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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: PDU]
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PDU said:
I have tourettes and have miniture seizures all throughout everyday of my life. They are usually just small flinches, but sometimes they are VERY intense and can even knock me over, just uncontrollable movement of my body (arms flailing, or legs kicking or stomping). However, all symptoms go away while tripping. I just thought id share that, as it may or may not be related.



Err, those are a very different thing from seizures, AFAIK.


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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: Sev]
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I've had seizures from smoking pot, drinking, stress, that light they shine in your eyes at the optomitrist. Obviously drugs can induce seizures, but that doesnt mean they are the cause. IMO(and my doctors) if you have some sort of seizure disorder the physical and psychological stress of drugs can trigger a seizure. I had them fairly frequently when i was a heavy pot smoker (monthly). Now that i rarely smoke pot, i still have seizures, but only about once every year or year and a half. I never had one on shrooms or acid.
Despite all the advance in science and medicine, the brain is still largely a mystery. Neurologists have yet to diagonse my problem even though i've had dozens of tests over the years. I even had a seizure in the ER once in front of a doctor - he immediately sent me for a scan and still nothing abnormal showed up.
I guess my point is, your doctor may tell you to quit shrooms, but i doubt he'll attribute your seizures entirely to shrooming. Shrooms are probably just a catalyst that triggers a deeper issue.

dizz

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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: GanjaManDan]
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heres what i have to say, i ate some lsd not even a whole blotter. while coming down i had uncontrollable spazams in my legs for about an hour or 2. ever sionce that day ihave continually hade these spazams on and off. i went to see a neurologist and he diagonosed me with essential tremmor. what he thinsk happened is that the drug brought out a pre existing condition that i have had my entire life. this may well be the case in your friends case.my doc told me that certain drugs and psychadelics (sp?) can bring out pre-existing conditions. so anyways you should really, or your friend should really see a neuroligst.
peace
zippoz


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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: ZippoZ]
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The first time i did acid something similar happened. It was a very small blotter, and i dont know what it was, but it provided a horrible trip and i also had uncontrollable leg and arm spazzams for a couple hours, Very tiring...and it sucked big time. I dont have seizures aside from tourette's now. (by the way, tourette's IS a seizure disorder)


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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: Pavement]
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How is epilepsy diagnosed?

Physical Examination and Medical History
A diagnosis of epilepsy is often made during an emergency visit for a seizure. If a person seeks medical help for a previous or suspected seizure, the physician will take a complete medical history, including a history of seizure events, from either the patient or the parent.

One interesting study suggested that a physician might be able to identify the location in the brain where the seizure is originating by watching the patient wipe his or her nose. A runny nose is common after a temporal lobe seizure but not after seizures in other locations. Furthermore, the hand with which the patient wipes the nose coincides with the side of the brain in which the seizure occurs.

Ruling Out Serious Causes
Health- or life-threatening causes of seizures should first be ruled out. They include the following:


Alcohol withdrawal.
Infections (encephalitis or meningitis).
Head injuries.
Poisoning.
Drug overdose.
Hypoglycemia.
Stroke. Major and minor stokes are important causes of seizures in older people. Small strokes, called transient ischemic attacks, are often difficult to distinguish from mild epileptic seizures, and, in fact, a first seizure in an adult might be a precursor to stroke.
Cardiac arrest.
Ruling Out Conditions with Similar Symptoms
Syncope. Syncope, a brief lapse of consciousness in which blood flow is reduced to the brain, can mimic epilepsy and is misdiagnosed as epilepsy in many cases. A misdiagnosis of epilepsy in such patients can cause serious problems. Research continues to suggest that taking the patient's history and giving a physical exam rather than administering an assortment of cardiac tests is the most effective way to diagnose syncope.

Migraines. Migraine headaches, particularly migraine with auras, may sometimes be confused with epilepsy. With epileptic seizure, the preceding aura is often seen as multiple, brightly colored, circular spots, while migraine sufferers tend to see black, white, or colorless lined or zigzag flickering patterns. Typically the migraine pain expands gradually over minutes toward one side.

Panic Attacks. One study reported on patients with partial seizures that resembled panic disorder. Symptoms of panic disorder include palpitations, sweating, trembling, sensation of breathlessness, chest pain, feeling of choking, nausea, faintness, chills or flushes, and fear of losing control and fear of dying.

Narcolepsy. Narcolepsy, a sleep disorder that causes a sudden loss of muscle tone and excessive daytime sleepiness, can be confused with epilepsy.

Electroencephalogram
The most important diagnostic tool for epilepsy is an electroencephalogram (EEG), which measures brain waves. Ideally, it should be performed within 24 hours of a seizure. An EEG recording session may last for less than an hour, but in some cases the physician will want a day-long recording. Long-term monitoring may be necessary in some cases when patients do not respond to medications. Portable EEG units are available in some places, which can be used to monitor patients throughout normal activities. Unfortunately, many insurers will not reimburse for long-term monitoring.

EEGs are not foolproof; in one study half of people who had experienced an epileptic seizure showed a normal EEG reading. For example, juvenile myoclonic epilepsy, a syndrome characterized by generalized seizures, may be misdiagnosed on EEG for years as partial seizures.

Imaging Techniques
Computerized Tomography (CT) Scans. The doctor will usually order brain scans using computerized tomography (CT) for most adults and children with a first seizure. This imaging technique is sensitive enough for most purposes. In children, even if the scan is normal, the doctor will follow up to be sure other problems are not present.




Other Advanced Imaging Techniques. More advanced scanning techniques, particularly magnetic resonance spectroscopy (MRS), positron emission tomography (PET), and single-photon emission computer tomography (SPECT), are becoming important tools for epilepsy researchers. They are also useful for detecting abnormalities, such as changes in brain activity, damaged or scarred locations in the brain where partial seizures are triggered, or tumors and other abnormalities that may be causing seizures. Experts now strongly recommend MRIs for children with first seizures in certain cases, such as children under one years old, those with seizures that are associated with any unexplained significant mental or motor problems, and other conditions. These images may help to determine if the disorder is treatable by surgery and may be used as a guide for surgeons.

Polysomnography
Some researchers recommend polysomnography for certain patients. This test is used to detect sleep disorders, such as obstructive sleep apnea, that is associated with epilepsy in some people.

Investigative Diagnostic Approaches
Low brain levels of the neurotransmitter gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) are associated with an increased risk of seizure recurrence. Some researchers suggest that measuring GABA levels, along with EEG recordings, may help in assessing the risk of recurring seizures and in identifying those patients who could benefit from drugs that stimulate GABA function.



*** I found this information on quite a few sites and I hope it's useful or informative. Any time someone has a seizure it should be taken seriously and they should be examined by a neurologist. I hope everything turns out good for your friend and I would encourage him to get see a trained professional as soon as possible.

Peace and best of luck,
-TekNut-

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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: TekNut]
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Actually, that is sooo interesting. My friend, I noticed a few weeks ago, has a habbit of keeping his arm under his nose, as if trying not to smell. I asked him about it and he said its just something he does, I bet you that relates to the siezures. Anyway, my friend is going to mention it to his doctor at his next check up, but he is also, going to take it easy on the shrooms. Aside from that, isn't tripping off homegrown shrooms awesome?


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Re: Siezures During Trip [Re: Pavement]
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Aside from that, isn't tripping off homegrown shrooms awesome?

For that I've just rated you 5 shrooms  :laugh:


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