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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Not at all..i disagreed that it was deplorable...and i made a comment about hypocrisy...that's it


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
If you're unemployable because of choices you make, so be it.  If you don't like it, you can always make different choices



Fortunately for me it's not a problem here.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: SoreSpore]
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SoreSpore said:
Enlil said:
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Enlil said:
You misquoted me...You should probably fix that unless you don't have a problem with being intellectually dishonest.



I quoted you because I knew you were going to edit it. Don't edit a post, then try and say I misquoted you. That is unprofessional.



Now you're outright lying...i never said that, and i didn't edit it...If i had, it would show as being edited because you quoted me ten minutes after the post.



Calm down Enlil.



I've asked you to do the right thing...and given you time to do the right thing.  At this point, I'm going to have to assume that you don't care about doing the right thing


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Not at all..i disagreed that it was deplorable...and i made a comment about hypocrisy...that's it




Enlil said:
I gotta disagree..i don't see any reason that employers shouldn't be free to hire people based on whatever priorities they might have..as long as it isn't discriminatory toward a protected class.





No you didn't, you clearly "disagreed" with me that employers SHOULDN'T BE FREE to hire people based on specific criteria....you didn't just disagree that it wasn't deplorable.

All the while I clearly stated that I didn't think employers shouldn't be free to do this.


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
It also doesn't happen by breaking the rules in secret, does it?

Don't pretend to be some folk hero bucking the system as a political protest...You just wanna get high.  That's fine and all, but if you want the law changed, there's already a mechanism in place to do that, and it isn't by just ignoring the law.



Note Midnight Toker's location. In Canada, employer drug testing is essentially a non-issue. No need to lobby for new laws, we already have the laws we want here in this regard.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Well, i appreciate you letting me know what i disagree with.


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Came straight from the horse's mouth.  :tongue:


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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So segregation is perfectly fine by that logic...


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
I've asked you to do the right thing...and given you time to do the right thing.  At this point, I'm going to have to assume that you don't care about doing the right thing



Are you going to deny me job over it? Because that is the right thing to do.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: sum_peeps]
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that's a hell of a logical leap


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: sum_peeps]
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sum_peeps said:
So segregation is perfectly fine by that logic...



To be fair, he did make an exception for discrimination against a "protected class."

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Nope.  I'm just not a victim of an unjust and oppressive "system".  I make the choices that i feel are the best for me, and i don't piss and moan when those choices have consequences




So what?  It doesn't mean it isn't unjust to deny a qualified candidate a job for irrelevant, bigoted, reasons- prejudice against a particular class.

I agree it makes more sense to abstain from drugs like marijuana and maybe switch to heroin so you can avoid the drug tests, or just be abstinant, but that doesn't speak to the morality of the action.

That they can does not mean they should, and this pissing on people for voluntary choices seems kind of mean anyways.  Seldom do I meet people who aren't the authors of their own station in life, to a greater or lesser extent.  Kind of besides the point as to how they should be treated.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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What is this, a :piss: match???:wtf: Stay on topic. I think OP got his answer by now:facepalm: . . . :peace:


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: johnm214]
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Mean or not, i may not like being around golfers...whether it's fair or not to golfers doesn't matter.  In the end, i can choose to hire someone less qualified because they don't golf...If the guy across the street hires a bunch of highly qualified golfers and runs me out of business because i am less competitive...those are the consequences of my choice.

If you're highly qualified, you're probably in a position to get more slack...If not, you should probably figure out how to maximize your chances in a competitive job market.


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue said:
What is this, a :piss: match???:wtf: Stay on topic. I think OP got his answer by now:facepalm: . . . :peace:



With all due respect, if he got his answer then why is it important to stay on topic?


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Mean or not, i may not like being around golfers...whether it's fair or not to golfers doesn't matter.  In the end, i can choose to hire someone less qualified because they don't golf...If the guy across the street hires a bunch of highly qualified golfers and runs me out of business because i am less competitive...those are the consequences of my choice.




Yes, but so what?  I agree with all this.  Perhaps you overstated your position, but your not defending what I criticized.

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If you're highly qualified, you're probably in a position to get more slack...If not, you should probably figure out how to maximize your chances in a competitive job market.




yep, and its still stupid for an employer to make hiring decision based on prejudices that aren't accurate.  Its also pretty shitty. 

I wonder the business wisdom of those kinds of decisions, but that isn't really my place to question.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: johnm214]
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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: stayhigh89]
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Eat a lot of asparagus as to distract the lab tech.:biggrin: Na but seriously, Flushing and taking b vitamins has worked for me
but I get the feeling it was because the person conducting the test didn't give a shit. These days I go with the quick fix.

On a side note why does every thread boil down to enlil whining like a jew about stupid shit. I've got a feeling if everyone just ignored him, he'd shut the fuck up.
hes like the eric cartman of the shroomery.

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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: johnm214]
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Pro tip: quit for a couple weeks and freeze your own piss so you don't have to ask for someones per and you don't have to pay for the fake shit, which might not work.


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Re: Piss test in 24 hours! [Re: MentalMeltdown]
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MentalMeltdown said:
Bovice said:
I did this once when I was younger. Had a friend piss in a condom and strapped it to my leg. When I was getting out of the car the condom exploded and my friends piss got ALL over me. So personally, 20-30 buck for me is worth it not to risk a condom full of some else's urine exploding and leaking into my shoe. Just personal choice.




I never said anything about a condom. That's just a horrible idea. I use a small plastic bottle with a spout top that is about the size of a travel shampoo. The bottle was from church and originally had "holy" water in it. lol



No, a condom is a great idea. You can easily bring piss to the appropriate temperature by squeezing it around in your hand.  Just do some practice rounds with water. Oh yeah, get the magnums.

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