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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: PsilocybinMike]
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I shared obvious symptoms with aspergers, but have never been tested for it.

One thing is certain, I've changed, and I think I know what it takes.

In this order of experiencing.
1. Cannabis - to show me my mind is fluid.
2. Psilocybe Mushrooms - to show me my mind can be altered.
3. Psilocybe Mushrooms (full ego loss) - to allow me to drastically alter my mind, wipe the slate clean and begin to rebuild the right way.
4. MDMA - to show me the love I posses and use this love to build my new self.

My journey isn't complete, but I've come a hell of a long way.

Gotta be careful with the weed though, as warned by a few posters above. Weed was pretty much used to introduce me to the idea of drugs and drugs affecting thoughts. Weed being fairly safe made it a great starter. Jumping straight into shrooms may be harsh on the mind.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
I have symptoms of aspergers, in the past they were much more prominent. I feel that psychedelics make us more aware. As we become aware corrections can be made


My exact experience as well.  Had symptoms, although moreso hyper empathy than no empathy, reclusiveness, compulsive/obsessive behavior, social awkwardness, and language/speech issues.  Psychedelics have helped me cure those almost entirely.

pyrate999 said:
In this order of experiencing.
1. Cannabis - to show me my mind is fluid.
2. Psilocybe Mushrooms - to show me my mind can be altered.
3. Psilocybe Mushrooms (full ego loss) - to allow me to drastically alter my mind, wipe the slate clean and begin to rebuild the right way.
4. MDMA - to show me the love I posses and use this love to build my new self.



Very much appreciate and agree with this.  Proper setting and mental/physical health are important for these to be achieved effectively and safely.

Edited by Pacmanpth (11/16/11 01:09 PM)

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
A former friend of mine has Asperger's and used psychedelics.

During his two periods of psychedelics use his impulse control severely disrupted and he started to get more and more into delusional thinking and became more odd from the outside world's point of view.

The last psychedelics session he took resulted in him locking himself into his bedroom, completely trashing the place screaming like a caveman at 4 AM, and then collapsing into a psychologically devastated state which lasted more than 12 hours after the psychedelics wore off.

MDMA did much, much good for him. It was Good Medicine for him in the best sense of the word.

Weed was like heroin to him, severe addiction and smoking himself so silly he got severe panic attacks with paranoia.. then when it wore off 45 min later him lighting up again. Weed enhanced his impulsiveness, oddness and self-destructive tendencies.

If you got Asperger's, or know someone who does and has psychedelic interests, I from my limited experiences with an Aspergers sufferer would recommend against weed and psychedelics, but in strong favor of MDMA.



LOL. I'm diagnosed with Aspergers. I can see my friend saying the same thing about me when I was in college.

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: PsilocybinMike]
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PsilocybinMike said:
http://www.hofmann.org/papers/fisher/fisher_4.htm

A guy named Gary Fischer's experiences with treating autistic/schizophrenic children with LSD in the 1960s before it was illegal. Pretty interesting.

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One ten year old severely autistic boy was continued on the program more as a challenge, as he was very resistant to abandoning his psychotic defenses. He was given a series of ten sessions over a period of ten months, with dosages up to 400 micrograms of LSD. Before treatment he was highly encapsulated, repeating a few phrases and displaying repetitive and catatonic posturing. His only contact with people was looking up their sleeves, he seemed to be checking if and how arms were attached. He would not allow himself to be touched and had no interaction whatsoever, other than attacking other children if they approached or touched him. His treatment sessions were characterized by agitation, fear, panic and anxiety. Occasionally he could relax and allow staff to hold him, rub him and gently feed him. He had long periods where he was totally out of contact with his surroundings. During a later session after some two hours of being out of contact, he sat up rather suddenly, his eyes widened with astonishment and he whispered, "I saw God." During later sessions he evidenced a much larger vocabulary and abandoned his echolalia and repetitive speech.

Timmy's first four sessions were almost exclusively devoted to biting, chewing and aggressive oral behavior. We observed this with all patients, evidencing extreme oral rage. In later sessions patients would attempt to eat us and everything in sight to fill the emptiness they felt. In spite of us not witnessing a lot of what we could identify as conflict resolution during the sessions, his behavior underwent a marked change. His physical attacking behavior subsided and he became interested in relating to other boys his age as well as the treatment staff. He wanted physical contact, became playful and enjoyed himself. His parents began taking him home for weekends due to these behavioral changes and they repeatedly told us that they were amazed at his improvement.



I was just re-reading some of these, this shit is really remarkable. Some of these kids were so beyond help to the point some of them were believed to likely be dying soon and this miracle LSD treatment saved some of these kids who had nothing left to lose.

Check this out if you never have. Really good read.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Jamo]
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Holy fucking omg.
Some of the posts in this thread made me like... I don't even know...  I had to make an account to reply right away..
I have aspergers, or so the doctors say, I'm not sure..  I've been questioning everything lately, becoming more and more insane...
The continuous loop of madness I like to call it.
Drugs are my bestfriend.  Any ol' kind..  And  I did acid for the first time, and, well everything finally blew up..  I was doing stuff like dextromethorphan (robocaps), bombs, ampetamines, ect... prior to this, so I knew...  But I never tried acid before, so obviously I did acid.
I never have done it again, I'm completely insane now, to the point where 'mind over matter' is questioned, because physically it started to hurt.  I need help, I'm very stuck.  My story is so complex and long, I just need SOMEONE who will take their time to listen to me who understands and is like me who can possibly help me.
Can someone please reply or message me?
I really need answers.  I wanna be okay.
Please...

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: xdefiance]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:

A former friend of mine has Asperger's and used psychedelics.

During his two periods of psychedelics use his impulse control severely disrupted and he started to get more and more into delusional thinking and became more odd from the outside world's point of view.

The last psychedelics session he took resulted in him locking himself into his bedroom, completely trashing the place screaming like a caveman at 4 AM, and then collapsing into a psychologically devastated state which lasted more than 12 hours after the psychedelics wore off.

MDMA did much, much good for him. It was Good Medicine for him in the best sense of the word.

Weed was like heroin to him, severe addiction and smoking himself so silly he got severe panic attacks with paranoia.. then when it wore off 45 min later him lighting up again. Weed enhanced his impulsiveness, oddness and self-destructive tendencies.

If you got Asperger's, or know someone who does and has psychedelic interests, I from my limited experiences with an Aspergers sufferer would recommend against weed and psychedelics, but in strong favor of MDMA.



LOL. I'm diagnosed with Aspergers. I can see my friend saying the same thing about me when I was in college.


Same here


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: WorldWideWInton]
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All my life I've been an outsider, a hermit, never really belonging anywhere but to my own mind... I have a mild form of aspergers syndrome (never diagnosed) & it has always been hard to get emotionally involved with others, but after DMT I have felt more confident in myself & not only that but actually curious about other people & striking up conversations with complete strangers.

It's like I had this box over my head my whole life & all of a sudden after smoking this substance it was removed & I could really be who I am.

I don't even have anxiety anymore, why should I be scared after seeing the truth? the truth that most people will never see...we create our heaven or hell while we are here on Earth, if you think you are shy, you will be shy. I'm very much against "disorders" I believe if you control your thoughts you can change who you are & how you interact with the external world. I feel bad for people with OCD/social phobia etc etc because i know they are doing it to themselves to an extent.

I'm now on a quest to help & heal others & enlighten their minds aswell as my own. The road is there you just have to go down it & roll with whatever happens.

I have experimented with LSD, shrooms, ketamine, DXM, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, & that's pretty much it. They all helped me find myself in their own ways. I think psychedelics can help anyone with their problems, not including schizophrenics because of obvious reasons.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
A former friend of mine has Asperger's and used psychedelics.


If you got Asperger's, or know someone who does and has psychedelic interests, I from my limited experiences with an Aspergers sufferer would recommend against weed and psychedelics, but in strong favor of MDMA.



Take it from another "Aspie" as I have heard it euphemistically called that I hated MDMA, turned me into a motormouth, made me feel dirty like speed did, and despite not wanting to reach out and talk to strangers (and asking all of them where I could get some weed to calm down) I still fucking did it. I didn't feel "loved up" I was dancing constantly and felt like a twat.

Now, I know someone with aspergers, and smoking weed for him was a bad idea, but he's a paranoid shizophrenic. Cannabis for me is something I'm using as a crutch, that helps me deal with life. Oh, I could deal with life without it, I just prefer how comfortable things are on it. I'm usually just chilled out and more inclined to have a laugh and I turn into an information sponge. Useful when in school.

As for psychedelics, love them. I have partaken in mescaline, salvia and LSA. LSA made me feel the happiest I've ever been, but I suspect I overdosed as I puked on it. Mescaline left me feeling spiritually cleansed, and salvia? Salvia takes me into sideways world.

Cactus helped me re-connect with the spiritual nature of the world around us. Because of this, I am a better individual than what I was, and a lot more secure in myself.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Visionary Tools]
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I just want to let everyone know that I am glad that this is still getting replies after such a long time :thumbup:

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Jamo]
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note: Most instances of the word "it" in this post refer to mescaline and to a somewhat lesser extent, other psychedelics.

As someone who has been diagnosed by assloads of doctors as having asperger's syndrome, and as someone who uses more psychedelics than anyone I know (Except for my uncle the amateur ayahuascero. Never mind, he probably has an account here), I would have to say they are a very, very good thing. Especially mescaline. After I finish tripping on mescaline, I feel like a normal person for the next two weeks, without any form of autism whatsoever. During the trip itself I usually will experience intense empathy for everyone everywhere everywhen (like, levels of empathy that would make Fred Rogers say "For fuck's sake, nobody can care that much!"), but instead of my empathy going back to 5% of what's typical, it stays 100% typical for two weeks. Also seemed to permanently kill my anxiety, and will suppress my unipolar depression for about two weeks. I would wager that the psychedelic experience differs subjectively in autistic people compared to regulars, though the psychedelic experience is of course something that is primarily discussed in subjective terms, making it a bit of a moot point since it differs for everyone. It feels less spiritual for me typically than most trip reports I've read (but then I'm one of those smug atheists you've heard all about), and I think it also typically feels a lot more cinematic to me, like I'm inside a movie or tv show, except I'm not doing anything interesting. On mescaline alone it's got a sci-fi/fantasy vibe to it. If I take adderall, weed, and a  grab bag of nootropics with it, the tv show will always be Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! This is the first genuinely effective treatment for autism I have ever taken. Anecdotally speaking. If you give your little Rainman a pound of powdered peruvian torch flesh and they end up even more autistic, it ain't my fault. You'll be able to tell they're more autistic when they start flying, in case you were wondering.

Full disclosure: In addition to aspergers I have left temporal epilepsy which has left me with a touch of brain damage after dozens of concussions. IQ, memory, and perception are unaffected, but it might hypothetically affect how I trip, I guess. Unfortunately my epilepsy medication is levetiracetam, a drug also used to treat HPPD. It sours every psychedelic you mix it with and will turn the mellowest trip into introspective hell. For this reason I always skip it when I trip and will have a few temazepam instead. My neurologist says that's ok given temazepam's longish half-life and the fact that I've only ever reacted well to it.

Edited by Rabelais (09/18/12 10:47 AM)

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Jamo]
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swim was diagnosed with asperger's, social anxiety, and depression when swim was 15 and  was prescribed 20mg of lexapro for two years. swim fiddled around with weed in highschool but not too much. swim loved alcohol throughout highschool though because it dumbed him down and helped him sleep. But he got way too into alcohol, as he does with everything he enjoys, and started distilling moonshine in his basement at age 17. By the time he made it to his freshman year in college, he had just recently picked up a weed habit, and within two weeks, he started buying half ounces every two days and selling. within a month of his freshman year (no prior drug use other than pot and alcohol) he tried just about every drug other than heroin, crack, and meth. sometime within the first semester he started growing mushrooms in his dorm room, and frequently experimenting with xanax, psilocybin and lsd. Shortly after second semester began, he got in trouble with his parents because the drug use was consuming him. It wasnt anywhere near addiction, but he was soooo interested in drugs, especially mushrooms, that it became noticable. He hates how he has no control over his obsession with things that interest him, and therefore he finds drugs somewhat dangerous. On the otherhand, mdma didnt affect his disorder much, and caused raging depression and delusion for each few days after use. However lsd and psilocybin both made him feel normal for once, and every one of his friends enjoyed him so much. All of the sudden, he was normal, and everyone else that was tripping was wierd. He could take three hits of acid and make so many friends. Weeks after, he could tell that anxiety and depression were relieved greatly. He can agree with the statement that weed was like heroin. Got waaayyy too into it. Its great fun but an eighth a day got him carried away.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: Allyander]
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Quote:
. It wasnt anywhere near addiction, but he was soooo interested in drugs, especially mushrooms, that it became noticable. He hates how he has no control over his obsession with things that interest him, and therefore he finds drugs somewhat dangerous.


I have aspies and once I came to terms with the fact that it is out of my control and accepted not as a "disorder" or "disease" but as a different way my brain works that has helped me excel academically and in many other areas of life.  I see it as an advantage.  I have a photographic memory, used to be picture perfect but due to drug use it has become fuzzy, still comes in handy when taking tests in school its like I am reading the answers out of the pic of the text book I have in my head instead of recalling information other ways. 
Ive also noticed I can think my way out of depression/anxiety.  My mind works in a linear/logical fashion.  Whether what I am thinking is actually logical or not, as long as I can think of a way that it is logical I can convince myself of anything. 
Learn to use the aspies to your advantage.  dont work against it. 
And if anything else, wait a few months, in the DSM V aspergers is not going to be in it...  So your going to be cured in no time.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: WorldWideWInton]
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That was inspirational.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: The Phleg]
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pyrate999 said:
That was inspirational.


You're telling me. As a 19 year old who has had the diagnosis for 7 years, some of these posts are quite empowering. My first shroom trip is coming up on it's one year anniversary and I can honestly say that I have no regrets. It's as if shrooms opened my eyes and allowed my consciousness to expand and recognize the consequences of my actions where I haven't taken much notice before. I always knew that Asperger's was bad, but I honestly never made the connection to the real world. Yes, individuals had trouble in conversing in others, but to what extent? Through my first-hand accounts, I could truly realize the extent of my disability (which I choose not to have labeled on my record.) There's more to the story, but some friends are here to blaze it up so I must get going. I'm just thankful that I am not the only one who feels this "enlightenment" and strives to improve as an individual.

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: shroomburgers]
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I am 23 years old and have strong reasons to believe I'm somewhere on the autistic spectrum, more likely near the asperger zone. I've always been kind of a recluse; always found it difficult to connect with others, but at the same time finding it somehow pointless -I still don't fully know if I really enjoy things from my own personal window, or is it an unconscious way of dealing with my incapacity of getting out of my shell. One thing I know for sure is I've always somehow felt I was different. This sense of self awareness, being somehow in tune with one's own reality has always been there, and I guess it would be one of the most important reasons why I so happily indulged in drug use.

Just to be clear, I never tried too many different drugs. Alcohol was probably the first, with my first beers around age 11, flirting with tequila and whisky for the first time around 13, and a proud collection of empty bottles of every single liquor money could buy in my hometown at 16. It was right before I started emptying a bottle every weekend that I was shown the genetic predisposition to addiction by my father's own drinking problem, his self medication for a bipolar disorder that was misdiagnosed as depression for a long time after he lost his job (he once told me that before he lost his job, he had the longest manic period of his life which lasted a little longer than a year, and getting fired was the big blow that started to take him down to his longest period of depression, which may explain the diagnosis). BUT, alcohol was there, it made the pain go away, it made it easier to talk to people, often making an asshole out of myself, rarely regretting it. Although I almost died of an alcohol poisoning at age 16, I kept drinking. To this day, a single drop of alcohol in my blood urges me to drink more.

Still young, I tried different kinds of chemical stuff, like paint solvent, aerosol sprays that were definitely not made to be inhaled, cough syrups... Never really abused them, although there has been a short period of time where my drink-drug buddy and I enjoyed a few too often doing cold sprays. Mostly it was fun. The few times I drank cough syrup (I actually don't know if we have the same chemical compounds in our cough syrup here, mine was pseudoephedrine I think) I had this extreme focus and urge to write, mainly bullshit stuff. The paint solvent was hardcore stuff though, really fucks you up, a complete loss of senses and awareness, consciousness becomes one big fuzzy ball hanging around, and as you come down you clearly feel the damage it causes. Millions of children living in the street around the world are using this stuff. I've grown in a town where they roam around. It's pretty terrible to see how fucked up they are. Don't do this kind of stupid stuff. I was stupid back then.

Oh yeah, and I had an adventure with salvia for a while. Can't really say if I liked it or not -too weird to be quantified.

And finally -before introducing the hero- I did shrooms once -well, actually philosopher's stones. Now, I know they're supposed to be less visual and more intellectual, but when you take double the recommended dose, the smurfs will appear to you my friend. The hallucinations were not mind blowing, but the experience itself was perception shifting in itself. I really liked doing them. It's been 5 years since, haven't done it again. But I've been meditating on the subject deeply, and I put an enormous amount of faith in them. I'm waiting for the right time to take a second trip with real psilocybin shrooms, and hopefully it will be worth the wait for self growth. As to the reason why I still don't feel completely ready....


WEED !!! Ahhh, that evil, evil, evil beautiful lady. That good old tittie hanging from a hook (I'm not always good with metaphors, you know). Weed has been my drug of choice ever since the first time I got high at 17. I'm not gonna dive in stories, cause there are so many of them. Instead, I'm gonna try and sum my life since I've started smoking it :

-high school : doing it on weekends, sometimes during weeks, sometimes not doing it for longer periods. At the time, I wasn't smoking any potent bud, but still it made everything much more intense. First sparkles of consciousness expansion as I become interested in how the brain jumps from one subject to another at incredible rate.
-first year of college : one important thing that happened is that I moved to a different country to study, so I found myself a bit isolated. That, added to my natural inability to connect and increasing interest in weed made me lose interest in going to classes. Real anti social behavior at the time. First experiences with potent buds. A short but intense binge that becomes my first real glimpse on the limitless possibilities of experiencing the world. Becoming more and more fascinated with my own experience.
-second year of college : that's the year that defined everything. It is during this year that I became a daily and lonely smoker. It was the beginning of living both in heaven and hell. I was in a constant state of looking for the inner beauty of everything, in amazement of the world, with an unquenchable thirst for knowledge about everything but especially the human mind, the cosmos and psychedelics; at the same time I was anxious, experiencing loneliness not as a chosen state but one I'm determined to, feeling losing my grasp on my smoking habit, irresponsible, sometimes paranoid, sometimes even on the verge of losing my sense of reality (I've had a brief conversation with God in which he sent me a sign by making something in my room fall to prove me I was going insane). I've had a few bad trips on weed during the period, all of which would cause a normal human being to quit. But I kept doing it, and I loved the shit out of it, and at the same time my inner voice was begging me to quit, and sometimes it too admitted this shit was awesome... I kept doing it, and the more I did, the more I felt I was in tune with the universe, allowing myself a great intuitive understanding of the big plan, seeing through the bullshit that makes everyday life blurry, out of touch with beauty and harmony. I kept doing it, and as time went by, I've placed myself in orbit, where I can watch everything happening on the planet, and if I want I can zoom in with my super telescope, but my communication gear doesn't seem to work properly.

Okay, to be a little more specific, the MAIN thing it did to me, and made me fall in love with it, is that I gained access to my brain's data storage room like I never did before. I become some kind of film editor in my own brain, toying with an overwhelming amount of memories from all stages of life, making and breaking connections at will, absorbing every information available on every synapse to shape and build every possible story about my own life, or that of life itself. I feel like my unconscious thought processes become somehow conscious.

Today, I'm once again at the cross roads, where I've stood time and time again during these past years. I know absolutely unequivocally well that weed is causing me more harm than I benefit from it. I've made great progress in re-evaluating my social perspective on life (I actually needed to pause active life for a few years to do so), and weed stands today between me and the new life I'd like to step into. I simply cannot stand the idea of going a few days without smoking -mainly because I need to fill all the spare time I have with something else, and one of the big damages weed caused is that it becomes the motivation in itself to do other interesting things, so when you take it out everything else seems a little pointless. So I'm still struggling to break the cycle, get my life going, applying all these great insights weed allowed me to gain for a very expensive price nevertheless. It's far from being easy, but the other way is wasting the rest of my life in this state of passive wondering, and I don't want that.



So... In one sentence? Uh.. In my case, weed changed my life - it made me an omnipotent being devoid of willpower :laugh:

As the preacher said, "I could write shorter speeches but once I start I'm too lazy to stop" (wink wink Lincoln)

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: saynin]
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saynin said:
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Well written and interesting post - one I felt I could relate to (same age; suspicions about autistic tendencies; some of the weed experience, though not as intense; and that desire to step into a new life) - I hope you stick around to contribute more to the forum (though that's probably not conducive to the new life you desire. Anyhoo...).

Particularly intriguing was that bit about the telescopic sight, somewhat at the cost of comms. I think I can relate to that too. It's an effect of disconnecting (to an extent - the 'orbit' part) and 'living in your head', yeah? This passive wondering... I've been trying to escape that state of being too. I actually enjoy it - it's comfortable and interesting - but when it comes to engaging with other people (which we inevitably have to do) it becomes problematic.

I've been addressing it logically, whereby: if my activity and being is concentrated in my head, then I need to take some action to shift it. This action has taken the form of exercise, principally. You weren't exactly asking for advice, but if you're not already doing this (exercising) then I recommend it. It'll help get you out of your head, with this passive wondering, and to become more active and engaged with your body. It should motivate you to get out more and also smoke less week (because you don't want to compromise your fitness goals which you know are ultimately more important). It may also help with the social communication part, if there's any anxiety there at least.

No response for the OP, sorry. I've not had any psychological diagnoses so I won't comment.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: KGB Is Go]
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I have a bit of aspergers myself. I'd like to add that although we can talk out of line at times (causing people to find us annoying and reach out less), all in all I think we have extra ability to speak our minds contrary to the public eye (correct me if I'm wrong), and can hyperfocus, giving us an edge at learning things of interest.

My drug experiences are as follows:

LSD: Increased confidence, energy flow, and all in all tastefulness with my creativity. I've become more paranoid about life due to negative self-judging sometimes thinking that the chemical changes are what causes me to tweak out with anxiety. Probably all in my head, but I'd like to hear if you have a similar experience.

Weed: Temporary increase in creativity/energy flow (great learning tool), either riding a wave of anxiety until I reach relaxation or sedating me, depending on the strain. Also can be demotivational as I'm plateuing, but hey it makes for a good sleep aid.

Mushrooms: Increase in sociability and positive attitude, def. gonna continue this.

DMT: Increase in self awareness, almost from a third person view, caused me to notice strange coincidences having to do with the flow of life itself, definitely calming to have this view. However the idea of blasting off scares the piss out of me so I haven't broken all the way through yet :p

I may have gotten off the topic of aspergers, but just felt like sharing my experiences and wonder if this has anything to do with the condition.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: SMPSNtheserious] * 1
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Having asperger's, I can write down what's on my mind better than the average person of my age and intellect. But good lord, i don't care if it is my best friend or someone i don't know, i cannot get in an arguement or a debate or even talk about something im not interested in without feeling completely out of the conversation and as if the conversation isn't going well. Just a comment on that.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: The Phleg] * 1
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being an Aspie i just HAD to make an account to post a comment, im on here from yesterday's "trip" on LSD. SKIP TO BOTTOM FOR LSD REPORT. wanted to write a short bit, every aspie is different, as every human is unique!

24 Years old.

Substance History:
-Dextroamphetamine/Amphetamine (Adderall) 17 y\o
-Oxycodone/Acetaminophen (Percocet) 18 y\o
-Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen (Vicodin) 19-20 y\o
-ethanol C2H5OH (Liquor/Beer) 20 y\o
-Alprazolam (Xanax) 20 y\o
-THC (Cannabis) 21 y\o
-Diazepam (Valium) 23 y\o
-Lorazepam (Ativan) 23 y\o
-Psilocybin/Psilocin (Mushrooms) 24 y\o
-Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) 24 y\o
Discovered all these substances in this order.


Started smoking Cannabis when i was 21, after a beer binge for a few months (6 pack a day, let to a 12 pack a day...and im 5'6" weigh 125 lbs...) and really having troubles(work\relationships\family) with my "awkwardness" just failing to communicate, and selfish like behaviors....relationships fail before my eyes and id have no idea why, even with someone explaining.


The Cannabis was helping with bits of empathy and other emotions i can't recall experiencing for the first time, it was mostly helping me with appetite and just appreciating some very rudimentary things in life, stuff i should of known by the time i was a kid... like that plants grow because of sunshine, thats a no brainer, but up until that point it was never that important to me...just started to appreciate things a LITTLE more... outdoors became just more pleasant, wasn't so much of a grouch....ect...

at this point i thought THC was THE thing for me, and i felt so relived, instantly quit smoking, and started vaporizing to be health conscious, still use it to this day, very healing plant for many different things!, anyway.

But with cannabis comes tolerance, a ceiling....or the end of some kind of road, albeit a empty sack or the very temporary like effects of THC wear off.



22, Went to a Psychotherapist, told me i was close on the autism spectrum, not exerting enough symptoms to be an Aspie...At the time i still just, FELT different, weather it was aspergers or whatever it didn't matter, just knew i was different, always feeling like id just piss everyone off, no matter my approach to social behavior, over analyzing everyone's emotions without connecting their body language first. The THC had me so one foot out the door at times...it almost made everything worse, all my problems became so clear and apparent, as far as changing them, id need some help.

23, started experimenting (never more than one a day, never mixed together.) With benzo's like xanax, ativan, valium.... i thought these helped so amazingly, but just another fail....just led to small addiction, side effects, withdraw. once again, wears off anyways. Im smart enough to know this isnt the answer.

24, the same person that first hinted me of aspergers when i was 22, handed me 2.5grams of some decent strength mushrooms one day. Made some mushie tea, i became a child for a few hours, rediscovering life like a small child with innocence, emotion, empathy, imagination... quite an experience... def trippy...bought an OZ of mushrooms the next day (28g) of POTENT shrooms, i was hooked on this mystery of an experience in a dream like world... Experimented successfully with different sized doses and experiences. All very positive, learned a lot about myself, and every time i could just tell, I WAS DIFFERENT, couldn't of been more clear, the thought of someone telling me "what i have" made me just laugh, what do they know? what a book told them, but in my heart i knew what was going on, i could feel it... But when i came to being sober... still had my negative traits back....still hard to change...change what tho?..

Few Weeks later...

----------LSD EXPERINCE-----------

A good friend for years, very experienced tripper, gets me a few hits of LSD on white on white blotter paper, just little white squares wrapped in foil....too creepy, ive let TV, movies, the news....all that fear in loathing  shit get to my head...thinking this will be some face melting, visual, kaleidoscope of horror or happiness..... everyone either explains a very positive or negative exp...just like mushrooms too though...and i love those, this chemical is too undeniable for me to try, its molecular structure is too close to Psilocybin/Psilocin for me NOT to try...i knew i had to be in the right mindset to or else id freak(not really, just thought so at the time. at a low dose such as half\one tab, the worse you'll experience is crying, might be good for you anyways)....next day, fuck it. going in. If i was Naive enough to think putting a gun to my head to solve my problems, why not put a gun to what i think is "reality" and shatter it.

took a half tab for safety, dont want a 250ug first trip on accident. my friend told me 1 is fun and 2 is amazing, considering his tolerance, i figured 1 would be enough.


30 mins in, i feel, something, not high, not trippin, but i could tell it was coming, but not strong enough to break threshold. took the other half tab. 30 mins later, i was there.

Normally, when i "trip" taking mushrooms, i feel almost transported to a dream like version of the world i live in now.

So i was expecting that feeling, LSD also being a psychedelic (so is cannabis, but its nothing like shrooms...) the stimulated senses started coming in, i could see better, more depth, hear better, taste better... rather than 'rediscovering' all those things. Even simple math and numbers became more understood (than clouded with shrooms) my brain had felt like it was operating at full capacity, perfectly, not overloaded. Problem solving, and multitasking became easier.

suddenly i realized, i just felt... "normal" that normal ive been trying to compare myself to with everyone else that doesn't have aspergers... instantly become emotional, start realizing all the things im really doing wrong and i FINALLY have an insight on how i can fix it....and during the trip, i have an increased bout of confidence, not OVER confidence that i achieve from alcohol(followed by a million negative other things) I feel like i have the power to change myself, first starts with just apologizing, that in itself was helping so much. later the sadness was replace with rejoice as im so hopeful that i found the perfect thing to help me, i become so curious an ambitious to go outside, see what happens when i come in contact with the one thing i fear all the time, the public. The thought of me coming down off this, perplexed me.... i didn't feel high or trippin....just like, i was normal, but that in itself to me....was quite the trip, i was finally able to enjoy myself while around others in a public place....

i quickly ordered some food, walked across the st, anxiously wondering how my new found social abilities will work out... knowing my pupils are blasted wide open, normally im so paranoid about my eyes even being red or someone knowing that im high...this does not bother me one bit, in fact my eye contact is off the charts, and i don't even give a damn what anyone thinks...about my eyes, or what i took. All i know is that i was able to keep my head up, speak for myself, stand up for myself, not let others opinions take to my heart.

later i ate, watched some movies and relaxed with my girlfriend the rest of the night, nothing trippy or twitchy, was able to just relax and be myself, was amazing, fell asleep just fine, woke up feeling great, now typing this.

I really hope this can help at least just ONE person.....sorry for the long post, but if you're anything like me, itl intrigue you... you'll read the whole thing, then wonder,

Is LSD right for me?....

Yes, get in the mindset of wanting to help yourself, not cause you're bored, and take a light dose, whats the worse that could happen? not feel anything?...

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Re: Psychedelic drugs and Asperger's Autism [Re: 4mati0n]
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Wonderful post! :thumbup:

Welcome to the shroomery! :stoned:


Keep on spinning, man.


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