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my epic fall from alpha to epsilon *DELETED* *DELETED*
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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: Dildo Baggins]
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Eat.  Sleep.  Be Happy.


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: dodgem] * 1
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And could shrooms help confront all of this?


Certainly.  But it goes both ways.  Things could get better or it all could get extremely worse.

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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Yeah, In my case it was the use of psychedelics that initially began my segregation from the Alpha status i had held all my life, akin to making me question the company i kept and activities i engaged in , eventually it lead to alot of second guessing and a decline of confidence.


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: Dildo Baggins] * 2
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Fuck social ranking... Fuck domination, fuck submission, and fuck yourself in relation to anyone else.  The only person you have to live with constantly is yourself, and I suspect your deepest isolation is from your 'true' self.  Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
My suggestion is to isolate yourself further... go play wild man in the woods, go on a 'vision quest'.  Find yourself.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: CosmicJoke]
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Only after finding oneself, one can find one's relation to anyone or anything else...


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
Only after finding oneself, one can find one's relation to anyone or anything else...


in bed


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
Only after finding oneself, one can find one's relation to anyone or anything else...


But how are you meant to know when you are fully found ? How to distinguish from a regular belief system that would help you function in every day life?


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: Withinity]
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Withinity said:
BlueCoyote said:
Only after finding oneself, one can find one's relation to anyone or anything else...


But how are you meant to know when you are fully found ? How to distinguish from a regular belief system that would help you function in every day life?


When you stop seeing yourself in terms of being a 'strong alpha' or 'scared unshaven pussy'....  What chakra(s) do you think those ideas might correspond to....


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: CosmicJoke]
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CosmicJoke said:
go on a 'vision quest'.


This advice is underrated. For mine, once you see beyond you pretty much HAVE to go on a vision quest because your ship has sailed and there's no return.


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"They consider me insane but I know that I am a hero living under the eyes of the gods."

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: Dildo Baggins]
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Anxiety is what you make it.

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: LunarEclipse]
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OP. It seems that you have not been able to deal with the fact that you are no longer an alpha. Or as I will put it, it seems that you were an extrovert, that has become introverted, and due to this ego loss, it has caused you mental problems, which of course effect your physical problems.

There are many things in what you could do. You need to claim back your self-esteem, and this does not mean trying to be who you were, as who were is gone, who have to find who you are, and more importantly who you want to be.

I would say that it may be good for you, to find something to be focused on, something where you can gain knowledge, a passion for a subject. You need to reflect on your own being, as it is out of harmony. I would say that of many things which you can do here is a few. : Excercise, dietatry change, meditation, yoga, a new hobby, reading good books, watching good films, changing your perception of yourself and of those around you, growing plants, learning, meeting other people at meet ups for a certain hobby i.e people who have a community garden. Volunteer, be compassionate towards yourself and others, and lots of other things, but it mainly starts from within, from the crux of your being. You are in need of transformation, and this could come through the use of psychedlics.

But I would reiterate what fishoil said, taking mushrooms can go both ways, so you need to do some preparation. You need a strong mind, and you need to be sure of yourself, and your surroundings. First you need to do research, reading about other peoples experiences, and then when you understand what you are dealing with, and respect it for the power which it has, you can then start thinking about taking it, which then means you need to decide where and in what setting. And this is difficult for me to give full advice, but I would say, hypothetically, you should have a place which you can set up specifically for a trip, i.e plants, pictures or patterns which are pleasant etc, Also I would recommend music.  Also without mushrooms, music is vital. And so on and so forth, I will not go to deep into the ideal trip setting, as it is superfluous, unless you ask for advice.

But back to the crux of the biscuit, I think you have to start believing in yourself again, and to do this, you need to gain new skills, learn new things, have a passion.

I will not go on too much as I know I can rabble on, but if you want to pm me I can go into more detail.

As for now, I don't know what type of music you listen to but I recommend these :  Sun Ra, Sounds of Siam, Beethoven, miles davis, john coltrane, charlie mingus, tchaikovsky, philip glass, los cojolites.

Anyway my friend, you can transform your health, with the help of others, but it shall come mainly from yourself.

Good luck, and I wish you positive waves.

P.s These things may be of help/interest to you, Idk, just a nudge. Taoism, William Reich, Bo yin Ra, St John Worts, Terence mckenna, Alan watts, Krishnamurti, Eckhart tolle, Jordan belson and John whitney.

Edited by oropal (09/16/13 12:31 PM)

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: oropal]
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You probably never were alpha, more than likely, your self-delusions have just been shattered by a combination of psychedelic reflection and growing up. For instance, you claim you were "increasingly good with chicks" but didn't ever get a girlfriend or even have any meaningful sexual experiences. :shrug:


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: NetDiver]
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Samurai, no offense, but your self delusion that you have contributed meaningfully to this thread has just been shattered by me.

Note: Op gives no info on psychedelic reflection, nevermind psychedelic experience. And as for the chick statement, he describes the turn of events which makes your comment useless.


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: oropal]
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oropal said:
Samurai, no offense, but your self delusion that you have contributed meaningfully to this thread has just been shattered by me.

Note: Op gives no info on psychedelic reflection, nevermind psychedelic experience. And as for the chick statement, he describes the turn of events which makes your comment useless.


Yeah it seemed a bit of a delusional response to a physical and mental health and well being post.  And the word "chick" really limits the respondents.  Hint hint.

And think of useless comments.  Hint hint.



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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
Yeah it seemed a bit of a delusional response to a physical and mental health and well being post.  And the word "chick" really limits the respondents.  Hint hint.


I was just quoting the OP, I myself do not call women "chicks" nor do I approve of objectifying them. And I'm merely trying to provide a counterpoint, which I think is semi reasonable as the OP seemed at first to be oozing self-importance, before his self-analysis became more realistic.

Many people reach a point in their lives when they realize the self-centered view they had of the world was incorrect and immature. The only ones who don't reach that point, in fact, are those who remain self-centered for life. IMO it's a positive personal growth, as soon as you get over the disappointment of not being the sun around which the world revolves. The thread should be titled "the ego's epic fall from alpha to epsilon."

My postulation that, in the OP's case, this was due partially to psychedelics was just a guess based on the fact that we're on a mushroom-related message board. :shrug:

But, I guess I should keep my opinion to myself and hop onto the "believe in yourself" circle-jerk. As if no depressed person has ever heard that a thousand times before.


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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: NetDiver]
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Samurai Drifter said:
LunarEclipse said:
Yeah it seemed a bit of a delusional response to a physical and mental health and well being post.  And the word "chick" really limits the respondents.  Hint hint.


I was just quoting the OP, I myself do not call women "chicks" nor do I approve of objectifying them. And I'm merely trying to provide a counterpoint, which I think is semi reasonable as the OP seemed at first to be oozing self-importance, before his self-analysis became more realistic.

Many people reach a point in their lives when they realize the self-centered view they had of the world was incorrect and immature. The only ones who don't reach that point, in fact, are those who remain self-centered for life. IMO it's a positive personal growth, as soon as you get over the disappointment of not being the sun around which the world revolves. The thread should be titled "the ego's epic fall from alpha to epsilon."

My postulation that, in the OP's case, this was due partially to psychedelics was just a guess based on the fact that we're on a mushroom-related message board. :shrug:

But, I guess I should keep my opinion to myself and hop onto the "believe in yourself" circle-jerk. As if no depressed person has ever heard that a thousand times before.


Actually believe in yourself makes more sense than most of the advice given to depressed people on here.  But by definition, if you are depressed that's not gonna be easy.  That and diet I would say most important.  The meditate and exercise, not so much.



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Edited by LunarEclipse (09/17/13 04:10 PM)

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Re: my epic fall from alpha to epsilon [Re: Dildo Baggins]
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Samurai, not so much. You should probably keep your "advice" to yourself next time someone crawling out of the trenches of life reaches out and exposes their shit.

We don't provide pity parties here.:hissyfit: If you don't like hearing what people have to say then don't post here. Everyone is in the trenches and you aren't nothing special. :nicesmile:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (09/18/13 09:11 AM)

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:hwbm:


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