlings looks dehydrated, they will survive, after few months you can took spoon and transplant it to own pot and grow crest seedlings there.. But I have heard that they are not going to be easy to grow, very very rot prone if peyote is crested, that's why that nursery I have talk about crests, guy has said the crests will die cause they cannot too so much water than seedlings in the same tray, never grown crest seedlings but afaik peyote should be done very slow and hard grown way when it's crested.. Can you show pic from top of it, how old these are?

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Nature Boy said:

No, it hasn't flowered yet.  It looks like yours is about five days behind mine.  I'm hoping mine will open over this week-end so I have a front row seat.  The flower will emerge on a short stalk (about 3 - 4 mm) and then it will open.  You will know it when you see it!

I'll get you a pix in a couple of hours that will show you what yo watch for.

Edit:  Here ya go, bro.



And here it is just 6 hours later:



N.B.

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Beautiful, thanks for posting the pictures and insight!

Here are mine today:


Will be around tomorrow evening, all day Monday...then back to 10-12 hour work days...likely going to miss it:(

ferrel_human said:

I have started the process with my texana babies. And my astrophytum caput-medusae babies but thats another thread.

They are more than month old but I start out young on thw windowsill. I will keep these sheltered for longer time because I lose more when I take them outside when they are not ready.

Start by making holes in your dome or air out daily. The accclimate fast, you'd be surprised.

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EvilMushroom666 said:

The flower started to open today, got about a quarter of the way and then started to close:(
Thought for a second that I would get to witness it open all the way, will be working long
hours this week and will likely miss the entire show.

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sorry to hear that man you can't call in sick this week?!?!!