Icelander said:

Yeah, It could well be my pov on this was all constructed by the combination of psychedelics and experience/time.  After over 40 years of tripping you start to notice the real condition our condition is in. You have plenty of time to drop a lot of wishful thinking. It's not that it's all ugly and violent. It's just that a hell of a lot of it is and that violence and struggle seems to be what makes it all happen so damn smoothly.

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Aye. You have to look at all aspects of life to get a clearer picture of the human condition. I feel, I understand a lot more spiritual/philosophical texts now that I have really looked and examined my own shadow, the aspects of myself that I had denied because they were so ugly in everyone else, it was only then that I was able to actually face the ugliness inside of myself and begin to change.

As a kid you grow up in happy fun-land, if your are lucky (this is subjective) that is. Sometimes, we have horrible childhoods, faced with realities of the human condition much earlier in life. One could say this is lucky, but it all depends on the situation. An abusive relationship is very detrimental towards a childs full potential, the suffering caused by an abusive relationship could really damage the child and further the human condition.

Most learn to repress certain parts of themselves to the subconscious/unconscious that are not seen as acceptable to whatever society/culture they find themselves in, imo, and so walk around incomplete..fragmented. A partial pretend way to go about reality...This probably has its purpose though, perhaps to make us appreciate what is real that much better, (such is seen when you become good friends with someone, and with family) and to protect our own inherent 'self' from over-attachment.

  The process of becoming whole again, is the undoing of what you have learned as knowledge (primitive mind games), and uniting yourself as yin and yang, instead of seeing just the yin or just the yang, it helps to see both in both, this leads, imo, to the blooming of ones essence, imo, the process of self-actualization. Once whole, once self-actualized, ones destiny becomes free-willed in a sense..but this requires focus, in my personal experience (I am ADD interested in like everything and trying to take on like a million projects as it turns out I just make a whole lot of slow process, and end up musing on the shroomery. ) to cage the elephant so to speak. 

I am in no way claiming to be completely whole myself, I recognize the fragment , but I feel to be whole we should too look at the whole picture.



YinYang all day.

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Hey man, it's an Intelligent Design. Just ask anyone from Arkansas or Tennessee. You're so negative.

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Uh oh! One of our regulars is from Ten-uh-say and now you will feel her wrath!

Fatherroot said:

This site I signed up for a few weeks ago consistently has posts from the community of the site that really get the brain's gears turning.  This one I found exceptionally interesting.  Obviously racism is wrong, but I didn't realize some of the actual psychological impacts in can have.  One of which being if a group of people treat you as inferior the group being pushed down will perform lower test scores just because they are perceived as inferior, even if they don't believe they are.  Here's the video.  Didn't plan on watching the entire thing but couldn't stop watching it.  The site I got it from is called Highexistence.com, check it out.  Reminds me a lot of shroomery without the main focus being, well, shrooms.

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You can actually simplify what was shown in the video quite a bit. You don't even need to establish anything other than the arbitrary line of "in group" and "out group". The biases will form naturally without ever saying "x group is better" or "y group cannot do...". You don't have to plant those seeds, they plant themselves. Warfare is the natural outcome just from arbitrary lines.

And as far as I can tell there is no way around forming these arbitrary lines. Nearly everything we do in life is a selective process. And we select our "in-group" or what we value. And we select against our "out-group" or what we do not value. Does an in-group or out-group actually exist? Nope. But we operate as though it does down to what we eat for breakfast or the kind of crayon we chose to color with as a kid. And in many cases we become completely convinced that our arbitrary lines are real

Diploid said:

Once an animal is fed and feels safe they relax.  Were it not dog eat dog out there most animals would get along just dandy. But creation seems to have other plans.

Hey man, it's an Intelligent Design. Just ask anyone from Arkansas or Tennessee. You're so negative.

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Ya, Arkansas and Tennessee are so backwards... I don't think there is a single ignoramus in Florida!